Iran

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

if you read your link - 49% were opposed. the unsure and in favor of was 51% so calling this against the will is inaccurate.

So you think everyone who is unsure is going to be in favor? Incredibly disingenuous. If you look at election polling usually the undecided vote goes 50/50 with slight leans towards the incumbent or challenger based on how the direction of the country is going.

The opposition is 2x those in favor of war. Which means the unsure/undecided would most likely break even to make it 65% of Americans against war to just 35% in favor.

 

[Smokey123]

This article showed up in Apple News Feed. Houthis are in as are groups in Iraq, it seems.

Explosions rock Dubai, Bahrain, Jordan and Kuwait as war spreads across Middle East — Guardian US

War launched by US and Israel on Iran has quickly escalated prompting anxiety and concern in whole region

apple.news

“As Iran responded to US and Israeli strikes by bombing the Gulf and Israel, its proxies joined the fray. Bases belonging to the Iran-backed Popular Mobilization Forces in Iraq were struck by either the US or Israel, killing at least two members of the armed Iraqi group Kataib Hezbollah.


The Iran-backed groups responded by coming to its aid, with Kataib Hezbollah and Yemen’s Houthis both warning they would be joining strikes on US military bases across the region.”





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“Explosions rock Dubai, Bahrain, Jordan and Kuwait as war spreads across Middle East”


William Christou, Angela Giuffrida


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Explosions rock Dubai, Bahrain, Jordan and Kuwait as war spreads across Middle East — Guardian US

War launched by US and Israel on Iran has quickly escalated prompting anxiety and concern in whole region

apple.news

I don’t understand the difference between the Houthis in Iraq vs Yemen same with hezbollah in Lebanon vs Iraq

 

[EasternVol]

They need to be driving en masse to whatever remains of the regime, with purpose.

It’s time to assemble the Committee of Public Safety, and end this thing.

It’s not time to celebrate, yet.

They might want to wait until the incoming missiles stop before they go near government, especially RG, facilities.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

This could get ugly. These countries would not handle waves of missiles like what happened last summer with Iran v Israel

Its a smart strategy and will expose how the US is only interested in protecting the civilians in Israel over our own troops in Middle Eastern countries. We parked our most advanced carrier outside Israel for a reason. To protect them from ballistic missiles because Israeli lives are more valuable than American lives.

Iran is wisely pivoting to attack the areas the US has deemed not as worthy of protecting as Israeli lives. We'll see how the Gulf countries that have aligned with Israel feel about being the red headed stepchild when it comes to who gets US protection.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Iran striking their neighbors clearly backfired, if anything it united all the countries in the region against the IRGC.

The average Muslim in those countries is backing Iran over their corrupt governments. You clearly have zero clue about the pulse of the Muslim people if you think they are siding with their governments over the Iranian regime.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Los Angeles is a predominately Christian city. I read the Bible, including the New Testament, one time through decades ago, but I don't remember a part in red ink stating, "Abandon your poor and use your money to bomb children of total strangers in a country you can't find on the map." If that's what Jesus said, he must be beaming with pride these days.



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If Trump saud were going to come in and clean up the city remove the homeless Karan Bass would go nuts telling him to stay out of Los Angeles.

 

[MAD]

Bunch of big talkers.

 

[Vol737]

I don’t understand the difference between the Houthis in Iraq vs Yemen same with hezbollah in Lebanon vs Iraq

Guess it’s just their own delineation between affiliated groups(?).

 

[Smokey123]

The average Muslim in those countries is backing Iran over their corrupt governments. You clearly have zero clue about the pulse of the Muslim people if you think they are siding with their governments over the Iranian regime.

You have no idea if the average citizen in Qatar or Saudi is rooting for the Islamic Republic over their government. What a silly statement

 

[Smokey123]

Guess it’s just their own delineation between affiliated groups(?).

Basically. From what I just read it seems like they’re just proxies. They have the same goals, aligned with the IRGC but the ones in Iraq operate as militias with no governmental authority

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You have no idea if the average citizen in Qatar or Saudi is rooting for the Islamic Republic over their government. What a silly statement

Do you go to a mosque every Friday and converse with Muslims from those countries who have relatives in said countries? Well I do. And the disconnect between the people and those governments is well known. In fact the Imams at the mosques spend all their time railing against the corrupt Arab leaders in those countries than they do against Israeli or American leaders.

The only reason Saudi Arabian and Qatari leaders haven't been overthrown is they are bribing their people. The average Saudi/Qatari/Kuwaiti gets so much money from the government in benefits that its neutered the public from rising up even if ideologically they are totally opposed to the position taken by their leaders with regard to Israel and Iran.

Get out the house and talk to everyday Muslim and maybe you won't be so delusional.

 

[Smokey123]

Do you go to a mosque every Friday and converse with Muslims from those countries who have relatives in said countries? Well I do. And the disconnect between the people and those governments is well known. In fact the Imams at the mosques spend all their time railing against the corrupt Arab leaders in those countries than they do against Israeli or American leaders.

The only reason Saudi Arabian and Qatari leaders haven't been overthrown is they are bribing their people. The average Saudi/Qatari/Kuwaiti gets so much money from the government in benefits that its neutered the public from rising up even if ideologically they are totally opposed to the position taken by their leaders with regard to Israel and Iran.

Get out the house and talk to everyday Muslim and maybe you won't be so delusional.

1 Anecdotal
2 just because they think their country is corrupt doesn’t mean they support the Islamic republic and Khamenei
3 I talk to and know plenty

 

[MAD]

The average Muslim in those countries is backing Iran over their corrupt governments. You clearly have zero clue about the pulse of the Muslim people if you think they are siding with their governments over the Iranian regime.

No one cares that you hate democracy more than you want Iranians to be free.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

1 Anecdotal
2 just because they think their country is corrupt doesn’t mean they support the Islamic republic and Khamenei
3 I talk to and know plenty

They support Muslims over Jews dummy. We are discussing the conflict between Israel and Iran not the Iranian government in a vacuum. Most of the Muslim world is Sunni so they have very little love for Shias in general. But vis-a-vis the Jews its an easy choice. The issue we're discussing is about how the Arab leadership in the Gulf supports the state of Israel while the rank and file Muslim population doesn't. The fact you're even trying to challenge me on this point is ridiculous.

 

[Smokey123]

They support Muslims over Jews dummy. We are discussing the conflict between Israel and Iran not the Iranian government in a vacuum. Most of the Muslim world is Sunni so they have very little love for Shias in general. But vis-a-vis the Jews its an easy choice. The issue we're discussing is about how the Arab leadership in the Gulf supports the state of Israel while the rank and file Muslim population doesn't. The fact you're even trying to challenge me on this point is ridiculous.

“The average Muslim in those countries is backing Iran over their corrupt governments.”
You cant even keep your argument straight. buffoonery

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

No one cares that you hate democracy more than you want Iranians to be free.

I only care about Americans. Let the Iranians fight for their own freedom. American money and soldiers shouldn't be wasted trying to give freedom to anyone else.

And FTR we all know this isn't about freedom for the Iranian people. That's a cover for us risking American lives and money for Israel.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

“The average Muslim in those countries is backing Iran over their corrupt governments.”
You cant even keep your argument straight. buffoonery

Yes. They are supporting Iran right now over their corrupt governments that are in support of the Israeli and US attack.

How can Muslim be these scary bad guys we have to be afraid of but at the same time they are also in support of US and Israel bombing another Muslim country? You guys can't even keep your silly propaganda stories straight.

 

[Smokey123]

Yes. They are supporting Iran right now over their corrupt governments that are in support of the Israeli and US attack.

How can Muslim be these scary bad guys we have to be afraid of but at the same time they are also in support of US and Israel bombing another Muslim country? You guys can't even keep your silly propaganda stories straight.

Good grief you’re dumb af

 

[MAD]

I only care about Americans. Let the Iranians fight for their own freedom. American money and soldiers shouldn't be wasted trying to give freedom to anyone else.

And FTR we all know this isn't about freedom for the Iranian people. That's a cover for us risking American lives and money for Israel.

Some people just like to hear themselves kvetch.

 

[EasternVol]

That jackass is a self described Communist and a Muslim who supports his brethren taking over Western Europe. When thats a person's mindset and frame of reference...everything they say is worthless BS and I will not waste a second of my life listening to their drivel. We don't need to welcome ANYONE else to this nation right now either. We still have about 15million illegals his Democrats allowed to walk into our country unvetted at our borders that need to be deported. Including many radical muslims from MENA whose terrorist acts we may be dealing with for decades.

No refugees? That puts the lie to a lot of your rhetoric.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Good grief you’re dumb af

I'm dumb for suggesting Muslims are in support of a Muslim country that was attacked by Jewish and American forces? LOL.

If you can't logically support your claims maybe you should rethink them. Muslims can't be both this scary group we have to be afraid of while simultaneously supporting us and Israel when we attack other Muslims. You can't have your propaganda both ways.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Some people just like to hear themselves kvetch.

Spoken like someone who has no response to the argument I stated. Thanks for admitting defeat.

 

[EasternVol]

I dont even know which statement you folks were discussing...or care. I stand by my statement as truth however. I made 2 claims in my post regarding the idiot mayor of NYC:

1. He is a Communist
2. He supports his Muslim brethren overrunning Western Europe

You not caring highlights your intentional ignorance. Ignorance isn't good. I don't know why some people think it is. Why do you think it is?
As far as I know he's much more Socialist than Communist. What makes him a Communist?
Is there any documentation of his support for Muslims 'overrunning' Western Europe?

 

[Smokey123]

I'm dumb for suggesting Muslims are in support of a Muslim country that was attacked by Jewish and American forces? LOL.

If you can't logically support your claims maybe you should rethink them. Muslims can't be both this scary group we have to be afraid of while simultaneously supporting us and Israel when we attack other Muslims. You can't have your propaganda both ways.

No. You’re dumb for suggesting something you couldn’t back up and then instead made up a completely different argument. Also for creating a red herring in the last paragraph that has nothing to do with the argument. Ya I’m terrified of Muslims