Iran

Iran wants nuclear weapons for obvious reasons. To deny that is pretty silly. We can have a debate about how close they were or not, whether the timing necessitated our immediate involvement. That's beside the point though, I'll come back to that later.

Iran struck deals with prior admins that benefited Iran and allowed them to have it both ways. They could continue their on and off proxy wars with Israel with impunity as they could just play it off on the proxy and avoid sanctions while they destabilized the region.

To ignore this is a huge flaw in the guys calculus above. It's been a problem a long time coming. So much so that it's been on the radar and to do lists of the past three or four presidential candidates. Remember Kamala told us she would seek conflict with Iran too. No matter who the president was this was coming.

Let's not pretend this is a partisan issue.
 
True. We've won 12, 13 times already if we are to believe Trump. Hell, our first win only took a few hours. This 2 week ceasefire that isn't a ceasefire and has lasted over a month is like the encore win. Trump was right. So much winning that people are getting sick of it.
I’m still amazed by all the winning
 
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True. We've won 12, 13 times already if we are to believe Trump. Hell, our first win only took a few hours. This 2 week ceasefire that isn't a ceasefire and has lasted over a month is like the encore win. Trump was right. So much winning that people are getting sick of it.
Theres literally people on this very board who declared successful mission and a regime change within 12 hours of the first strike. Truly incredible
 
True. We've won 12, 13 times already if we are to believe Trump. Hell, our first win only took a few hours. This 2 week ceasefire that isn't a ceasefire and has lasted over a month is like the encore win. Trump was right. So much winning that people are getting sick of it.
Wait did we win again!?!? 😍
 
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Not start stupid wars that aren't winnable


But it's going to take some of yall several months to get this. Even though this is supposed to be wrapped all ready according to the admin when this first started. Why do they get grace on their crappy bs? No need to answer. Water carriers untied and all. This will either drag out far longer then the Admin said it would, zero criticism on that from his supporters, or we will capitulate. And by that it I mean some agreement that's very similar to what they already agreed to. This is a monumental screw up
When Trump and his goon posse finally arrive at an agreement with Iran that mirrors the JCPOA, we'll obviously be in MUCH better shape than when we had the JCPOA.
 
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When Trump and his goon posse finally arrive at an agreement with Iran that mirrors the JCPOA, we'll obviously be in MUCH better shape than when we had the JCPOA.
For what it's worth I believe it will be similar but there will be one significant but important change. Iran no longer can operate with impunity via proxies to wage war with Israel while "adhering" to any agreement or framework.

That's been effectively taken from them, or at worst severely weakened.
 
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I don't know how that place is set up, but that might still lead to spilling into the Gulf, but I'm not sure. Maybe blow it up inland if you have to.
They could target their main pumps that transfer everything. All tank farms have a set of pumps setup for transfer only due to flow/ pressure differences in the process.
 
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The bombs had been falling for just six days when President Donald Trump spelled out his demands for ending the war in Iran.

There will be no peace deal, he said, without Iran’s “unconditional surrender.”


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