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rikberry31 said:
🐂 💩. The want the bomb to eliminate Israel first and Western culture second, it's their religion for goodness sake. If all they wanted was for us to leave them alone they could have stopped messing with our shite. The U.S., namely Jimmy Carter allowed the mullahs to take power. From day one they answered by asking for it.
When they took our people hostages we should have put boots on the ground immediately and taken care of it then. Carter coddled them and let it fester until it became a huge problem.
Back then Trump said we should go get our people out. And now some are saying I didn't vote for this. They should have done their homework, there is only forty years of him saying we need to take care of Iran.
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you know there is a muslim nation next door to Iran with nukes right?
and we have been basing nukes in Turkey for a while. and its been alleged in Saudi Arabia.
its not their religion that is the problem. its our meddling.

we started messing with them long before they started blowing up our, or Israel's, crap. it doesn't matter who we put in charge, if we keep effing with them, they are going to want a nuke.

if they were really 100% against our existence you would think much more, or even some, of the terrorist activities would have been dedicated to attacking us.
 
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n_huffhines said:
OK, so this guy died 33 years ago. I'm not that worried about what he used to say.

The context of that speech, his use of "infidels," was referring to people opposing the establishment of their Islamic state within their own country. In no way was he saying he wants to kill Americans for being Christian. Leave them alone and we won't have problems.



America is a regime to them. It's not death to Americans, it's death to the regime that has been ****ing with us for 70 years.

And he might be right that it will happen. Our ambitions in the Middle East might prove to be our demise. It's certainly headed that way. Our government is indisputably in a financial crisis and we're going to war over BS.
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More 🐂 💩. Throughout history the muslims have made a habit of invading other countries and killing anyone who wouldn't convert (infidels).
Show me where and when they have lived peaceably if left to themselves. The only time that happens is when the get their azzes kicked or the are held down.
And a again with the "they don't really mean it, it's just rhetoric" 💩🐂. They have more than proven they mean it. The only time won't try is when they don't have the means to carry it out.
 
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Smokey123 said:
So they’re not doing the same? Sounds like you need to make up your mind

They never had the ability, they didn’t have a nuclear weapons program and their facilities were obliterated last summer so what exactly are we doing?
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The didn't quite have the capability to hit the U.S. in a major way, just terrorism which we still should not tolerate. They did have the capability to do major harm to their neighbors and Israel. And they were working overtime to gain the capability to do the same to the U.S.
 
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rikberry31 said:
The didn't quite have the capability to hit the U.S. in a major way, just terrorism which we still should not tolerate. They did have the capability to do major harm to their neighbors and Israel. And they were working overtime to gain the capability to do the same to the U.S.
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They weren’t in realm of possibility to hit the US


They had the capability to do major harm but didnt the past? I thought you just said they would if they could
 
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LouderVol said:
you know there is a muslim nation next door to Iran with nukes right?
and we have been basing nukes in Turkey for a while. and its been alleged in Saudi Arabia.
its not their religion that is the problem. its our meddling.

we started messing with them long before they started blowing up our, or Israel's, crap. it doesn't matter who we put in charge, if we keep effing with them, they are going to want a nuke.

if they were really 100% against our existence you would think much more, or even some, of the terrorist activities would have been dedicated to attacking us.
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Neither Pakistan or Turkey is run by homicidal suicidal lunatics. Neither has stated as one of their main goals to erase our country.
Some of their terrorist activities directed at the U.S.?

1979–1981 Tehran Hostage Crisis

1983 Beirut Attacks (Lebanon)

1983 Suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 63 people

1983 Hezbollah drove truck bombs into the U.S. Marine barracks at Beirut International Airport, killing 241 U.S. service member

1983 Further bombings, including the U.S. Embassy annex (killing 2 Americans) and kidnappings/murders, such as CIA station chief William Buckley (tortured and killed by Hezbollah in 1985

1996 Khobar Towers Bombing A truck bomb at a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Dhahran killed 19 American airmen and wounded nearly 500. U.S. investigations (FBI and federal courts) found direct involvement by Iran's IRGC

In the 2010s–2020s, Iran-backed groups conducted rocket, drone, and militia attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria

2023 Iranian drone strike near Hasakah, Syria, killing one U.S. contractor and wounding troops.

January 2024 Kataib Hezbollah drone attack on Tower 22 base in Jordan, killing three U.S. soldiers and injuring over 40

2025-2026 Iran and its proxies have launched retaliatory missile and drone attacks on U.S. bases and interests across the Middle East
 
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Smokey123 said:
They weren’t in realm of possibility to hit the US


They had the capability to do major harm but didnt the past? I thought you just said they would if they could
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They will do whatever their capabilities will allow. Until recently the did not have the capability hit the U.S. in a major way other than terrorism. (they did have a hand in 9/11 though)
But give them nukes and long range ballistic missiles and the game changes. We have changed it back.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Neither Pakistan or Turkey is run by homicidal suicidal lunatics. Neither has stated as one of their main goals to erase our country.
Some of their terrorist activities directed at the U.S.?

1979–1981 Tehran Hostage Crisis

1983 Beirut Attacks (Lebanon)

1983 Suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 63 people

1983 Hezbollah drove truck bombs into the U.S. Marine barracks at Beirut International Airport, killing 241 U.S. service member

1983 Further bombings, including the U.S. Embassy annex (killing 2 Americans) and kidnappings/murders, such as CIA station chief William Buckley (tortured and killed by Hezbollah in 1985

1996 Khobar Towers Bombing A truck bomb at a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Dhahran killed 19 American airmen and wounded nearly 500. U.S. investigations (FBI and federal courts) found direct involvement by Iran's IRGC

In the 2010s–2020s, Iran-backed groups conducted rocket, drone, and militia attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria

2023 Iranian drone strike near Hasakah, Syria, killing one U.S. contractor and wounding troops.

January 2024 Kataib Hezbollah drone attack on Tower 22 base in Jordan, killing three U.S. soldiers and injuring over 40

2025-2026 Iran and its proxies have launched retaliatory missile and drone attacks on U.S. bases and interests across the Middle East
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You said it was their religion that was the problem. now its just the people in charge? you need to make up your mind.

none of those attacks happened in the US, so thanks for proving its our meddling that is the issue.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Neither Pakistan or Turkey is run by homicidal suicidal lunatics. Neither has stated as one of their main goals to erase our country.
Some of their terrorist activities directed at the U.S.?

1979–1981 Tehran Hostage Crisis

1983 Beirut Attacks (Lebanon)

1983 Suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 63 people

1983 Hezbollah drove truck bombs into the U.S. Marine barracks at Beirut International Airport, killing 241 U.S. service member

1983 Further bombings, including the U.S. Embassy annex (killing 2 Americans) and kidnappings/murders, such as CIA station chief William Buckley (tortured and killed by Hezbollah in 1985

1996 Khobar Towers Bombing A truck bomb at a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Dhahran killed 19 American airmen and wounded nearly 500. U.S. investigations (FBI and federal courts) found direct involvement by Iran's IRGC

In the 2010s–2020s, Iran-backed groups conducted rocket, drone, and militia attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria

2023 Iranian drone strike near Hasakah, Syria, killing one U.S. contractor and wounding troops.

January 2024 Kataib Hezbollah drone attack on Tower 22 base in Jordan, killing three U.S. soldiers and injuring over 40

2025-2026 Iran and its proxies have launched retaliatory missile and drone attacks on U.S. bases and interests across the Middle East
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“You have no proof these happened..”
 
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rikberry31 said:
They will do whatever their capabilities will allow. Until recently the did not have the capability hit the U.S. in a major way other than terrorism. (they did have a hand in 9/11 though)
But give them nukes and long range ballistic missiles and the game changes. We have changed it back.
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So why did they not try to do major harm to surrounding countries before this conflict? You said if they would if they could yet they didn’t and you said they had the capability to. You think hitting empty fields in Israel was major harm? Or their couple volleys over US bases that were easily intercepted? You’re contradicting yourself
 
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Smokey123 said:
So why did they not try to do major harm to surrounding countries before this conflict? You said if they would if they could yet they didn’t and you said they had the capability to. You think hitting empty fields in Israel was major harm? Or their couple volleys over US bases that were easily intercepted? You’re contradicting yourself
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Sooo, they have not been attacking Israel pretty much non stop for forty years? Oct. 7th didn't happen?
 
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LouderVol said:
You said it was their religion that was the problem. now its just the people in charge? you need to make up your mind.

none of those attacks happened in the US, so thanks for proving its our meddling that is the issue.
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I said radical islam was the problem and that is the religion of the people in charge of Iran.
 
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rikberry31 said:
? When did I say that? Saudi Arabia's government is not a lunatic theocracy it is a monarchy. Iran's threat non-existent....
It is now.
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I’m using your logic. Who committed 9/11 again? Ik you pull things out of your ass but it’s not hard to follow along. You switch lanes more than a drunk driver
 
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Smokey123 said:
I’m using your logic. Who committed 9/11 again? Ik you pull things out of your ass but it’s not hard to follow along. You switch lanes more than a drunk driver
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Iran definitely provided training in Iran for Al-Qaeda and half the hi-jackers traveled from Pakistan through Iran to the U.S.
Al-Qaeda is headquartered in Tehran now.
 
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Smokey123 said:
I’m using your logic. Who committed 9/11 again? Ik you pull things out of your ass but it’s not hard to follow along. You switch lanes more than a drunk driver
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9/11 was planned and executed from Afghanistan not Saudi Arabia. There were Saudis involved but The Kingdom was not behind the attacks.
Osama was born a Saudi but he had his citizenship revoked because he was a threat to The Kingdom.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Oh ya that’s right you’re the one that said “Iran did 9/11”🤣
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I never they did it, I said they had a hand in it. Show me where I said Iran was soley responsible for 9/11. Saudi Arabia was less involved than them and you thought they did it. Many of the hi-jackers were of Saudi decent as was Osama. He was an enemy of Saudi Arabia. One of the things he was really pissed about was the Saudis letting the U.S. use their air bases.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Iran definitely provided training in Iran for Al-Qaeda and half the hi-jackers traveled from Pakistan through Iran to the U.S.
Al-Qaeda is headquartered in Tehran now.
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9-11 commission disagrees with all of that except that some of the highjackers traveled through Iran. They were not trained, Iran had no operational knowledge, or any role in planning 9-11.

They don't have a HQ


Their leader Saif al‑Adel has been hiding in Iran for many years with government approval

AQ and Iran don't have similar ideologies
 
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rikberry31 said:
I never they did it, I said they had a hand in it. Show me where I said Iran was soley responsible for 9/11. Saudi Arabia was less involved than them and you thought they did it. Many of the hi-jackers were of Saudi decent as was Osama. He was an enemy of Saudi Arabia. One of the things he was really pissed about was the Saudis letting the U.S. use their air bases.
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You should really research the topic you discuss on here more. It’d save you looking like an idiot

Saudi was sending money to multiple aq linked charities. There was multiple sa op’s in the US that helped the hijackers settle in here. Plenty more. But sure Iran has direct involvement lol
 
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