Iran

[Ritzwatch]

I've been called both an insane liberal and a "Nick Fuentes type" in this thread just because I'm sick of all the crap.

I feel like the average age here is in the 50s. It's clear these people haven't talked to anyone younger than 35, since they keep calling me "extreme". What brand of "extreme", I'll never know.

Extremely rad, maybe.

Butch coming hard with my monthly reminder that it is time to call my son. Thanks, Butch.

Oh, and "bite me" for bashing me for being old.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Kudos to Rubio for telling it like it is. I’m impressed that he would come out and say it. If accurate, I can buy that explanation as to why we acted when we did if it was inevitable that Israel was making a move. Self protection is a big motivator.

Again if true, why couldn’t Trump or Hegseth have come out and said that? I guess it wouldn’t have met their need for self-aggrandizement and ego stroking.

Agreed. If this is true, it would still seem a sketch reason to go to war, except that Iran has proven them right by threatening all their neighbors.

The Administration might have backed into doing the right thing. I just hope, as I did for Gaza, that it ends as quickly and bloodlessly as it can for all the innocents caught in the conflict, wherever they may be.

 

[McDad]

I don’t know for certain but I don’t think it solely belongs to Iran. Idk what goes into “shutting it down”

Seems like UAE and allies have as much of a right for it to stay open as Iran does of closing it down.

 

[Redleg68]

The Iranian regime 1) has had the material (and presumably the motive) to make a dirty bomb and 2) would be crazy enough (due to their zealotry) to use one, and yet 3) to date they never have? It seems to me implausible that all three of these things can be true simultaneously.

I may be wrong, but I believe that they did not reach that enrichment level till late 2024 and that is part of what launched the strikes in 2025. You have to also consider that an outlier group could at some point get their hand on it (one of their sponsored terrorist groups) and explode a dirty Bomb.

 

[Ttucke11]

I've been called both an insane liberal and a "Nick Fuentes type" in this thread just because I'm sick of all the crap.

I feel like the average age here is in the 50s. It's clear these people haven't talked to anyone younger than 35, since they keep calling me "extreme". What brand of "extreme", I'll never know.

Extremely rad, maybe.

Yea I guess they're unaware of what the young conservative men 30ish and under believe. I'm a little above that bracket but my brothers aren't. Their friends aren't. And none of them want to die in the desert for a Holy War we have nothing to do with.

And they are all very very anti Israel. I know I'll get the usuals yelling at me but that's just true. If Israel and ME don't blow us all up and cause Armageddon I'm hoping the future generations rule how they currently believe. Anti intervention and pro American. That's quite honestly all I care about anymore. If it doesn't benefit Americans I don't want any damn thing to do with it.

 

[Smokey123]

Seems like IAE and allies have as much of a right for it to stay open as Iran does of closing it down.

I don’t know how well that will hold up if Iran tries to drone any ship that tries to pass

 

[volinbham]

Seems like IAE and allies have as much of a right for it to stay open as Iran does of closing it down.

Absolutely true - in the past, Iran had the might to ignore those rights. Not sure if they still do.

 

[volinbham]

Agreed. If this is true, it would still seem a sketch reason to go to war, except that Iran has proven them right by threatening all their neighbors.

The Administration might have backed into doing the right thing. I just hope, as I did for Gaza, that it ends as quickly and bloodlessly as it can for all the innocents caught in the conflict, wherever they may be.

My guess is that leadership and infrastructure were always the targets - a matter of when rather than if. Intel revealed a golden opportunity and Israel said they were taking it so we went along sooner than planned.

 

[Smokey123]

Yea I guess they're unaware of what the young conservative men 30ish and under believe. I'm a little above that bracket but my brothers aren't. Their friends aren't. And none of them want to die in the desert for a Holy War we have nothing to do with.

And they are all very very anti Israel. I know I'll get the usuals yelling at me but that's just true. If Israel and ME don't blow us all up and cause Armageddon I'm hoping the future generations rule how they currently believe. Anti intervention and pro American. That's quite honestly all I care about anymore. If it doesn't benefit Americans I don't want any damn thing to do with it.

I said it in the Charlie Kirk thread when he died… older people are going to be very surprised by the views of young people on the right

 

[EasternVol]

Its odd you can't find a representative of a population that makes up, AT MOST, 0.03% of the total? and yes that is the correct decimals with the percentage.

it would be fishy if you COULD find them. I think the ratio of black KKK members is higher than that.

The IDF found some. And shot a few.

 

[Ritzwatch]

My guess is that leadership and infrastructure were always the targets - a matter of when rather than if. Intel revealed a golden opportunity and Israel said they were taking it so we went along sooner than planned.

That is what I think as well.

I think Trump had given them 10 days or so on the negotiations, and late in the timeline the Iranian leadership decided to get together to strategize how they were going to decentralize their control so they could still run the country when they gave us the finger, and Israel said, "Here is our chance, we may never get it again!"

The Iranians, thinking they had 48 hours, met, and when Israel said "Let's Roll," the US decided to go ahead and start knocking off all the sites we knew would hit the "ICE" 3 ring binders that all had the same strategy for the Iranian commanders: "In case of Israeli attack, bomb everyone." And here we are.

 

[Delmar]

Agreed. If this is true, it would still seem a sketch reason to go to war, except that Iran has proven them right by threatening all their neighbors.

The Administration might have backed into doing the right thing. I just hope, as I did for Gaza, that it ends as quickly and bloodlessly as it can for all the innocents caught in the conflict, wherever they may be.

Becoming more and more impressed with Rubio. Pretty much the only person in this administration that I respect. Seems to have at least a semblance of a brain.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

First sentence makes a lot of sense. You don't care about the truth. Can't argue with someone who outright doesn't care about the truth.

This is what we're dealing with these days. These mental wet noodles need to just move to Israel.

I have zero interest in sacrificing young Americans and everyone's tax dollars for some manifested fictitious war in Heaven taking place in the asshoIe of the earth.

 

[McDad]

I don’t know how well that will hold up if Iran tries to drone any ship that tries to pass

It's going to come down to force. Which means Uncle Sam gets into another turf war in a sand box.

 

[headhunter15]

 

[headhunter15]

It's going to come down to force. Which means Uncle Sam gets into another turf war in a sand box.

That’s all Iran understands is force.

 

[midnight orange]

I've been called both an insane liberal and a "Nick Fuentes type" in this thread just because I'm sick of all the crap.

I feel like the average age here is in the 50s. It's clear these people haven't talked to anyone younger than 35, since they keep calling me "extreme". What brand of "extreme", I'll never know.

Extremely rad, maybe.

We’re seeing a real right wing emerging for th first time since Bill Buckley effectively defeated it in the 1950’s. What took over was “conservatism” which was utterly annihilated over the last 50+ years. They lost every major institution- media, the administrative state, education and entertainment. Conservatives are the right flank of the progressive left and the youth are rebelling against it.

 

[CobbVol]

Glad to see this administration understanding who we are up against ...

 

[Smokey123]

It's going to come down to force. Which means Uncle Sam gets into another turf war in a sand box.

Sadly

 

[ButchPlz]

Butch coming hard with my monthly reminder that it is time to call my son. Thanks, Butch.

Oh, and "bite me" for bashing me for being old.

Talk to your kids as often as you can.

 

[volinbham]

It's going to come down to force. Which means Uncle Sam gets into another turf war in a sand box.

probably why we've been hitting the Iranian navy so hard - limit the resources to control the strait.

 

[EasternVol]

Anti-semetic and Antisemetic are two different words. Learn the difference between the two.

That’s a new one. What’s the diff?

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Oh come on, the right has far greater leeway with posts than the left...

Of course, you could have been responding to an idiot so that might have poofed them too..

It wasn't a right or left post.

One was a screenshot on a community notes reply to post on X in regards to the Ayatollah the other a AI spoof of the Sarah McGothlin animal ads in regards to F14s in Iran.

 

[ButchPlz]

That’s a new one. What’s the diff?

All I know from that kind of crap is that I'm happily anti-semantic.

 

[MAD]

Just like Iraq's WMDs.


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@CagleMtnVol you were asking about a little levity