Iran

[Rickyvol77]

Looks like a Democrat memo went out with new talking points. Every major Dem is posting on X pro-Jewish anti-Hamas/Iran terror groups messaging.

 

[rekinhavoc]

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/iran-protests-death/2026/01/10/id/1241578/

 

[EasternVol]

You forgot the ISIS part where they come in next. People are oversimplifying how the middle east works.

There's going to be a power vacuum for sure. I hope the aftermath works out well for the people. Not holding my breath.

 

[theFallGuy]

You forgot the ISIS part where they come in next. People are oversimplifying how the middle east works.

I'm pretty sure isis has never had a foothold in Iran and the regime actually took stances against them

 

[LSU-SIU]

I'm pretty sure isis has never had a foothold in Iran and the regime actually took stances against them

True. ISIS was trying to topple the regime. The U.S. helped topple the Syrian government and install Al Qaeda/ISIS there.

 

[Ritzwatch]

There's going to be a power vacuum for sure. I hope the aftermath works out well for the people. Not holding my breath.

@EasternVol & @Persian Vol, your usernames and post histories lead me to conclude that you have a broader familiarity with this area of the world than I.

I am curious what your thoughts are as to what will happen for the people of Iran.

Either your thoughts on what you hope happens, or your thoughts on what will actually happen (if the two are different.)

I admit ignorance on the breadth of potential outcomes or implementation steps.

Also, do you have any recommendations on potential sources of reliable information where we can read up on developments that are outside the “mainstream” western sources? (Perspective matters, after all.)

Thanks for any info you can share.

RW

 

[EasternVol]

@EasternVol & @Persian Vol, your usernames and post histories lead me to conclude that you have a broader familiarity with this area of the world than I.

I am curious what your thoughts are as to what will happen for the people of Iran.

Either your thoughts on what you hope happens, or your thoughts on what will actually happen (if the two are different.)

I admit ignorance on the breadth of potential outcomes or implementation steps.

Also, do you have any recommendations on potential sources of reliable information where we can read up on developments that are outside the “mainstream” western sources? (Perspective matters, after all.)

Thanks for any info you can share.

RW

Thanks but @Persian Vol would be far better able to give an informed answer than me.
What I hope happens is that they get as soon as possible a representative and humane government that works for the good of the people. The reason I say representative is that theocracies and autocracies (their current and previous governments) tend to end up as repressive dictatorships even if they don't start that way. Ultimately the ideal is a government chosen by the people and not outsiders.

 

[VAVol85]

I'm pretty sure isis has never had a foothold in Iran and the regime actually took stances against them

I think you are right. Isis is Sunni. Islam in Iran is Shia. Also ISIS is Arab and Iran is largely Persian. ISIS would not have much of a constituency in Iran.

 

[LSU-SIU]

@EasternVol & @Persian Vol, your usernames and post histories lead me to conclude that you have a broader familiarity with this area of the world than I.

I am curious what your thoughts are as to what will happen for the people of Iran.

Either your thoughts on what you hope happens, or your thoughts on what will actually happen (if the two are different.)

I admit ignorance on the breadth of potential outcomes or implementation steps.

Also, do you have any recommendations on potential sources of reliable information where we can read up on developments that are outside the “mainstream” western sources? (Perspective matters, after all.)

Thanks for any info you can share.

RW

Nobody cares about the people of Iran, anymore than people care about the people of Venezuela, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Europe, Ukraine, Russia, China, etc. The Jews believe that the Iranian regime posed a more danger threat to them, so you are doing their bidding for them. It really is that simple -- good chance that Iran actually goes more radical.

 

[apevol]

Nobody cares about the people of Iran, anymore than people care about the people of Venezuela, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Europe, Ukraine, Russia, China, etc. The Jews believe that the Iranian regime posed a more danger threat to them, so you are doing their bidding for them. It really is that simple -- good chance that Iran actually goes more radical.

nobody asked for your canned response, babushka

 

[Ritzwatch]

Thanks but @Persian Vol would be far better able to give an informed answer than me.
What I hope happens is that they get as soon as possible a representative and humane government that works for the good of the people. The reason I say representative is that theocracies and autocracies (their current and previous governments) tend to end up as dictatorships even if they don't start that way. Ultimately the ideal is a government chosen by the people and not outsiders.

100% agree. I just don’t see how that happens when the machinery of gov has been so closely controlled for 2 generations+.

I don’t see how the society will get structured enough to have a chance to chose their own leadership without outside help. Once that “help” arrives, I fear the outside influence will closely follow.

At this point, my best hope is that whoever “helps” design the processes and systems that chose new leadership is actually aligned with the people’s choice. Even then, the opposition is going to cry foul.

 

[LSU-SIU]

100% agree. I just don’t see how that happens when the machinery of gov has been so closely controlled for 2 generations+.

I don’t see how the society will get structured enough to have a chance to chose their own leadership without outside help. Once that “help” arrives, I fear the outside influence will closely follow.

At this point, my best hope is that whoever “helps” design the processes and systems that chose new leadership is actually aligned with the people’s choice. Even then, the opposition is going to cry foul.

Actually, its the opposite, the U.S. has historically not wanted these people to elect who they want -- that is why puppets.

 

[MAD]

Looks like a Democrat memo went out with new talking points. Every major Dem is posting on X pro-Jewish anti-Hamas/Iran terror groups messaging.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Nobody cares about the people of Iran, anymore than people care about the people of Venezuela, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Europe, Ukraine, Russia, China, etc. The Jews believe that the Iranian regime posed a more danger threat to them, so you are doing their bidding for them. It really is that simple -- good chance that Iran actually goes more radical.

I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean institutionally, or do you mean individually?

Individually, I’d say that the fact that I asked about the people of Iran is at least some evidence that I care, and the fact that Eastern, a poster with whom I have frequently disagreed, responded with his/her thoughts shows care as well.

Institutionally, I can see your point. The people are, unfortunately, no more than Soylent Green to the levers of power.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean institutionally, or do you mean individually?

Individually, I’d say that the fact that I asked about the people of Iran is at least some evidence that I care, and the fact that Eastern, a poster with whom I have frequently disagreed, responded with his/her thoughts shows care as well.

Institutionally, I can see your point. The people are, unfortunately, no more than Soylent Green to the levers of power.

What I mean is the U.S., and generally Americans. You may care to a degree, but your opinion is going to be meaningless, just like mine.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Actually, its the opposite, the U.S. has historically not wanted these people to elect who they want -- that is why puppets.

When you say “historically”, what do you mean? I know we were involved in the 1950’s with giving the Shah more power (after a series of chaos with the PM/Parliament system during-post WWII, but the Shah did his thing until 1979. Then, Islamo-state.

Puppet (singular- the Shah) I understand, Puppets (plural), I don’t. Am I missing something? (Again, confessing my relative ignorance on Iranian history, but trying to learn if I am missing something important.)

 

[Ritzwatch]

What I mean is the U.S., and generally Americans. You may care to a degree, but your opinion is going to be meaningless, just like mine.

True enough.

 

[LSU-SIU]

When you say “historically”, what do you mean? I know we were involved in the 1950’s with giving the Shah more power (after a series of chaos with the PM/Parliament system during-post WWII, but the Shah did his thing until 1979. Then, Islamo-state.

Puppet (singular- the Shah) I understand, Puppets (plural), I don’t. Am I missing something? (Again, confessing my relative ignorance on Iranian history, but trying to learn if I am missing something important.)

See the last 50-60 years U.S. foreign policy -- they just hadn't gotten to Iran yet. Apparently, the Jews had enough.

 

[tim]

Nobody cares about the people of Iran, anymore than people care about the people of Venezuela, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Europe, Ukraine, Russia, China, etc. The Jews believe that the Iranian regime posed a more danger threat to them, so you are doing their bidding for them. It really is that simple -- good chance that Iran actually goes more radical.

I do

 

[Orange_Crush]

Why do you think the #1 thing socialists/commies do is disarm its citizens?

How else are you going to enforce the confiscation of personal property if you don't start with that personal property?

 

[LSU-SIU]

I do

I figured out decades ago, that if I cared at all -- its best for me to stay out of it. The U.S. isn't helping anyone other than the Jews.

 

[tim]

I figured out decades ago, that if I cared at all -- its best for me to stay out of it. The U.S. isn't helping anyone other than the Jews.

Weird take. Christians in Africa are Jews?

 

[MAD]

Nobody cares about the people of Iran, anymore than people care about the people of Venezuela, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Europe, Ukraine, Russia, China, etc. The Jews believe that the Iranian regime posed a more danger threat to them, so you are doing their bidding for them. It really is that simple -- good chance that Iran actually goes more radical.

puppet master libel

 

[LSU-SIU]

Weird take. Christians in Africa are Jews?

The U.S destabilizes parts of the world and you have the obvious outcome. The U.S. basically assisted people that murdered Americans in mass topple the Syrian government, what next off with the head of the Christians.

 

[MAD]

I figured out decades ago, that if I cared at all -- its best for me to stay out of it. The U.S. isn't helping anyone other than the Jews.

Libelvomit