Iran

[MontyPython]

Can one person explain to me how this "surprised" this administration. It's the only big move they have and you went for regime change. Of course it's what they did

Trump's crack cabinet members...

*** TOP SECRET ***

IRAN WAR PLAN

Step 1: BOMB THEM.

Step 2: Hey who ate my fritos?

 

[KB5252]

I wonder when the last time was that Donald Trump pumped gas into a car... or went to a grocery store... or did anything we peons do in real life.

The billionaire manchild is so disconnected from reality that I suppose we shouldn't be surprised by a damn thing he does or says.

You just described the vast majority of our elected officials to be honest.

But yeah, in Trump's case it's especially valid, this is almost assuredly the case in every facet of his life, he's got someone to do that menial chore for him.

 

[NashVol11]

I recommend TousiTV on youtube..seen alot of realtime video in Tehran and looks like the people are rising up.

Within just a few seconds that site seems incredibly biased and pro-war

 

[DuckInAPen]

Heresy means something in opposition to the Nicene Creed.

This is a problematic definition of heresy. Several heretics (such as Marcion, Basilides, and Paul of Samosata) were anathematized before the articulation of the Creed at Nicea and Constantinople. Other heretics (such as Nestorius, Eutyches, and Sergius) formally subscribed to the Creed.

Be that as it may, Dispensationalism offends against at least two articles of the Creed: "whose kingdom shall have no end" and "in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church" (and, one could argue, "in accordance with the scriptures").

Interpretation of end times prophecy is a topic which has led to a multitude of different theories. You can say you think dispensationslism is incorrect; fine, don’t believe it. But don’t call it a heresy.

I will call it heresy. It's a perversion of the Church's sacred deposit that -- as it pertains to the topic of this thread -- has fueled a zeal not according to knowledge for American adventurism in the Middle East and has encouraged the violation of what we know to be Christ's will -- His commandments -- in pursuit of the supposed realization of His will through the precipitation of the fulfillment of the prophetic oracles (interpreted in accordance not with the Spirit that gives life, but with the letter that kills -- in the Middle East quite literally).

FWIW, even if several tenants of dispensationalism are fairly recent; the view that history will end with a period of strife and tribulation leading to the return of Christ has been held by a very large number of Christians since the earliest days of the Church and is a very logical reading of scripture

Crucial distinctions are 1) that the tribulation foretold by Christ precedes rather than precipitates His coming, the hour of which is subject only to the will of the Godhead, and 2) that Christians are to prepare for His coming by fidelity to His commandments, not by striving (militarily or otherwise) after the establishment of an earthly kingdom (of unbelievers at that!).

 

[sonofUT62]

I wonder when the last time was that Donald Trump pumped gas into a car... or went to a grocery store... or did anything we peons do in real life.

The billionaire manchild is so disconnected from reality that I suppose we shouldn't be surprised by a damn thing he does or says.

Apparently the granddaughter is just as bad. Took the Detail to a boutique food store for her Vlog this week. My hippie/ anti war niece is about to have a stroke.

 

[rekinhavoc]

The 3 Big Lies About the Iran War

Debunking common myths about the Iran War and its impact on the US and global stability.

townhall.com

Even worse, many of them know they're wrong. Critics across the political spectrum — from Democrats to elements of the so-called horseshoe Right — are pushing narratives that paint the conflict as a disaster in the making. The goal is simple: Undermine public confidence and turn what is shaping up as a strategic success into a perceived failure.

Three particular claims are circulating widely. All three deserve to be addressed.

Lie No. 1: The war is a quagmire.

The first claim is that the United States has stumbled into another interminable Middle East war — one destined to drag on for years and possibly escalate to catastrophic levels.

This is absurd.

At the time of this writing, the conflict is less than two weeks old. Twelve days. That's not 12 years, as in Vietnam, or even 12 months, as in the Spanish-American War.

Wars unfold over time, and no one should pretend to know exactly how long any conflict will last. But the notion that the United States is already trapped in a generational quagmire — after less than two weeks of fighting — is less analysis than panic.

Lie No. 2: Iran is somehow winning.

A second claim insists that Iran is holding strong — that the regime is weathering the assault and even gaining the upper hand.

Again, reality tells a different story.

Iran's military capabilities have been battered. Its missile and drone infrastructure has been heavily targeted. Its naval assets have reportedly suffered severe losses. Leadership turmoil inside the regime only compounds the problem.
Reports suggest that the death of longtime Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has triggered a chaotic succession struggle. Even his presumed heir, Mojtaba Khamenei, appears to lack both political support and personal legitimacy within the system.

In other words, the Iranian regime is not projecting strength. It is scrambling to maintain control.

Lie No. 3: The oil shock will break the United States.

The final warning is economic: Iran, critics say, will simply shut down the Strait of Hormuz, sending global oil prices skyrocketing and bringing the American economy to its knees.

For a brief moment earlier this week, markets reacted to that fear. Oil prices jumped sharply amid speculation that the strait could be disrupted.

But the panic faded almost as quickly as it began. Within days, crude prices had fallen back below $90 a barrel.

Markets, unlike pundits, respond to reality. And the reality is that Iran faces enormous consequences if it attempts to choke off one of the world's most vital shipping lanes.

President Donald Trump has made that point unmistakably clear. In a statement posted online, he warned that any Iranian attempt to block the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz would trigger an overwhelming American response.

The message was aimed not only at Tehran but also at Beijing and other major energy consumers: The United States intends to keep global energy flowing — and anyone who interferes will pay a heavy price.
There are legitimate questions to ask about any military action. Democracies require scrutiny, debate and skepticism.

But skepticism should not be confused with hysteria.

Right now, critics are spinning worst-case scenarios while ignoring the basic facts on the ground: Iran's military is under severe pressure, its leadership structure is unstable, and the economic fallout that many predicted has yet to materialize.

None of this guarantees the conflict will end quickly or cleanly. War rarely works that way.

But it does suggest that the narrative of inevitable American failure — so loudly promoted by the administration's opponents — is far removed from the reality unfolding in the Middle East.

And that reality matters far more than the talking points.

 

[Majors]

Correct. I'm cheering against pointless American deaths.

Tell me more. Do you only care about American troops or does pointless American deaths fall under deaths by illegals too? When does the cheering stop and you go silent?

I get that this is the Iran topic, the choice of words of American deaths opens it up to all.

 

[MontyPython]

Tell me more. Do you only care about American troops or does pointless American deaths fall under deaths by illegals too? When does the cheering stop and you go silent?

I get that this is the Iran topic, the choice of words of American deaths opens it up to all.

Odd question... this thread is about the war v. Iran. Immigration thread is right over yonder, Pancho.

 

[zeppelin128]

Meanwhile, on reddit:

 

[Majors]

Odd question... this thread is about the war v. Iran. Immigration thread is right over yonder, Pancho.

I addressed that it’s the Iran thread, your choice of words of pointless American deaths was the question not the thread topic. Chalk your post up to bad wordsmithing since you deflected.

 

[MontyPython]

I addressed that it’s the Iran thread, your choice of words of pointless American deaths was the question not the thread topic. Chalk your post up to bad wordsmithing since you deflected.

No worries. Once you get your wordsmithing all squared away, I'd be happy to debate the Iranian war situation.

 

[Majors]

No worries. Once you get your wordsmithing all squared away, I'd be happy to debate the Iranian war situation.

What’s to debate? I asked you about pointless American deaths, not Iran. You deflected, no debate.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Four more service personnel deaths in the Iran War. A KC-135 has crashed in Iraq after a midair collision with another aircraft which landed safely. I hope it was not from the McGhee Tyson ANG.

4 US service members killed in refueling aircraft crash in Iraq

A U.S. KC-135 refueling aircraft crashed in western Iraq, killing four of six crew members aboard. Officials say the loss was not due to hostile or friendly fire.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Ashevolle]

No the point is they all spend ignorantly, Biden spent on transgender studies, flooding us with illegals and giving them assistance etc, Trump is spending wildly on defense. Which one has the greater possibility of helping the country?

Again, you played yourself. Sorry this happened to you.

Neither has any chance of helping us and if you think otherwise you're a rube.

 

[EasternVol]

Tell me more. Do you only care about American troops or does pointless American deaths fall under deaths by illegals too? When does the cheering stop and you go silent?

I get that this is the Iran topic, the choice of words of American deaths opens it up to all.

We have more to worry about in that respect from American citizens that from illegal immigrants. You must have a problem where you need to create imaginary threats to stoke your fears.

 

[Vol737]

Four more service personnel deaths in the Iran War. A KC-135 has crashed in Iraq after a midair collision with another aircraft which landed safely. I hope it was from the McGhee Tyson ANG.

4 US service members killed in refueling aircraft crash in Iraq

A U.S. KC-135 refueling aircraft crashed in western Iraq, killing four of six crew members aboard. Officials say the loss was not due to hostile or friendly fire.

www.foxnews.com

I read last night it was not members from the ANG Refueling Wing at McGhee Tyson.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I read last night it was not members from the ANG Refueling Wing at McGhee Tyson.

Thanks for that info and for making me reread my post and correct a horrible typo.

 

[Vol737]

Thanks for that info and for making me reread my post and correct a horrible typo.

I knew what you meant. KC 135 was from Beale AFB in California btw.

 

[Ashevolle]

The 3 Big Lies About the Iran War

Debunking common myths about the Iran War and its impact on the US and global stability.

townhall.com

Even worse, many of them know they're wrong. Critics across the political spectrum — from Democrats to elements of the so-called horseshoe Right — are pushing narratives that paint the conflict as a disaster in the making. The goal is simple: Undermine public confidence and turn what is shaping up as a strategic success into a perceived failure.

Three particular claims are circulating widely. All three deserve to be addressed.

Lie No. 1: The war is a quagmire.

The first claim is that the United States has stumbled into another interminable Middle East war — one destined to drag on for years and possibly escalate to catastrophic levels.

This is absurd.

At the time of this writing, the conflict is less than two weeks old. Twelve days. That's not 12 years, as in Vietnam, or even 12 months, as in the Spanish-American War.

Wars unfold over time, and no one should pretend to know exactly how long any conflict will last. But the notion that the United States is already trapped in a generational quagmire — after less than two weeks of fighting — is less analysis than panic.

Lie No. 2: Iran is somehow winning.

A second claim insists that Iran is holding strong — that the regime is weathering the assault and even gaining the upper hand.

Again, reality tells a different story.

Iran's military capabilities have been battered. Its missile and drone infrastructure has been heavily targeted. Its naval assets have reportedly suffered severe losses. Leadership turmoil inside the regime only compounds the problem.
Reports suggest that the death of longtime Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has triggered a chaotic succession struggle. Even his presumed heir, Mojtaba Khamenei, appears to lack both political support and personal legitimacy within the system.

In other words, the Iranian regime is not projecting strength. It is scrambling to maintain control.

Lie No. 3: The oil shock will break the United States.

The final warning is economic: Iran, critics say, will simply shut down the Strait of Hormuz, sending global oil prices skyrocketing and bringing the American economy to its knees.

For a brief moment earlier this week, markets reacted to that fear. Oil prices jumped sharply amid speculation that the strait could be disrupted.

But the panic faded almost as quickly as it began. Within days, crude prices had fallen back below $90 a barrel.

Markets, unlike pundits, respond to reality. And the reality is that Iran faces enormous consequences if it attempts to choke off one of the world's most vital shipping lanes.

President Donald Trump has made that point unmistakably clear. In a statement posted online, he warned that any Iranian attempt to block the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz would trigger an overwhelming American response.

The message was aimed not only at Tehran but also at Beijing and other major energy consumers: The United States intends to keep global energy flowing — and anyone who interferes will pay a heavy price.
There are legitimate questions to ask about any military action. Democracies require scrutiny, debate and skepticism.

But skepticism should not be confused with hysteria.

Right now, critics are spinning worst-case scenarios while ignoring the basic facts on the ground: Iran's military is under severe pressure, its leadership structure is unstable, and the economic fallout that many predicted has yet to materialize.

None of this guarantees the conflict will end quickly or cleanly. War rarely works that way.

But it does suggest that the narrative of inevitable American failure — so loudly promoted by the administration's opponents — is far removed from the reality unfolding in the Middle East.

And that reality matters far more than the talking points.

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/us-intelligence-says-iran-government-is-not-risk-collapse-say-sources-2026-03-11/

Iran absolutely will attempt to close the Strait. Then we'll see the true reaction of the oil markets unfold over the coming months.

Any optimism at this point is just as foolish as the doomerism you're lamenting.

 

[theFallGuy]

TIFWIW

'Comatose' Mojtaba Khamenei 'is UNAWARE there is a war on and has no idea he is supreme leader' 'Comatose' Mojtaba Khamenei 'is UNAWARE there is a war' via US Home | Daily Mail Online

 

[Vol8188]

TIFWIW

'Comatose' Mojtaba Khamenei 'is UNAWARE there is a war on and has no idea he is supreme leader' 'Comatose' Mojtaba Khamenei 'is UNAWARE there is a war' via US Home | Daily Mail Online

That’s what I’ve seen too. Claims he’s in a coma and lost a leg. But Monty thinks he will reign for decades

 

[BreatheUT]

Openly catering to Putin while at the same time disrespecting Zelensky in front of world leaders

Promoting that Peace board or whatever the F it is and inviting Putin first

Standing in front of the world and dismissing the Intel that Putin is giving Iran targeting info on the US

Adopting Putin's plan for a cease fire with Ukraine

Dismissing in front of the whole world the intel that Putin was going after CIA operatives

Just a tip of a long list of documented events

So are you suggesting words are now foreign policy strategy and an actual "event"?

As far as disrespecting Zelensky. Interesting that is your viewpoint on it. It says more about you. First, Zelensky goes meet with the democrats where they give him his talking points. Then he comes to a meeting with Trump barrel chested, dressed like he is working in the yard and with demands. I too would've been like, "hole up hole up lil fella." He wasn't talking to a feckless punk like Jean Kerry or Clueless Joe.

What you just documented were mostly talking points, not strategies. As far as ceasefire talks I'd have to see what the concessions were on both sides. You could be right.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Can one person explain to me how this "surprised" this administration. It's the only big move they have and you went for regime change. Of course it's what they did

Because you have tv personalities running the country try right now who actually believe the fake BS the spew to the magatards. Probably because they lie so much they've actually started believing it. Or they are just that dumb. Or both.

 

[FLVOL_79]

That’s what I’ve seen too. Claims he’s in a coma and lost a leg. But Monty thinks he will reign for decades

I saw videos online. Dudes as awake as AI generated cardboard can be.