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And controlled by an insane group of people. He’s right about everything he just said.
He's a moron. American men and women didn't sign up for the military to prevent high energy prices. What an absurd take. And the absurdity is his earlier takes that this would take a very short commitment. Now hes saying the opposite.
 
Was attacking Iran the right move? I have no idea.
I do know they’re bad actors and are the main reason the Middle East is such a cluster F.
They’ve been testing the patience of the USA for over forty years with all of their proxies and attacks on American soldiers in Iraq.
They’ve proven they’re instigators and they hate everything about the USA… I’m talking about the regime…. Not the general population.
The regime is dangerous and the more powerful they become militarily the more dangerous they’ll be. I’ll admit I think they’re nothing more than maniacal 💩wads and that they’re deserving of a devastating ass kicking.
With very little effort the argument could be made that the Middle East is a cluster F bc of the west
 

Just so I'm clear -- we haven't been at  war with Iran for 47 years, but in a military operation against them for 47 years? Either way, I'm grateful to Mr. Trump for doing what Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Biden never once had the courage to do -- to publicly acknowledge the elephant in the room that is this 47-year-long not-a-war-but-a-military-operation.
 
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Sailors have cell phones and access to the internet now. It isn’t like in your days of the sailing ships, no way your going to keep 5000+ sailors from getting word of being hit by missile out. Hell I bet if they did a search of the ship they’d find a few Starlink sets crew brought on board to get around the ships internet system.
If you truly believe that you don't know much about the navy.
 
You so easily throw out terms now without any regard.

Tell yourself whatever you need to justify your raciest hate.

Europeans believed we were demonic murders for 1000 years. With no evidence.
You think today is any different? Did you think they suddenly changed?

You are no different than them.

Keep posting your dug up screenshots, and continue to spread your libels.
I’m sure you are making all the Jew haters proud with your unhinged and unhealthy obsession.


For everyone else, thank you for your support. It’s much appreciated.
It's exhausting to watch the discourse on here collapse every single position into an idiotic binary. ALWAYS mindlessly cheering for the RED or BLUE team (hint: different side same coin).

Edit: After scrolling through some posts it appears that maybe I should have addressed rikberry31 as well.
Rikberry31 responds: "Whatever. By Jew I was talking about Israel. What kind of semantics do you use to seperate [sic] the Jewish people from the nation Israel?"

Nevertheless, in this example, MAD appears to be saying that any critique of THE STATE of Israel is essentially just a 21st-century version of medieval blood "libel(s)". This is a logical fallacy. It’s the kind of thinking that insists that the Israeli State, (which is, by definition an impersonal, bureaucratic apparatus with a strong military and expansionist aspirations) is somehow synonymous with a People/ethnoreligous group (who are, human beings with internal lives and varying opinions on things like public policy and ethics).

I live in Greater NYC ,which as everyone knows has the largest Jewish population outside of Tel Aviv. I count many, both secular and religious, as friends and colleagues. Hell, some years ago, I served as a pallbearer for a dear friend and member of the Tribe.
In my conversations, my friends believe that the actions of the State of Israel have been abhorrent in Gaza, and at present. BUT, if we follow MAD'S logic to its conclusion, we arrive at a reality where a Jewish person who disagrees with the current Israeli administration is somehow... an anti-Semite?--a self-hating Jew? Sadly MAD'S "arguement" removes all internal moral agency of these individuals.

I think what MAD is doing is termed semantic shutdown. MAD is framing political critique as "racist hate" or "unhinged... obsession," But, in my reading, MAD never seems to engage in the content of an argument and often relies on ad hominem attacks. MAD and others continue to conflate the STATE Of ISRAEL with a historically persecuted ethnoreligous group ---in an attempt to create a scenario where the STATE of ISRAEL's actions are beyond criticism.

MAD is essentially characterizing this criticism as a hate crime (to me this sounds sorta libtarded...or just a different flavor of woke... no?).

And now we can't have a civilized discussion--because, most likely, by engaging with MAD/ricberry31, this somehow makes one a "Jew hater."
 
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Fire in the laundry room- smoke damage to a lot of crew quarters. The plumbing issues were prior to this mission.
That's almost impossible, each space is sealed during a general quarters event. General quarter drills happen unannounced several times each months. The navy is pretty serious about fire on ships.
 
This gonna be good.

Just as a refresher for the class: You were an ardent supporter of “Butler, PA shooting was staged”, correct?

Now, tell us what really happened to the USS Ford…

Not sure exactly what happened, I do suspect it was hit . I'm damn well sure a fire raged uncontrollable in the laundry room, causing extensive smoke damage in living qtrs. Sailors
are pretty good at containing fire on board ship

You think I'm the only person in America that believes Trump staged his own assassination attempt. To much just doesn't add up there.
 
Arab coalition backed by the US and Europe in not wanting a terrorist country supported by Iran potentially impacting the strait entering the Red Sea.
Say the word terrorist to some people and they'll support anything. KSA and their allies there have done as much or more terrorism than the Houthis. They haven't attacked the Houthis because the Houthis are terrorists but because the Houthis are fighting KSA's proxy.
 
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Not sure exactly what happened, I do suspect it was hit . I'm damn well sure a fire raged uncontrollable in the laundry room, causing extensive smoke damage in living qtrs. Sailors
are pretty good at containing fire on board ship

You think I'm the only person in America that believes Trump staged his own assassination attempt. To much just doesn't add up there.
A fire in the laundry room is what happened. You suspect it was hit? The Ford is probably the most photographed carrier in the world, it’s 1000 feet long and 20 stories high - it can’t be hidden. Where is the damage?

Idiocy runs rampant in America.
 
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Don’t know if that is true or not, but,

Why would Iran stop shooting missiles if we have run out of interceptors?

I am not a professed military genius, but that seems like a terrible way to win a war.
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Never said we were *out* of defensive missiles, but multiple sources have indicated we're running low so a pause to restock on our part makes sense.
 
When terrorist chant death to America are they talking about just the government? Heck no, they want to exterminate our culture, our people. They were doing that no matter who was in power. Those people want all Americans and all Jews dead.
Is that why Iran has a reserved Jewish seat in their parliament?
 
You should really learn to read. “Afraid to admit to talks” doesn’t mean “afraid to talk”.
Pure crap. The Iranian government recently killed thousands of their own people and you think they're afraid to publicly state they're negotiating? 🤪

Trump is lying. Per usual.
 
We should do a side by side breakdown of Potteiger/ Wilson/Hegseth vs the Mullahs and get to the bottom of who is really insane.
Amen... Just looked up these ghouls: Potteiger/D. Wilson. WOW!
I can't believe I'm typing this!
But in the prosecuting of our current misguided, and AGAIN, ultimately disastrous imperial adventure, I would trade 4 Roses Hegseth for one D. Cheney in a second.
 
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The hypocrisy, double standard and ignorance in this thread/forum are so unbelievably bad I feel like there is no hope for this country.
And there's no real news anymore. Nearly everything is slanted one way or another, or it's political commentary. Everyone getting all worked up and bent out of shape for one reason or another nearly overnight.
 

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