Iran

[BeardedVol]

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

While I think you’re right, it’s also clear that antisemites have become emboldened recently so sometimes it’s hard to tell who’s who.

Same thing with Islamophobes. Sometimes when I proofread my posts, I get to my Islamophobic part and have to look at the username to make sure I was the one who wrote it, or MAD, or Ricky or one of the other couple dozen in our Islamophobia crew. We pretty much regurgitate each other's ideas.

 

[utvolpj]

This is where the train goes off the rails. There are Israeli organizations who appeal to our government for policy. I am not arguing differently.

But our government has chosen to take a vested interest in that part of the world and Israel gives the US a stable (westernized) nation by which to influence the region. That decision ties us to Israel more than anything else.

You may call them stable but they are not a stabilizing force in the region. Their influence is not viewed as positive over there

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

When someone quotes an AI generated opinion as proof of their assertion; the strength of the argument is not exactly enhanced

When the other person has nothing to back up his claims it is. If the AI position is false shouldn't you at least be able to articulate a counter argument with some proof backing it?

 

[NashVol11]

This is where the train goes off the rails. There are Israeli organizations who appeal to our government for policy. I am not arguing differently.

But our government has chosen to take a vested interest in that part of the world and Israel gives the US a stable (westernized) nation by which to influence the region. That decision ties us to Israel more than anything else.

Yeah, I think they have an effective lobby but "infiltrated" is too far for me

 

[FLVOL_79]

I don't "wave Israeli flags" but I also don't believe they were secretly behind the Holocaust either......

Never understand why people believe in elaborate cover ups. Human nature doesnt let big secrets stay secret..

 

[NashVol11]

Scott Jennings:


Reality:

US intel did not suggest a preemptive strike from Iran before US-Israeli attacks, AP sources say

Trump administration officials told congressional staff in private briefings that U.S. intelligence did not suggest Iran was preparing to launch a preemptive strike against the U.S.

apnews.com

 

[Carl Pickens]

If I’m on a flight today and several Muslims get on, should I get off

 

[DinkinFlicka]

This is where the train goes off the rails. There are Israeli organizations who appeal to our government for policy. I am not arguing differently.

But our government has chosen to take a vested interest in that part of the world and Israel gives the US a stable (westernized) nation by which to influence the region. That decision ties us to Israel more than anything else.

I guess I missed the part where Israel is considered a stable presence at any point in the past 4 or 5 decades.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

They’re not. That’s why intelligent people don’t listen when they’re being lectured on a serious topic like American soldiers dying by someone who lied about where they went to college.

Whose lecturing? I'm actually just posting evidence like how we've prioritized protecting Israeli lives over American ones. Prove to me that we're not fighting a war for another nation. That isn't lecturing. Its a debate which is what discussion boards are for.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

If I’m on a flight today and several Muslims get on, should I get off

Paging @BigOrangeTrain

 

[utvolpj]

Yeah, I think they have an effective lobby but "infiltrated" is too far for me

Biggest donors to the POTUS are described by him as being more loyal to Israel than the US. Same ones are actively trying to remove any who disagree. It's like a right wing Soros

 

[Carl Pickens]

That's why I;m giving jimsonweed a try now. Their thorn apples are a bit bitter, but I'm adventurous.

I hear Johnson grass seeds can cause some serious effects

 

[n_huffhines]

"Liberal" rag

 

[Rickyvol77]

Glass houses and all that

What I said was actually factual, the Jews weren't behind the Holocaust

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

the point you are missing with the Ford defense systems is they ONLY protect the Ford. they do not protect even the other ships around the Ford, yet alone an entire country or even a city.

Where's your proof supporting this claim? I gave you my proof that the Ford was stationed to protect Israel with that AI response you discarded. Now provide your evidence for this claim.

 

[NashVol11]

Biggest donors to the POTUS are described by him as being more loyal to Israel than the US. Same ones are actively trying to remove any who disagree. It's like a right wing Soros

Yeah, I think the Adelson types are pretty much everything that the right complained about with Soros

 

[InVOLuntary]

Can you pull some examples? I want to see what the max pain for free speech looks like to you.

You can look back in this thread. I'm sure you are ok with it. Like you are when posters make anti-lgbtq post.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

You can look back in this thread. I'm sure you are ok with it. Like you are when posters make anti-lgbtq post.

I'm genuinely asking. I don't know where the line is for you, so I would appreciate it if you could show me.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yeah it's Sunday and the protests are over. Trump always leaves on the weekends to try and avoid seeing the masses who despise him outside his temporary house. It's either Florida or Leesburg every weekend.

Yeah, the crazies furlough are over. Back on the meds. And then the real people have go clean up after them.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Every time this comes up nobody gives any examples of what they actually find problems with. Every. Time.

Quote the specific stuff, man.

I have problems with someone saying the Jews were behind the Holocaust

 

[NashVol11]

What I said was actually factual, the Jews weren't behind the Holocaust

Jews weren't behind the Holocaust but saying the great majority of Muslims are barbaric and violent isn't "factual" either

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I have problems with someone saying the Jews were behind the Holocaust

Is that someone in the room with us now, Richard?

 

[NashVol11]

And I am still waiting on this, btw

LMAO it was a failed missile launch by the IRGC that landed on that school...and the hamas brigade lapped up the story as predicted

Source? The only "picture" I've seen was from somewhere else and had snow-capped mountains in the background

 

[Orangeslice13]

Agreed. Either Israel is a viable nation-state in a volatile region which can stand on its own two feet or it isn't. It is well past the time for everyone to find out.

So…..if Israel doesn’t have the big stick of the United States to prevent attacks from happening on a grand scale…..do you support their use of Nukes to defend themselves?

Because let’s be real. The middle east is a tinder box and if it may go off anyway, but I have no doubts as to the results if Israel is allowed to stand as they wish.