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Why is Bessent talking about military matters? edit- Yes the oil flow through the St. of Hormuz affects financial markets, but sometimes he sounds like he's from DoD instead of Treasury.
The one that has been absent from the Venezuela fiasco up to the current Iran fiasco is Tulsi Gabbard. For a sitting DNI she is the most absent Intel chief I can remember in decades. It really seems they just don’t trust her. Which might not be a bad thing.
 
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The one that has been absent from the Venezuela fiasco up to the current Iran fiasco is Tulsi Gabbard. For a sitting DNI she is the most absent Intel chief I can remember in decades. It really seems they just don’t trust her. Which might not be a bad thing.
She's been sidelined since she said that Iran wasn't actively building a nuke. Trump said she was wrong and he didn't care what she thought
 

Lindsey Graham may just prove to be useful in ending this


 
yeah, it was known that they had a list of preapproved strikes to make if anything happened to their leadership.

makes sense to me that they made those initial preplanned strikes, and cut back after that to review what is needed or makes sense.

obviously they have less than before, but to your point, is it less enough to matter to the war? they could easily just be riding the wave out; knowing the fewer strikes they make, the more the US will lose interest.
How much are we spending to fund all the countermeasures we are taking ourselves, along with us footing the bill for Israel and several Arab states? Shahed drones are dirt cheap, and they're firing old stock missiles. What are we defending everything with?

Now, perhaps I am being optimistic that we'll stop this **** quickly, but maybe the realist's view is that the US does not care about money and will keep blowing through it as long as necessary.
 

Lindsey Graham may just prove to be useful in ending this


Lol. You never know.
 
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America attacked Iran

Well, yes. Here’s a list of Iranian attacks on us. It’s not exhaustive.

  • Nov 1979 – Jan 1981: Iranian students, backed by the regime, seize the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, holding 52 Americans hostage for 444 days.
  • Apr 1983: An Iran-backed suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut kills 63 people, including 17 Americans.
  • Oct 1983: Iran-backed Hezbollah truck bomb targets the U.S. Marine Barracks in Beirut, killing 241 American service personnel.
  • Dec 1983: Hezbollah operatives drive an explosives-filled truck through the gates of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait City.
  • Mar 1984: Hezbollah/Islamic Jihad kidnaps CIA Station Chief William Buckley in Beirut; he is later tortured and killed in 1985.
  • Sep 1984: A car bomb attack at the U.S. Embassy Annex in Beirut kills 23 people, including two American service members.
  • Dec 1984: Hezbollah hijackers take control of Kuwait Airways Flight 221, diverting it to Tehran and killing two U.S. AID officials.
  • Jun 1985: Hezbollah terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847, murdering U.S. Navy diver Robert Stethem and throwing his body onto the tarmac.
  • Jul 1989: Hezbollah operatives murder U.S. Marine Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him a year prior during a UN peacekeeping mission.
  • Jun 1996: Khobar Towers Bombing in Saudi Arabia; Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz detonates a truck bomb, killing 19 U.S. Airmen.
  • Aug 1998: U.S. federal courts later ruled Iran liable for providing material support and training to Al-Qaeda for the U.S. Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed 12 Americans.
  • Oct 2000: Federal courts later linked Iranian logistics and training to the Al-Qaeda bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen.
  • Aug 2001: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bombing at a Jerusalem Pizzeria (Sbarro) kills 15 people, including three Americans.
  • Jul 2002: A Hamas-planted bomb at Hebrew University in Jerusalem kills nine people, including five American students.
  • 2003–2011: The Pentagon estimates Iran-backed militias (e.g., Kata’ib Hezbollah) killed at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq. Iran specifically provided Explosively Formed Penetrators (EFPs)—advanced IEDs designed to pierce American armor.
  • Oct 2003: Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees kill three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.
  • Jan 2007: IRGC-affiliated militants disguise themselves as U.S. soldiers to infiltrate a compound in Karbala, Iraq, killing five U.S. soldiers.
  • Mar 2007: Former FBI Agent Robert Levinson is kidnapped in Iran; he is presumed to have died in Iranian custody.
  • Dec 2019: Kata’ib Hezbollah rocket attacks on the K1 Air Base in Iraq kill one U.S. civilian contractor.
  • Jan 2020: In the largest direct ballistic missile attack ever against U.S. forces, Iran strikes Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq. Over 100 U.S. service members suffer Traumatic Brain Injuries (TBI).
  • Feb 2021: Rocket attacks in Erbil, Iraq, wound one U.S. service member and four contractors.
  • Sep 2022: An Iranian rocket attack in Iraqi Kurdistan kills an American citizen.
  • Mar 2023: An Iranian drone attack on a base in Hasakah, Syria, kills one U.S. contractor and wounds five service members.
  • Oct 2023: During the Oct 7 massacre, Iran-backed Hamas kills over 30 Americans and takes others hostage.
  • Jan 2024: A drone attack by Kata’ib Hezbollah on Tower 22 in Jordan kills three U.S. service members.
  • Nov 2024: U.S. authorities charge an IRGC asset in a plot to assassinate President Trump.
  • Mar 2025: Two Iranian agents are convicted in New York for a plot to assassinate Iranian-American journalist Masih Alinejad.
  • Jun 2025: Coordinated missile and drone strikes target five U.S. bases across Iraq and Syria.
So, yes, we attacked Iran, but it’s pretty safe to say that they started it, kept it up, and that all in all, our government was much too tolerant of Iran’s constant attacks on Americans.

Finally

For decades, the West has talked itself out of dealing with persistent threats from Iran and its proxies; for decades the West has persuaded itself that there is some outcome in which this regime does not get either a breakout capability or nuclear weapons; for decades, we and all Iran’s neighbors have allowed these Islamist tyrants to bully us, violate treaties, violate laws, kill our people, and otherwise intimidate and deter us.

It may well be that this war will not end with a clear alternative leader or a transition that gives us huge confidence. We may think about a need to press harder or do more to support a new government. But none of that means it was wrong to finally address this malign regime. Sometimes, acting is better than standing by and waiting for the Iranians to kill again.
No need to worry, right? It’s all isolated in the Middle East. This doesn’t impact the West. We are fine. 🤡🤥💩



The group carries out operations through local cells or individual operatives directed from abroad, the report said. Its operational model includes establishing new organizations before each attack, communicating through existing networks used by the terror organization, and hiding behind local operations to protect the culpability of the operation’s leaders.

This model, which allows terrorist networks to operate in Europe while maintaining operational ambiguity, may reflect an evolving pattern of attacks through front organizations and proxies, the report noted.

The organization’s ability to coordinate attacks in multiple countries in a short period of time indicates that the risk of further attacks remains significant, it said.

Intelligence analyses indicate that the footage of the attacks was quickly distributed on Telegram channels affiliated with pro-Iranian Shiite militant networks, including channels linked to Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

The organization’s name is similar to a title previously used by the Iraqi militia Harakat Ansar Allah al-Awfiya, an organization designated as a terrorist organization by the US State Department. As the leader of that group was reportedly assassinated in late February, it is possible that the attacks on European synagogues are also intended as a message of revenge, the report said.



The name “Ashab al-Yamin” originates from Quranic terminology describing the righteous who receive their record in their right hand on Judgment Day.

Its logo depicts a raised arm holding a rifle pointed to the right with a globe behind it, a design that closely resembles the symbols used by Iranian-aligned militant groups. However, the emblem features a Dragunov sniper rifle, rather than the AK-47 commonly used in other logos, a difference that may be intended to obscure direct attribution, analysts said.
 
she is a bit more competent than the rest of them. which is I think part of the reason she is outed.

granted I am not saying she is actually qualified, just more competent.
Vfh pointed out she’s against invading Iran so I’d guess they are not interested in hearing what she has to say. She’s been excluded from a bunch of Intel meetings and activity it looks like.
 
Vfh pointed out she’s against invading Iran so I’d guess they are not interested in hearing what she has to say. She’s been excluded from a bunch of Intel meetings and activity it looks like.
she was typically a voice against war. I think some of her later voting habits changed on that, but at least originally I appreciated that she wasn't a war hawk.
 
No, not really. Don't get me wrong. I disagree with what's going on with Iran. But given the history of the Catholic church, it's hard to take them seriously.
Sure, all I'm getting at is that a lot of "holy" wars we've seen in history used God as cover- just like old Petey boy is doing here.

The first crusade was as much about getting a bunch of rowdy knights with nothing to do out of Europe for a little while as anything. Others started due to unpopularity at home. In other words, war has been war and its causes have been the same for forever.
 
How much are we spending to fund all the countermeasures we are taking ourselves, along with us footing the bill for Israel and several Arab states? Shahed drones are dirt cheap, and they're firing old stock missiles. What are we defending everything with?

Now, perhaps I am being optimistic that we'll stop this **** quickly, but maybe the realist's view is that the US does not care about money and will keep blowing through it as long as necessary.

We're spending millions to take out 5-figure drones. There was a Wall Street Journal podcast on it last week. Some other highlights:

- Ukraine has fired 600 Patriot missiles in the last few years
- We fired 800-1000 in the first week of the Iran war
- Our production is ~600 year
- Patriot missiles are very expensive

Basically, they will use old tech to deplete our new tech which is very expensive and hard to replace.
 

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