Iran

[Smokey123]

Wait, I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly and not misreading what you're saying.

It is your contention that there was no evidence, zero, nada, existiert nicht ( @OrangeTsar ) that the Iranians were in any form trying to build a nuclear weapon?

Go ahead and provide your evidence since you know more than the IAEA

 

[adam.vol]

Netanyahu had been saying for over 30 years they were building nuclear weapons. It doesn’t take decades to develop nuclear weapons if you’re trying

Can you provide any evidence they were developing nuclear weapons?

Meanwhile North Korea accomplished researching and building nuclear weapons within a couple of years? Yeah, I don’t buy it.

 

[ButchPlz]

I’m not your buddy, pal.
i don’t have any time to waste on a debate about the chosen people or whatever nonsense rabbit hole you’re headed

....so, as usual, nothing. I don't get what it is with you folks in here. There's never proof of anything, just a bunch of two-sentence whining and zero depth.

It's not much of a "debate" with a guy so twisted in BS that he can't remember what he's even made up about all over the place.

The cool thing about the "truth" you keep murmuring about is that you don't really have to make much effort to remember where wires are crossed, because the wires, well, don't get crossed.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Go ahead and provide your evidence since you know more than the IAEA

What?! I'm asked you a question and that has nothing to do with what I believe. I want to make sure I understand your statements without assuming anything. Can you answer the question or do I need to repeat it.

@NashVol11, by the way, kudos for answering that question I asked you the other day honestly.

 

[CobbVol]

Netanyahu had been saying for over 30 years they were building nuclear weapons. It doesn’t take decades to develop nuclear weapons if you’re trying

Can you provide any evidence they were developing nuclear weapons?

This is the most recent info that I found ...

How advanced is Iran's nuclear program? Here's what we know as U.S. and Israel launch strikes.

President Trump launched military strikes on Iran after several rounds of talks over the country's nuclear program and uranium stockpiles. Here's what to know about the nuclear program.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Smokey123]

What?! I'm asked you a question and that has nothing to do with what I believe. I want to make sure I understand your statements without assuming anything. Can you answer the question or do I need to repeat it.

@NashVol11, by the way, kudos for answering that question I asked you the other day honestly.

Yes. US intelligence said they’re not. The IAEA has repeatedly said they’re not.

 

[Smokey123]

This is the most recent info that I found ...

How advanced is Iran's nuclear program? Here's what we know as U.S. and Israel launch strikes.

President Trump launched military strikes on Iran after several rounds of talks over the country's nuclear program and uranium stockpiles. Here's what to know about the nuclear program.

www.cbsnews.com

From said article

What's not clear, however, is whether Iran has made the decision to build a nuclear weapon. Iran is believed to have halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003, and the U.S. intelligence community assessed last spring that the program hadn't restarted.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

CBS Austin reporter filmed getting text from boss telling him NOT to cover Iranian protesters praising Trump and Netanyahu's killing of Ayatollah​

A CBS Austin reporter appeared to ignore direction from superiors suggesting he de-emphasize coverage of a pro-Israel-US protest occurring behind him in the wake of American and Israeli strikes on Iran.

Vinny Martorano was surrounded by demonstrators who waved Iranian flags while shouting 'thank you Trump' and 'thank you Bibi' outside the Texas Capitol on Saturday when he received the command during a Facebook livestream.

'What does that mean?' the reporter could be heard asking in a viral clip, as he reads a message on a phone handed to him by a crew member from the TV station.

'It means they don't want us to focus on this,' the off-screen staffer says in the snippet.


A defiant Martorano shoots back, 'Well, I am,' before pressing forward with his live coverage.

The rest of Martorano's report wrapped shortly after the unscripted section.



CBS Austin reporter Vinny Martorano broadcasts live outside the Texas Capitol on Saturday, during coverage that was livestreamed to the station's Facebook

Reporter filmed getting text telling him NOT to cover Iran protesters

Vinny Martorano was surrounded by demonstrators who waved Iranian flags while shouting 'thank you Trump' outside the Texas Capitol Saturday when he got the command live.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[appvol]

Deflection aside, did Iran launch a nuclear attack on Israel? If not then it's not what Hillary or others "promised for years to do"

So you are saying in 2008 the US didn’t think Iran was trying to get a nuclear weapon. Why would Hillary make those comments if she didn’t have intelligence on Iran.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

1. Jesus loves this post- my favorite part of His preaching was where He told us it was our jobs as humans to turn places to rubble.

2. I posted a brief history on the nation of Israel in this very thread; what are we making "whole" again?

Crazy to think you know the mind or wishes of God. You may need to review scripture as to how many times God (therefore Jesus) demolished towns, cities, kingdoms, and the entire human race save Noah and his family.

I know which people God said were His Chosen though...and its the Jews. I say that while not being a Jew, and not a great Christian either to be honest. I sin each and every day against God in one way or another.

Jesus wasnt a peace loving Hippie either like Lefties want to make him out to be. When he caught the money changers etc doing business in the Temple he knocked all their tables over...then whipped and beat them profusely.

I don't pretend to know what God wants day to day, because the best we can do is learn about his nature from Scripture and prayer. The Bible makes it really clear though that He has no problem wrecking human constructs and wiping out people who do evil. He also says directly that the Jews are His people. So if I had to guess, I would say God wants the people who constantly shoot rockets, strap bombs, rape, murder etc the Jews to get away from Israel and let them be. I believe there is far more evidence for that than the contrary view you proposed.

 

[appvol]

Netanyahu had been saying for over 30 years they were building nuclear weapons. It doesn’t take decades to develop nuclear weapons if you’re trying

Can you provide any evidence they were developing nuclear weapons?

Nope can you provide evidence Iran wasn’t. Some of yall know way more the US government on what’s going on. Seems like you could a service to the US government with how much yall know and post as if they are facts

 

[Smokey123]

Nope can you provide evidence Iran wasn’t. Some of yall know way more the US government on what’s going on. Seems like you could a service to the US government with how much yall know and post as if they are facts

The literal US government and IAEA said they’re not…

 

[Vol8188]

Ya, I’m not sure that matters any. Even though that’s accurate.
I was opposed to both wars. Just wasn’t our problem.

It’s more reason why the intelligence agencies would believe it. The head of state himself was promoting the claim

 

[Franklin Pierce]

An Iranian-American Democrat has condemned the party for their hand-wringing following Donald Trump's attack on Iran.

Moj Mahdara, who uses they/them pronouns, called on their fellow liberals to 'wake up' while appearing on CNN over the weekend after the death of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Mahdara, who co-founded The Iranian Diaspora Collective, said: 'It is imperative the Democratic Party wake up and get past their dislike of President Trump, and their feelings of international conflicts going on.

'This is about national security. This is about what is possible in the Middle East. This is about being a good neighbor, good partner to the Gulf States and what their aspirations are.'

Mahdara went on to link the death of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as being as important as the toppling of the Berlin Wall which signified the end of the Soviet Union.

They said: 'This is a transformational moment for humankind, for security, and, as an American, this is in our interest to complete it.'

In a subsequent post to Instagram, Mahdara added: 'I feel like the Democratic party has failed me. Wake up ? It’s not too late.'

Iranian-American Dem disgusted by party's condemnation of Trump

Moj Mahdara called on the Democratic party to 'wake up' and put aside their hatred of Donald Trump and to back his attack on Iran.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[ButchPlz]

Crazy to think you know the mind or wishes of God. You may need to review scripture as to how many times God (therefore Jesus) demolished towns, cities, kingdoms, and the entire human race save Noah and his family.

I know which people God said were His Chosen though...and its the Jews. I say that while not being a Jew, and not a great Christian either to be honest. I sin each and every day against God in one way or another.

Jesus wasnt a peace loving Hippie either like Lefties want to make him out to be. When he caught the money changers etc doing business in the Temple he knocked all their tables over...then whipped and beat them profusely.

I don't pretend to know what God wants day to day, because the best we can do is learn about his nature from Scripture and prayer. The Bible makes it really clear though that He has no problem wrecking human constructs and wiping out people who do evil. He also says directly that the Jews are His people. So if I had to guess, I would say God wants the people who constantly shoot rockets, strap bombs, rape, murder etc the Jews to get away from Israel and let them be. I believe there is far more evidence for that than the contrary view you proposed.

Galatians 3:16 and 3:28 (really the whole of Galatians 3) describes who God's chosen people are and the meaning of Jesus. Have you read that part of the Bible? Have you had a preacher preach anything on that section? Right now, you are explicitly elevating a human government and a bunch of other failed humans over Jesus Christ. We call that idolatry, bordering on outright blasphemy.

This is not even basic Christianity. This is fundamental stuff that a child understands- be more like the child. Someone told you that once. I've never met a child that wants people dead.

I'll genuinely pray for you, and I mean it, because like someone else said, I think you're pretty decent.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Yes. US intelligence said they’re not. The IAEA has repeatedly said they’re not.

Interesting. This tells what you think US intelligence thinks and IAEA says, but yet another dodge. I asked what you think and believe. Why are you dodging answering the question? Do I need to repeat it for you? Was it unclear? If so, I will gladly clarify.

EDIT: @Smokey123 did indeed answer and I overlooked it.

 

[Smokey123]

Interesting. This tells what you think US intelligence thinks and IAEA says, but yet another dodge. I asked what you think and believe. Why are you dodging answering the question? Do I need to repeat it for you? Was it unclear? If so, I will gladly clarify.

Do you not see the yes in the beginning of my comment I answered it the first time you asked.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Every Leftist/Democrat in the US now including some in this thread:

" BUT ISREAL CONTROLS OUR GOVERNMENT. THEY BOUGHT ALL THE POLITICIANS. ESPECIALLY TRUMP!!!"

So they feel they have the right to openly hate Jews who have never done anything to affect them in their entire lives. There are only about 15Million Jews left on Earth for Pete's sake. As many live in the US as live in Israel.
So its just more hating their own people amd country. Since the only ideas they have are Socialism, drive thru abortions up til contractions start, and fictional "trans" BS. This mental illness plagues our country and all of the West.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Nope can you provide evidence Iran wasn’t. Some of yall know way more the US government on what’s going on. Seems like you could a service to the US government with how much yall know and post as if they are facts

Do be fair, one cannot prove a negative. I cannot prove that Russell's Teapot does not exist.

 

[ButchPlz]

Every Leftist/Democrat in the US now including some in this thread:

" BUT ISREAL CONTROLS OUR GOVERNMENT. THEY BOUGHT ALL THE POLITICIANS. ESPECIALLY TRUMP!!!"

So they feel they have the right to openly hate Jews who have never done anything to affect them in their entire lives. There are only about 15Million Jews left on Earth for Pete's sake. As many live in the US as live in Israel.
So its just more hating their own people amd country. Since the only ideas they have are Socialism, drive thru abortions up til contractions start, and fictional "trans" BS. This mental illness plagues our country and all of the West.

AIPAC, which is usually the biggest group in question, doesn't have to register under FARA, because technically they're an "American" lobbying group.

So the very first part of the tweet- using FARA data- misses one of the biggest potential problem groups people cite.

Before jumping in, catch up.

(PS: CAIR doesn't have to register, either, which is a huge problem. Since everyone likes to talk about how things are drops in the bucket around here, CAIR is a drop in the bucket compared to AIPAC.)

 

[GroverCleveland]

Do you not see the yes in the beginning of my comment I answered it the first time you asked.

I apologize. I did not see it. Thank you for the answer.

 

[utvolpj]

You are right. You know exactly what Iran has been doing since then.

Yes it's highly likely they rebuilt a nuclear weapons program from scratch in 6mos.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

lol. Keep on looking dumb barkeep.

Aw, someone's butthurt.

 

[utvolpj]

This is the most recent info that I found ...

How advanced is Iran's nuclear program? Here's what we know as U.S. and Israel launch strikes.

President Trump launched military strikes on Iran after several rounds of talks over the country's nuclear program and uranium stockpiles. Here's what to know about the nuclear program.

www.cbsnews.com

So they were on negotiations again and he bombed them again. Why even pretend the US and Israel want to negotiate? No one is going to believe it

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Lol, you know

He tries to retconn and tell us he was joking.

It's the #1 VNPF running joke to me. Grizz would hit it ranks a close second.