If Ainge plays even a little better

#27
#27
lord please dont tell me your actually gonna defend casey freakin clausen...:ermm:
Coming from the person who is upset that Coker was suspended for a half against PSU because he didn't go to class or whatever it was that CPF specified to him that he needed to do or he would be punished.

On another note, what didn't Casey do that makes him a horrible QB?
 
#28
#28
:lolabove: So True, the only thing I wonder is if he'll be bald by the age of 22 like the rest of them.
I bet my money on that jimmy will lose his hair during a hair styling accident. The dude probably puts a half of a pound of hair spray on his hair.
 
#29
#29
lord please dont tell me your actually gonna defend casey freakin clausen...:ermm:

I loved watching CC play. He was not the most gifted player to ever wear orange but he gave it his all. 34-10 as a starter (14-1 on the road) and 2nd in UT passing yds and completions.
 
#30
#30
I loved watching CC play. He was not the most gifted player to ever wear orange but he gave it his all. 34-10 as a starter (14-1 on the road) and 2nd in UT passing yds and completions.
Exactly. Casey is one of my favorite players that has worn the orange and white.
 
#31
#31
Coming from the person who is upset that Coker was suspended for a half against PSU because he didn't go to class or whatever it was that CPF specified to him that he needed to do or he would be punished.

On another note, what didn't Casey do that makes him a horrible QB?

In 02 against Florida he looked alot like Grossman did this year in the Super Bowl. The fumble in 03 against Georgia hurt him also. The 3 picks against Alabama in 02 hurt him too. He won alot of games, but he also had Witten and Stallworth on that offense with him. He was a good QB that seemed to have his worst games against our biggest rivals.

But he did win in the Swamp so I'll give him credit where credit is due. Beating Miami at the Orange Bowl was awesome, but the D played lights out that day. You can't give him all the credit for winning or losing those games.
 
#32
#32
In 02 against Florida he looked alot like Grossman did this year in the Super Bowl. The fumble in 03 against Georgia hurt him also. The 3 picks against Alabama in 02 hurt him too. He won alot of games, but he also had Witten and Stallworth on that offense with him. He was a good QB that seemed to have his worst games against our biggest rivals.

But he did win in the Swamp so I'll give him credit where credit is due. Beating Miami at the Orange Bowl was awesome, but the D played lights out that day. You can't give him all the credit for winning or losing those games.

He was also the QB when we layed the smackdown on Michigan in the Citrus Bowl one year too...
 
#33
#33
He was also the QB when we layed the smackdown on Michigan in the Citrus Bowl one year too...

Yeah left that out. I just did that off the top of my head so cut me a little slack. Witten had a huge game but could not have done it without CC throwing him the ball. The reason I put those up there is because alot of people don't realize how much winning he actually did while he was here. He beat Florida in the Swamp something Peyton never did.
 
#34
#34
But when UT lost, Clausen usually looked horrible and he was/is the scapegoat for the years he played.
 
#35
#35
In 02 against Florida he looked alot like Grossman did this year in the Super Bowl. The fumble in 03 against Georgia hurt him also. The 3 picks against Alabama in 02 hurt him too. He won alot of games, but he also had Witten and Stallworth on that offense with him. He was a good QB that seemed to have his worst games against our biggest rivals.

But he did win in the Swamp so I'll give him credit where credit is due. Beating Miami at the Orange Bowl was awesome, but the D played lights out that day. You can't give him all the credit for winning or losing those games.
I agree with all of those points, especially the part where you said you can't give him all the credit for winning or losing those games. Clausen seems to always catch the heat for losing games, but never gets credit for winning games.

Sidenote: The only thing that I don't agree about in your post is the fumble in '03 against UGA. It wasn't Clausen's fault, it was an O-Lineman's fault. He released to a LB instead of blocking the D-Lineman and allowed him into the back field and caused the fumble.
 
#37
#37
I agree with all of those points, especially the part where you said you can't give him all the credit for winning or losing those games. Clausen seems to always catch the heat for losing games, but never gets credit for winning games.

Sidenote: The only thing that I don't agree about in your post is the fumble in '03 against UGA. It wasn't Clausen's fault, it was an O-Lineman's fault. He released to a LB instead of blocking the D-Lineman and allowed him into the back field and caused the fumble.

OK, all I remember was complete disgust with the oucome of the play. I felt physically ill to my stomach
 
#39
#39
Yeah, that was the most demoralizing play I have ever witnessed in my 21 years of existence.

Bad memories. But back to Ainge, no I doubt he will put the numbers necessary to be in the Heisman race. He lost alot of weapons and the O seems to be somewhat rebuilding and trying to find an identity this year. Conservative play and great D is what the coaches will want in the upcoming season. It's not what I want, but it is a realist point of view.
 
#42
#42
I typically stay away from discussions about the h-trophy, but I had an idea. It would be great for Eric to be a clear cut favorite, winning all the awards and such. But have him snub the downtown athletic club. Have him on CBS after a big game saying that trophy has lost all of it's value and he'd rather go see a movie that weekend.

I know it won't happen, but that would be best possible h-trophy outcome in my opinion.
 
#43
#43
Yeah, McFadden and Hart and/or Henne will be the front runners this coming season. Ainge will probably have to throw for 5,000 yards, 70 TD's and -4 INTs to have a shot at 2nd.


-4 ints? Is that when the defense throws it back to Ainge? Kinda like a "catch and release"? :crazy:
 
#44
#44
I think it is hilarious that just because Woodson led his team to a National Title and won the Heisman that Any UT player that has a good year will get screwed out of the Heisman.

For Ainge to win, UT would have to lose at most 2 games, and I don't see that happening. And with new receivers, I can't see his numbers being good enough either.
 
#46
#46
the Heisman doesn't get any respect anymore anywas. (I mean Eric Crouch? Cmon now.) If Ainge is better than Manning and Johny Majors was at UT, then sure maybe he'll win. But first we have to win 12 or 13 games, then we have to assissinate the West Coast and Midwest voters. :)
 
#47
#47
I think it is hilarious that just because Woodson led his team to a National Title and won the Heisman that Any UT player that has a good year will get screwed out of the Heisman.

For Ainge to win, UT would have to lose at most 2 games, and I don't see that happening. And with new receivers, I can't see his numbers being good enough either.

Last time I checked... DBs dont win games for you, the QB does.
 
#48
#48
I think it is hilarious that just because Woodson led his team to a National Title and won the Heisman that Any UT player that has a good year will get screwed out of the Heisman.

For Ainge to win, UT would have to lose at most 2 games, and I don't see that happening. And with new receivers, I can't see his numbers being good enough either.

If Tennessee's adopted son could not beat out a DB, how can a west coast kid do it? :p
 
#49
#49
But really, his stats will not be up there and UT would have to go undefeated for him to get enough attention,
 
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