If we go 8-4?

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WillisWG said:
Not sure we win all 4 but I would be extremely disappointed if we weren't competitive against of them and that includes Bama.
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They will all be close games even Bama, that will be the difference in wining the East or not, if they can win a few close games then they go 10-2 if not 8-4.

7-5 or worse means Dobbs got hurt or something else disasterous happened.
 
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KBVol said:
Hey 79, you gotta stop with that video evidence of Dobbs making all those excellent throws.....screws up the narrative of all the anti-Dobbites who claim he can't hit the broadside of a barn.
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Dobbs actually throws as pretty and catchable deep ball as you'll see an NCAA QB put downfield.
 
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sjt18 said:
What on EARTH are you labeling "success" if it isn't wins?
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Of course wins are the ultimate goal. You "seem" to be blind to the effort and growth that must occur before wins are recorded. UT may in fact be there now and we could see a 9 win season or better this year however, to declare that as a must is silly. We all realize that these personal declarations are meaningless however it is frustrating to read such nonsense so I comment. I am sorry that you have such an inflated opinion of yourself that I so easily push your "buttons." Too bad.:)
 
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Come on man... read! I didn't say everything was Fulmer's fault. But he's the one that drove the program into the ditch. DOOLEY nor KIFFIN fixed it... iow's they bear blame for it staying in the ditch... but they didn't put it there.
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As I've said a number of times, Kiffin nor Dooley were good enough to fix UT's football program... but they didn't break it. Fulmer did.

I did read. You said "Fulmer did."

Not gonna argue with you. You and I and everyone else entitled to their opinion. Having an opinion doesn't make you right. That seems to be your motive - to convince everyone you are right.
 
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MedicT said:
Of course wins are the ultimate goal. You "seem" to be blind to the effort and growth that must occur before wins are recorded. UT may in fact be there now and we could see a 9 win season or better this year however, to declare that as a must is silly.
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I have consistently said that 8 is the floor because that is both where the roster "should" be at this point AND because that's where the roster in fact appears to be. ANd then... you go ballistic and read into what I say all sorts of things that I didn't say so you can "win" the argument.

I admit to marveling at how consistently you do this... all because you can't seem to let go of a disagreement we had several months ago where you contrived an "opinion" that you insist on filtering everything through.

We all realize that these personal declarations are meaningless however it is frustrating to read such nonsense so I comment. I am sorry that you have such an inflated opinion of yourself that I so easily push your "buttons." Too bad.:)
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Easily push my buttons? :lolabove: Who has the inflated opinion of themselves? Then again, who has made it their mission to tell folks around here that they actually meant the opposite of what they said... because you KNOW better? That is YOU.
 
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mmoosem said:
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Come on man... read! I didn't say everything was Fulmer's fault. But he's the one that drove the program into the ditch. DOOLEY nor KIFFIN fixed it... iow's they bear blame for it staying in the ditch... but they didn't put it there.
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As I've said a number of times, Kiffin nor Dooley were good enough to fix UT's football program... but they didn't break it. Fulmer did.

I did read. You said "Fulmer did."

Not gonna argue with you. You and I and everyone else entitled to their opinion. Having an opinion doesn't make you right. That seems to be your motive - to convince everyone you are right.
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Yes Fulmer DID drive the program into the ditch. That doesn't absolve Dooley or Kiffin of their failures... it just recognizes the fact that the slump UT has been in... was started by Fulmer's decline and failure.

You don't state your opinion here in order to influence others? If so... then why post your opinion at all?

I have never said that having an opinion makes it right. But having an opinion better supported by facts and reason... makes your opinion a "better" opinion that is more likely to be true.
 
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sjt18 said:
I have consistently said that 8 is the floor because that is both where the roster "should" be at this point AND because that's where the roster in fact appears to be. ANd then... you go ballistic and read into what I say all sorts of things that I didn't say so you can "win" the argument.

I admit to marveling at how consistently you do this... all because you can't seem to let go of a disagreement we had several months ago where you contrived an "opinion" that you insist on filtering everything through.



Easily push my buttons? :lolabove: Who has the inflated opinion of themselves? Then again, who has made it their mission to tell folks around here that they actually meant the opposite of what they said... because you KNOW better? That is YOU.
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Oops, I pushed it again.:lolabove: :eek:lol:
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes Fulmer DID drive the program into the ditch. That doesn't absolve Dooley or Kiffin of their failures... it just recognizes the fact that the slump UT has been in... was started by Fulmer's decline and failure.

You don't state your opinion here in order to influence others? If so... then why post your opinion at all?

I have never said that having an opinion makes it right. But having an opinion better supported by facts and reason... makes your opinion a "better" opinion that is more likely to be true.
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:eek:lol: Whatever dude. :eek:lol:

GBO
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
8-4 is what I'm predicting.

Wins

Bowling Green
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Missouri
Arkansas
Western Carolina
North Texas

Losses

Oklahoma
Florida
Georgia
Alabama
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I don't think we lose to OU, especially the way they ended last season and having them at home. I think we lose to Ala, Ark, GA, Mizzou and UF. And just putting Mizzou and UF on there until we can prove we can beat either. Think we have the better team than Mizzou and UF but for some reason we continue to find ways to lose to Florida. I do think we can beat GA, Mizzou, UF and Ark. Will just depend on if we actually do it. Don't see any just dominant SEC team that is a 100% guaranteed loss like in past yes. Ala lost the majority of their yards and points and their secondary struggled stopping the pass. Think Ark could be our toughest game or at worse the second hardest. JMO but this is how I would rate our toughest games.

1a. Ala
1b. Ark
2. GA
3. Mizzou And UF..( just because we can't seem to beat either)
4. Okl
5. SCe.

After that I will group the rest as games we have no business losing. Almost put SCe in there but with Spurrier you just never know.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes Fulmer DID drive the program into the ditch. That doesn't absolve Dooley or Kiffin of their failures... it just recognizes the fact that the slump UT has been in... was started by Fulmer's decline and failure.

You don't state your opinion here in order to influence others? If so... then why post your opinion at all?

I have never said that having an opinion makes it right. But having an opinion better supported by facts and reason... makes your opinion a "better" opinion that is more likely to be true.
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Agreed. Fulmer started the decline then Kiffin and especially Dooley finished it off. Think Fulmer got complacent and our recruiting started dropping off. When Cut came back I think it helped light a spark and if Cut had stayed at UT and doesn't take the Duke job then Fulmer is still our HC unless he retired, which I doubt he would have. Fulmer was just a different Coach when Cut was his OC.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
I don't think we lose to OU, especially the way they ended last season and having them at home. I think we lose to Ala, Ark, GA, Mizzou and UF. And just putting Mizzou and UF on there until we can prove we can beat either. Think we have the better team than Mizzou and UF but for some reason we continue to find ways to lose to Florida. I do think we can beat GA, Mizzou, UF and Ark. Will just depend on if we actually do it. Don't see any just dominant SEC team that is a 100% guaranteed loss like in past yes. Ala lost the majority of their yards and points and their secondary struggled stopping the pass. Think Ark could be our toughest game or at worse the second hardest. JMO but this is how I would rate our toughest games.

1a. Ala
1b. Ark
2. GA
3. Mizzou And UF..( just because we can't seem to beat either)
4. Okl
5. SCe.

After that I will group the rest as games we have no business losing. Almost put SCe in there but with Spurrier you just never know.
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Have you looked at Mizzou's roster and production losses? Not sure if you've seen it so I'll repeat just one point- their leading WR is a true Soph with 5 career receptions. UT has a talent advantage over MU. They had one last year and probably the year before in terms of just "talent" without accounting for development. Now... the gap is wide.

UT should lose to neither MU or Ark. Bielema has had the same amount of time as Jones. By no one's measure has he had as much recruiting success. A loss to these two teams would justify serious questions about Jones' ability to compete in the SEC.

IMHO, UF goes to the wire. The teams are now closely matched in talent with UT having an advantage in experience and time with the coaching staff.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
Agreed. Fulmer started the decline then Kiffin and especially Dooley finished it off. Think Fulmer got complacent and our recruiting started dropping off. When Cut came back I think it helped light a spark and if Cut had stayed at UT and doesn't take the Duke job then Fulmer is still our HC unless he retired, which I doubt he would have. Fulmer was just a different Coach when Cut was his OC.
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Absolutely correct. I think it went further than just Cut's coaching ability though. Without Cut, Fulmer's team discipline both on and especially off the field went downhill. You and I have both been here long enough to remember being a perennial competitor for the Fulmer Cup. Glad that embarrassment has ended. If Kiffin and Dooley did anything "good", it would be improving off the field discipline. It wasn't perfect but was much quieter. UT is very "quiet" now.
 
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I don't think that a loss to Ark would bring into question a concern on the coaching ability of CBJ. What I see is the Ark game setting up as the perfect trap game after Fl and before Ga.

I think we go 5-1 before our open week with the loss to Ark. The second half of the season I see us going 4-2 with injury being a factor in our second loss of this half.

I do anticipate the team being able to play with every team we meet this year.

Keeping in mind anything can and will happen in college football I see 8-4 the bottom number barring major injury to key (QB) players or lack of o-line development.

As long as I continue to see improvement in play I will continue to be positive about the future of the program. I do think this will be a break out season but February 2015 is a little early to be drawing a line in the sand on this staff.

Lets watch the season play out and then review where we are as a program.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. I said what I said. If he had not been erratic then there would be no question whether he would be in the future. But since there is and he has absolutely NOTHING returning at WR... there is reason to suspect that he might be.



If you feel that looking like an abject idiot is "fun" then have at it.

You constantly try to read between the lines and twist what people say into strawmen that you can then burn down while beating your chest. Oh, then for good measure, you accuse others of having "ego problems"... all the while attempting to condescend to them.
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Lot of words. :acute:

:boredom:
 
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Old Man Orange said:
A lot of words for someone’s SWAG.

Scientific
Wild
A**
Guess
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He expects his "SWAG" to be taken seriously and thus opens himself up to the ridicule he receives. Give anyone enough time and if so desired, they can find data that supports any opinion imaginable. That is what he does. He comes up with his end point first then finds data to support it rather than using information to form a logical conclusion. His reaction when called to task is VERY entertaining.:)
 
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sjt18 said:
Absolutely correct. I think it went further than just Cut's coaching ability though. Without Cut, Fulmer's team discipline both on and especially off the field went downhill. You and I have both been here long enough to remember being a perennial competitor for the Fulmer Cup. Glad that embarrassment has ended. If Kiffin and Dooley did anything "good", it would be improving off the field discipline. It wasn't perfect but was much quieter. UT is very "quiet" now.
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:question: Gotta ask ya ............... With your vast knowledge of all things concerning UT football and the NCAA as a whole, why are you wasting your time and energy arguing with the posters on this board? You obviously have the knowledge/temperament to parlay that expertise into a radio call-in show with Danny Kanell and Paul Finebaum!!! Why limit yourself to just this Forum? :question:
 
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mmoosem said:
:question: Gotta ask ya ............... With your vast knowledge of all things concerning UT football and the NCAA as a whole, why are you wasting your time and energy arguing with the posters on this board? You obviously have the knowledge/temperament to parlay that expertise into a radio call-in show with Danny Kanell and Paul Finebaum!!! Why limit yourself to just this Forum? :question:
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I know MedicT.
You, sir, are no MedicT.
 
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Originally Posted by mmoosem View Post
Gotta ask ya ............... With your vast knowledge of all things concerning UT football and the NCAA as a whole, why are you wasting your time and energy arguing with the posters on this board? You obviously have the knowledge/temperament to parlay that expertise into a radio call-in show with Danny Kanell and Paul Finebaum!!! Why limit yourself to just this Forum?


Doyle Hargraves said:
I know MedicT.
You, sir, are no MedicT.
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:huh:
 
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mmoosem said:
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Originally Posted by mmoosem View Post
Gotta ask ya ............... With your vast knowledge of all things concerning UT football and the NCAA as a whole, why are you wasting your time and energy arguing with the posters on this board? You obviously have the knowledge/temperament to parlay that expertise into a radio call-in show with Danny Kanell and Paul Finebaum!!! Why limit yourself to just this Forum?




:huh:
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Umm.
Maybe you are.
 
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