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to be fair, he knows better than anyone else does (or his people do and told him). put another way - he knows more than will people who are reporting on the issue
If the goal was to destroy the nuke facilities, I'd say he accomplished it,
 
North Korea - which has nuclear weapons - could nuke S Korean or one of our bases there, but they haven't. How's a nuclear powered Iran different?
Are you serious? North Korea isn't run by religious wackos like Iran.
They also can't be pacified by mutual assured destruction like China & Russia because they welcome death & martyrdom you know the whole 72 virgins and all that.
 
That seems like a stupid thing to say. I'd act like the bombs destroyed absolutely everything.
My opinion is Islamic republic reported that and is downplaying the damage done to save face and use it as a reason to not have a strong response. Maybe send a couple more volleys to Israel or “attack” a US base in the ME that misses and lands in an open area then claim victory. They’ve done the exact thing in the past with Israel

At least that’s what it appears rn, their tune could completely change as it’s still very early
 
I aint gonna doubt Israeli intelligence..if they say it is destroyed, it is destoyed. They will be doing recon regularly I assume.
 
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Come on. It's all rubble and they have no clue depth of destruction. All assumptions

absolute certainty? No. High certainty on what would be needed and if that occurred - that's entirely knowable. So the remaining question would be the delta between the theoretical outcome if executed on plan and the actual outcome. My money is that the delta was small enough that the go ahead was given and the plan was executed.
 
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Going from memory the very first shots were from AH-64’s led in by MH-53 Pave Lows because they have better nav. They hit the centralized air defense RADAR network and comms. Then nearly simultaneously the Tomahawks hit.
That may well be true.

It’s reported/known that Tomahawks were certainly part of the opening strikes. The one time GreyWolf ever revealed anything operational (at all) was when he hinted that the Tomahawks went off first.

Even if the Apaches “struck” first, the Fast Attacks could have “fired” first - given the near simultaneous impact, and the further distance the Tomahawks would have covered 🤷‍♀️
 
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Well, now we know why all the tanker activity going across the pond a few days ago. Staging refueling operations for the B2s delivering ordinance tonight.
 
I've followed this thread, and there has been a lot of "Trump will walk it back" rhetoric. Several think he's all talk.

Iran was enriching uranium towards weapon- grade potential. The entire civilized world believes that's a problem. They didn't comply with mandates, and we corrected them.

What exactly do some of y'all have s problem with?

Do you chew the same piece of gum for multiple days?…this was also said 20 years ago..and the story has changed every time to fit the narrative…senseless…you’re glorifying action taken by someone who stated “he didn’t care what tulsi gabbart said” testifying in March his (director of national intelligence) who he appointed.Iran is not stocking up on nuclear weapons and nothing has been proven otherwise just drone footage of buildings we assume that are nuclear sites and empty by the news outlets…our war is on the homefront coming across the border and within our borders. This was bad timing,horrible judgment and shows lack of temperament on the red button..something the democrats ran on for years trying to prove and he’s now givien them the ammo pounding that narrative for the next four years and a democratic president will finish running this country into the ground..mark my words.
 
That may well be true.

It’s reported/known that Tomahawks were certainly part of the opening strikes. The one time GreyWolf ever revealed anything operational (at all) was when he hinted that the Tomahawks went off first.

Even if the Apaches “struck” first, the Fast Attacks could have “fired” first - given the near simultaneous impact, and the further distance the Tomahawks would have covered 🤷‍♀️
Oh they absolutely were a part of it. The strikes were coordinated within seconds to obliterate their air defense and C&C network. Then they were blind and with their Soviet style central control doctrine they were paralyzed.
 
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Last post tonight about this.

Per BBC:

US President Donald Trump said Iran had a "maximum" of two weeks to avoid possible American air strikes, suggesting that he could take a decision before the 14-day deadline he set on Thursday.

"I'm giving them a period of time, and I would say two weeks would be the maximum," Trump told reporters.

The aim, he said, was to "see whether or not people come to their senses".

SPOILER: The aim is moot. Trump ain't gonna bomb nobody. Israel is basically on its own here.
 
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