Iran

[hndog609]

And how was that not handled with last year's strike? There has been no evidence presented that they have started the program back up. It's not even mentioned as a reason we're bombing them now

I was just addressing what Dad's comment was regarding the article in question. I wasn't trying to elaborate beyond that point. The only thing I think would stand even now is we pretty much KNOW Iran had been enriching uranium beyond any reasonably vettable justification besides weapons. If specifically tying it to right here/right now that seems much lighter in evidentiary dept.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Unlike Epstein is a Mossad asset, there isn't a ton of support for this, but Israel has had pretty close relationships with every POTUS for a while, and the theory is based on the fact that JFK was a hardass with them in some ways. I don't find it convincing, or the evidence interesting. But it's possible.

I heard John Kiriakou mention this on a podcast recently. I forget the context exactly, but there was some association that he made. I think it’s a long shot, I’m more in the it was Dulles and a few others side of the conspiracy.

I do believe it is very real that Epstein was a Mossad agent.

 

[CobbVol]

Because it directly contradicts what he just said was the reason! He realized he said it out loud and tried to backtrack

Friday night they claimed a peace deal was within our reach and both sides would continue. Saturday morning we're blowing stuff up after Israel Leroy Jenkins'd it and kicked things off. In what world did the actions of Israel not force our action?

So not only are you a board monitor you are psychic as well with Rubio's thoughts.

It is very simple. The meeting of the leadership was the initial strike on Saturday. It could not be passed up. Decision made to move forward with the initial attack being Israel to hit the leadership and the US target military related sites.

 

[appvol]

 

[EasternVol]

“We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties,” Rubio told reporters in Washington, D.C.

The above statement was in regards to the initial strike which was taking out their leadership. That is the attack that would precipitate an attack on American forces. The CIA provided the intel of the meeting.

After a reporter asked Rubio to clarify whether the United States was forced to strike because of Israel’s plans, the secretary said no.

Do you see a contradiction there?

 

[utvolpj]

So not only are you a board monitor you are psychic as well with Rubio's thoughts.

It is very simple. The meeting of the leadership was the initial strike on Saturday. It could not be passed up. Decision made to move forward with the initial attack being Israel to hit the leadership and the US target military related sites.

Except it could absolutely be passed up and executing it put US personnel at risk. Friday night the negotiations were still meeting had and Israel decided to blow stuff up. Israel's actions forced the US to join. Rubio clearly says why that is so

 

[OrangeTsar]

This is how Rome over-extended itself and lost its empire.

No, it was when they lost control of their borders (kind of sounds familiar) and couldn’t stop immigration and invasion from Germanic and Gothic tribes; nice try though.

Except for the addition of Britain under Claudius in the first century; Rome pretty well didn’t extend its territory much after Julius Caesar conquered Gaul around 50 BC. Augustus introduced a policy of no further expansion. Rome didn‘t „lose“ it‘s empire for over 400 more years.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Then they gave all of those people citizenship rights and welfare and eroded their culture to the point collapse.

So that's a great comparison.

You sir, totally get it

 

[CobbVol]

Do you see a contradiction there?

Do you agree that the initial attack was to the Iranian leadership who held a joint meeting of more than 40 leaders discovered by intel of it occurring?

 

[EasternVol]

Nope, not much in the way of spine. Would you be willing to settle for spurs?

I guess that's the best we could hope for, spurs and some self congratulatory gibberish.

 

[purp]

Probably the best breakdown I've seen of what's going on right now. This isn't a war between nations but a spiritual battle between Good and Evil. And unfortunately our government is on the side of the evil Epstein pedophile cult.

This sounds like you’re implying the current Iranian regime are the good guys?

 

[85SugarVol]

Google's AI knows better than you and me and all I'm doing is regurgitating what it said. Argue against the AI.

You should stop listening to AI

It has already lied to you at least once (e.g., Ford having Aegis combat suite).
You have further misinterpreted it multiple times.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Do you see a contradiction there?

Not necessarily. There was always the option to not join in and suffer whatever consequences were to be suffered as mentioned in the first statement. The second question was the US forced into action and Rubio could be completely truthful in answering no.

 

[MontyPython]

And that's why I don't pay attention to anything you dems post.

I’m a registered Independent. We do exist.

 

[CobbVol]

Except it could absolutely be passed up and executing it put US personnel at risk. Friday night the negotiations were still meeting had and Israel decided to blow stuff up. Israel's actions forced the US to join. Rubio clearly says why that is so

They and I don't agree with you ...

Although Israel and the US had planned to hit the country at night to take advantage of darkness, as was the method during the 12-day war’s Operation Midnight Hammer, the CIA’s information about the gathering moved up the timing of Saturday’s attacks, the Times reported.

 

[EasternVol]

Do you agree that the initial attack was to the Iranian leadership who held a joint meeting of more than 40 leaders discovered by intel of it occurring?

That has no bearing on the contradiction.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I’m a registered Independent. We do exist.

 

[utvolpj]

They and I don't agree with you ...

Although Israel and the US had planned to hit the country at night to take advantage of darkness, as was the method during the 12-day war’s Operation Midnight Hammer, the CIA’s information about the gathering moved up the timing of Saturday’s attacks, the Times reported.

There's always a choice made to bomb someone. We're not fully autonomous yet. This is especially true when they're engaged in negotiations as was requested.

 

[85SugarVol]

"To protect Israel" is the natural answer to that question, I would maybe ask instead why they chose to station it where they did (but I don't care enough to actually do that)

You shouldn’t have to instruct a fellow Duke grad in such things…

 

[MontyPython]

Kash Patel Fired Entire Team of Iran Experts Right Before Trump’s War​

Kash Patel baselessly fired an elite team of agents specializing in foreign threats from the Middle East just days before Donald Trump launched an illegal military campaign in Iran.

Patel terminated a dozen employees and staff after accusing them—without providing evidence—of improperly investigating Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence.

The FBI director specifically gutted a group known as CI-12, a counterintelligence unit tasked with monitoring threats from Iran and its proxies. Days later, Trump toppled Iran’s regime and sparked a sprawling regional conflict in the Middle East.

 

[Good Ol' Charlie Brown]

Kash Patel Fired Entire Team of Iran Experts Right Before Trump’s War​

Kash Patel baselessly fired an elite team of agents specializing in foreign threats from the Middle East just days before Donald Trump launched an illegal military campaign in Iran.

Patel terminated a dozen employees and staff after accusing them—without providing evidence—of improperly investigating Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago residence.

The FBI director specifically gutted a group known as CI-12, a counterintelligence unit tasked with monitoring threats from Iran and its proxies. Days later, Trump toppled Iran’s regime and sparked a sprawling regional conflict in the Middle East.

Tell me... is this from CNN?

 

[Good Ol' Charlie Brown]

I don't think it was illegal but it was stupid

 

[Orangeslice13]

What do you mean by lesser offenses? "Uneven scale of scrutiny" read to me like you were saying that Republicans cared more about protesters being killed in Iran. Do you think that's true and, if so, do you think it's primarily out of concern for citizens or out of desire to justify an attack on Iran?

Lol
No. Republicans don’t care about people being killed anywhere. They are not selectively protesting. Hell, they were opposed to the Iran attack…..until they were not.
But isn’t that just the opposite side of the same coin?

 

[hog88]

First sentence in your link:

Iran accelerated its production of uranium enriched to near-weapons grade levels in November, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

'near-weapons grade' isn't weapons grade.

Near is spitting distance to weapons grade.

 

[hog88]

Article from 2024. We obliterated those on 2025. Trump said

Ok, did we obliterate the stockpile or just the capability to enrich more?