I think we turn it around and win 6

#27
#27
To recycle a forty year old "joke":

Tennessee lost on Saturday because they have a drug problem.
Really?
Yeah. Ga State drug 'em all over the field.
 
#28
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Fayettvol said:
The East is so weak this year and i think our talent on the roster will start to show up soon. Recruiting rankings dont lie just hang in their men.
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Not a crazy argument, but I need to see the BYU game first to see if we show up.
 
#29
#29
The bad news is that UT really stank it up last Saturday. We can't tell if that's an aberration or just who UT is right now.

The good news is that Mizzou appears to be closer to what I thought they were than what many of you and most talking heads thought. USCe doesn't look good and won't have Bentley for a while. Vandy appears to be back to being Vandy. UK didn't look very good.

You hate to measure the prospects for your season by how bad other teams appear to be... but that seems to be where we are.
 
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GAVol said:
Not a crazy argument, but I need to see the BYU game first to see if we show up.
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Correct. The coaches and players and team as whole have to take this thing one game , one week at a time. If they truly overlooked GA State, we should get a real look at what the team will be the rest of the season on Saturday night.
 
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This arrogance of "we are UT we should win 8" is what got us in this mess. This is a ground up project and until we start treating it like that then we will continue to spin wheels.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I can't people are dumb enough to let one game be a sure fire guarantee of what will and what won't happen the rest of the schedule. So many people here that "know" what will happen but still in the poor house cause they can't use that knowledge to win the lotto.

My goodness!
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Once again, this isn't one game. This is the last three games the Pruitt has coached here. We call that a pattern.
 
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After Saturday I've become a Debbie Downer, seriously...... someone pick another team in the SEC that would lose to Georgia State the way we lost. I hope we win the rest but apathy has me, I am guessing two just because the pigskin is not round
 
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Fayettvol said:
The East is so weak this year and i think our talent on the roster will start to show up soon. Recruiting rankings dont lie just hang in their men.
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"Weak" is pretty subjective.

Vandy lost to Gerogia who is head and shoulders above everyone else in the division right now.
Florida looked bad against Miami....but still won and Miami at least is a known program in an P5 conference.
SC lost against UNC and kinda blew it, and lost their QB a while; but again UNC is at least a P5 team.
Kentucky beat an average MAC team at home and didn't look great, but then again they do this pretty much every season. Of course we still beat them last year so this actually might be a W.
Missouri lost at Wyoming. Wyoming isn't great but they have been a pretty good MWC team in recent memory.

So yeah overall seems weak but when you compare all their games to ours, ours is by far the worst performance of the weekend. So yeah we'll probably beat some of these guys but at the same time they're all saying the same thing about us right now.
 
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orangerush said:
The East may be weak, unfortunately we are the weakest
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We will be lucky to win 4 games, if you saw the lineups on D alone, they were atrocious, that is strictly coaching and we made no adjustments. AND YES THE SKY HAS FALLEN and I can't see the light at the end of this tunnel. 10 years away from even sniffing an SEC championship.
 
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Sara Clark said:
If you would like to read....

Vols find few answers in offensive line rotation
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After reading that I feel worse about the offensive coaching staff. The fact that they don't comprehend that an offensive line, only plays well as a unit, and that if you don't practice the line as a unit, it will not improve blows my mind.

I won't be surprised one bit, if they come out on Saturday against BYU and try to rotate them again.

Did find this part interesting though for the people that were still complaining about oline protection being a problem:

In terms of the group's collective performance, Pruitt noted how well the Vols protected quarterback Jarrett Guarantano until allowing four sacks in the second half (only one was truly down to an offensive line mistake)
“All the guys that played at times played really well,” he said. “I think for the first 55 plays of the game, we didn’t give up a sack or a quarterback pressure. The last 20 plays of the game, we gave up four sacks. Not all that’s on the offensive line.
 
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BeardedVol said:
After reading that I feel worse about the offensive coaching staff. The fact that they don't comprehend that an offensive line, only plays well as a unit, and that if you don't practice the line as a unit, it will not improve blows my mind.

I won't be surprised one bit, if they come out on Saturday against BYU and try to rotate them again.

Did find this part interesting though for the people that were still complaining about oline protection being a problem:

In terms of the group's collective performance, Pruitt noted how well the Vols protected quarterback Jarrett Guarantano until allowing four sacks in the second half (only one was truly down to an offensive line mistake)
“All the guys that played at times played really well,” he said. “I think for the first 55 plays of the game, we didn’t give up a sack or a quarterback pressure. The last 20 plays of the game, we gave up four sacks. Not all that’s on the offensive line.
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Agree, I wasn't left feeling better. It's my opinion, if he rotates like he did last week, we lose. He better figure things out "early" this week and roll with it. JMO
 
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BeardedVol said:
After reading that I feel worse about the offensive coaching staff. The fact that they don't comprehend that an offensive line, only plays well as a unit, and that if you don't practice the line as a unit, it will not improve blows my mind.

I won't be surprised one bit, if they come out on Saturday against BYU and try to rotate them again.

Did find this part interesting though for the people that were still complaining about oline protection being a problem:

In terms of the group's collective performance, Pruitt noted how well the Vols protected quarterback Jarrett Guarantano until allowing four sacks in the second half (only one was truly down to an offensive line mistake)
“All the guys that played at times played really well,” he said. “I think for the first 55 plays of the game, we didn’t give up a sack or a quarterback pressure. The last 20 plays of the game, we gave up four sacks. Not all that’s on the offensive line.
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A certain overpaid coach is glad his ole buddy has his back unti the end:

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I don't dispute that there is talent in Knoxville, but I'm beginning to wonder if there is any coaching worth a damn. If Pruitt hasn't learned to coach by now, it ain't gonna happen.
 
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We have all seen this show before, so based on past experience, we are able to make a confident prediction in how our team will react. It's really not complicated. Oh, and if you think it is based on only one game.... shame on you.
 
#47
#47
VolInNW said:
It’s a lot of the same players. And I think the broader point is that it might be more a product of culture and coaching.

We shall see.
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So lets look at this then. Its a lot of the same roster, but how many freshmen played on Saturday. A lot...... The more everyone talks about this "pattern" the more it looks apparent that Pruitt's guys are not the problem.

At the end of the day, Pruitt said on national tv that he will recruit 25 guys at a time that want to be here and that can take on the likes of Alabama. He can only do that in increments of 25.... That takes time.

And sorry, but I'm willing to take a wash on the first two seasons before I judge him 100%. Sure a reasonable expectation for season 2 should be no worse than last year (5-7). Anything worse would be upsetting, but if recruiting doesn't crater, I really don't care about this season. This isn't the average job. The previous coach always has recruiting issues in terms of number of bodies in positions. In Kiffin's case, a lot of his recruits were in trouble with the law or couldn't cut it in the class room. Dooley couldn't recruit lineman even if he had money to spend to do it. Butch then doubled down on that.

If Pruitt does worse than 5-7 and recruiting absolutely craters, I will then reserve my judgement that a move might be necessary. However, we have tons of talent on the coaching staff alone and they didn't just get dumb overnight. Just get thru the first two years and then 2020 is when you have an overwhelming majority of your players with a good chunk being upperclassmen. That's when I will judge a coach honestly.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
"Weak" is pretty subjective.

Vandy lost to Gerogia who is head and shoulders above everyone else in the division right now.
Florida looked bad against Miami....but still won and Miami at least is a known program in an P5 conference.
SC lost against UNC and kinda blew it, and lost their QB a while; but again UNC is at least a P5 team.
Kentucky beat an average MAC team at home and didn't look great, but then again they do this pretty much every season. Of course we still beat them last year so this actually might be a W.
Missouri lost at Wyoming. Wyoming isn't great but they have been a pretty good MWC team in recent memory.

So yeah overall seems weak but when you compare all their games to ours, ours is by far the worst performance of the weekend. So yeah we'll probably beat some of these guys but at the same time they're all saying the same thing about us right now.
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But Missouri is gonna pick up right where Lock left off 😂
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
We have all seen this show before, so based on past experience, we are able to make a confident prediction in how our team will react. It's really not complicated. Oh, and if you think it is based on only one game.... shame on you.
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Well this team and roster and staff have only played 1 game together so yeah, you can only base it on one game.
 
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#50
IF, big if here, but if they get their act together I can see 6-7 wins. That said, when you give up a gimmy game like Georgia St. you really better hope that it doesn't come down to beating Missouri and Vandy to get bowl eligible.
 
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