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MAD said:
The Western liberal media is ignoring the Iranian uprising because explaining it would force an admission it is desperate to avoid: the Iranian people are rebelling against Islam itself, and that fact shatters the moral framework through which these institutions understand the world.

Ideally, to cover an uprising is not just to show crowds and slogans. It requires answering a basic question: why are people risking death? In Iran, the answer is simple and unavoidable. The people are rising up because the Islamic Republic of Iran has spent decades suffocating every aspect of life—speech, work, family, art, women, and economic survival—under a clerical system that treats liberty as a crime. There is no way to tell that story without confronting the nature of the regime.

Western media refuses to do so because it has fundamentally misunderstood Islam. Or worse, it has chosen not to understand it.

Islam, in Western progressive discourse, has been racialized. It is treated not as a belief system or a political ideology, but as a stand-in for race or ethnicity. Criticizing Islam is framed as an attack on “brown people,” Arabs, or “the Middle East,” as if Islam were a skin color rather than a doctrine.

This confusion is rooted in historical illiteracy. Western liberal media routinely collapses entire civilizations into a single stereotype: “all Middle Easterners are Arabs,” “all Arabs are Muslim,” and “all Muslims are a monolithic, oppressed identity group by white European colonizers.” Iranians disappear entirely in this framework. Their language, history, and culture—Persian, not Arab; ancient, not colonial; distinct, not interchangeable—are erased.

By treating Islam as a racial identity rather than an ideology, Western media strips millions of people of their ability to reject it. Iranian protesters become unintelligible. Their rebellion cannot be processed without breaking the rule that Islam must not be criticized. So instead of listening to Iranians, the media speaks over them—or ignores them entirely.

There is another reason the Iranian uprising is so threatening to Western media is economic issues.

As you know, Iran is not only a religious dictatorship. It is a centrally controlled, state-dominated economy where markets are strangled, private enterprise is criminalized or co-opted, and economic survival depends on proximity to political power. Decades of price controls, subsidies, nationalization, and bureaucratic micromanagement have obliterated the middle class and entrenched corruption as the only functional system. The result is not equality or justice. It is poverty, stagnation, and dependence on government’s dark void of empty promises.

Covering Iran honestly would require acknowledging that these policies are harmful. They have been tried. They have failed. Catastrophically.

This is deeply inconvenient for Western media institutions that routinely promote expansive state control, centralized economic planning, and technocratic governance as morally enlightened alternatives to liberal capitalism. Iran demonstrates where such systems lead when insulated from accountability and enforced by ideology. It shows that when the state controls livelihoods, non-conformity becomes existentially dangerous. That lesson cannot be acknowledged without undermining the moral authority of those who advocate similar ideas in softer language.

Western liberal media prefers not to hear this. Acknowledging it would require abandoning the lazy moral categories that dominate modern discourse: oppressor and oppressed, colonizer and colonized, white and non-white. Iranian protesters do not fit. They show that authoritarianism is not a Western invention imposed from outside, but something many societies are actively trying to escape.

That is what terrifies Western liberal media. And that is why the Iranian people are being ignored.

So the silence continues.

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TLDR, but did read a little. Media isn’t covering it because Trump gets a W. Again. Pretty simple
 
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EasternVol said:
That was good of the Iranians to show sympathy. How is a show of sympathy the same as flying Israeli flags at a pro-Shah rally? That makes it look like those wanting the Shah back aren't necessarily Iranians.
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Ok I watched the video this is a bit of a stretch. By and large the majority of the flags flown were the Iranian monarchy flags. I counted three Israeli flags. So it’s a major stretch Armstrong move to impart that small minority display on that huge crowd. And no those flying the Israeli flag likely weren’t Iranians. I’d guess they were Jews showing support for Iranian liberation while flying their own flag also. And they were a very very small number of the crowd present.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Holding up just fine. Just trying to get a few in before Doomsday! 😃
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Eh there won’t be a doomsday due to Venezuela and Iran. If anything it unwinds the doomsday clock. Does make projecting influence a bit tougher for Putin though. Especially in the western hemisphere if the US follows thru on Cuba.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Eh there won’t be a doomsday due to Venezuela and Iran. If anything it unwinds the doomsday clock. Does make projecting influence a bit tougher for Putin though. Especially in the western hemisphere if the US follows thru on Cuba.
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Definitely a pronounced scrum for global influence atm. Honest question….do you think these moves are based on the fact that we are losing that influence/grip?
 
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Pacer92 said:
Definitely a pronounced scrum for global influence atm. Honest question….do you think these moves are based on the fact that we are losing that influence/grip?
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No idea honestly but I don’t really see these actions as a reaction to us losing influence prior to Trump 47. Just a guess on my part. And I’m not a fan of us snatching foreigners out of their bed in the middle of the night even if they are petty dictators. This approach is the antithesis of what Trump ran on. But he didn’t ask me so…. 🤷‍♂️

Back to influence I think we can easily say we have considerably more influence today in Venezuela than we did a year ago though. Not a fan of the method but increased influence is a result. And if the Iranian regime falls I am absolutely positive the West, likely lead by us, will be more than happy to swoop in there and bias whomever fills that power vacuum. And I think Moscow is not in a position to do much amount it they still have their hands full currently.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No idea honestly but I don’t really see these actions as a reaction to us losing influence prior to Trump 47. Just a guess on my part. And I’m not a fan of us snatching foreigners out of their bed in the middle of the night even if they are petty dictators. This approach is the antithesis of what Trump ran on. But he didn’t ask me so…. 🤷‍♂️

Back to influence I think we can easily say we have considerably more influence today in Venezuela than we did a year ago though. Not a fan of the method but increased influence is a result. And if the Iranian regime falls I am absolutely positive the West, likely lead by us, will be more than happy to swoop in there and bias whomever fills that power vacuum. And I think Moscow is not in a position to do much amount it they still have their hands full currently.
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Yes, to date, Trump has mysteriously* about faced on his platform. It looks desperate, imo, to kidnap heads of states…and moving the goalposts on why..

Russia is starting to realize that we live in a vast world…the amount of resources it takes to influence multiple spheres. I agree…regardless of their agreements/alliances, I feel Russia is in more of a defensive posture. But, I’m not so sure we aren’t either…even though it looks the opposite.
 
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Pacer92 said:
Yes, to date, Trump has mysteriously* about faced on his platform. It looks desperate, imo, to kidnap heads of states…and moving the goalposts on why..

Russia is starting to realize that we live in a vast world…the amount of resources it takes to influence multiple spheres. I agree…regardless of their agreements/alliances, I feel Russia is in more of a defensive posture. But, I’m not so sure we aren’t either…even though it looks the opposite.
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How so?
 
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As long as you don't have nukes Trumps ready to help fight for freedom, unless there's other motives. Feel sorry for Ukraine they just fighting for freedom against the wrong opponent.
 
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TVOLS said:
As long as you don't have nukes Trumps ready to help fight for freedom, unless there's other motives. Feel sorry for Ukraine they just fighting for freedom against the wrong opponent.
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Everyone screams, "freedom!!!!!!".

unless there's other motives
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They'll get their puppets and eventually that probably won't work out either, rinse and repeat.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
How so?
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President of peace? I mean the list is already lengthy. Venezuela, Ukraine, Iran, Greenland/Denmark. This country’s infrastructure is 40 years behind, 45 million illegals here, people can’t afford housing and basic necessities…how about that being the focus instead of reimbursing Chevron, Blackrock, etc. for getting him elected?
 
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Pacer92 said:
President of peace? I mean the list is already lengthy. Venezuela, Ukraine, Iran, Greenland/Denmark. This country’s infrastructure is 40 years behind, 45 million illegals here, people can’t afford housing and basic necessities…how about that being the focus instead of reimbursing Chevron, Blackrock, etc. for getting him elected?
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You mean you don't want to take care of Israel forever?

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NorthDallas40 said:
Ok I watched the video this is a bit of a stretch. By and large the majority of the flags flown were the Iranian monarchy flags. I counted three Israeli flags. So it’s a major stretch Armstrong move to impart that small minority display on that huge crowd. And no those flying the Israeli flag likely weren’t Iranians. I’d guess they were Jews showing support for Iranian liberation while flying their own flag also. And they were a very very small number of the crowd present.
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Maybe I'd mixed that protest in London with another but I'd noticed quite a few Israeli flags in the crowd, like in the photos below.
www.sopaimages.com

SOPA Images - Gallery - Iranian protest in London calls for end to Islamic Republic and return of monarchy in London, UK

Iranian protesters gathered outside the Iranian Embassy in London following renewed anti-government protests in Iran, calling for the overthrow of the Islamic Republic and the reinstatement of the monarchy under Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Demonstrators waved Iranian and Israeli flags, chanting...
www.sopaimages.com www.sopaimages.com
 
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Pacer92 said:
President of peace? I mean the list is already lengthy. Venezuela, Ukraine, Iran, Greenland/Denmark. This country’s infrastructure is 40 years behind, 45 million illegals here, people can’t afford housing and basic necessities…how about that being the focus instead of reimbursing Chevron, Blackrock, etc. for getting him elected?
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I guess I'll ask here. When did he promise no military actions? Have you read my posts in the Venezuela thread from this morning? It sounds like he's pretty much doing what he said he was planning on doing--right or wrong, no matter how one feels about it.
 
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