I lost the locker room over NIL payments last year

[LSU-SIU]

Most of the money IS coming from outside the schools TECHNICALLY but it's obvious the school is very involved. You're just ignoring that. NIL would dry straight up with negotiated salaries of substance for players coming from the team. That's as much a ruse as amateur athletics was at elite schools before NIL. NIL is a bandaid to fully pay athletes, a poor bandaid. VERY VERY VERY few college athletes have real serious NIL value.

Tampering exists in the NFL, NBA, and MLB but not a whole lot. The owners are in agreement that it's not good for the leagues. And by all means NOT ALL SCHOOLS NEED TO GO PRO. I envision about 40-50, at most in football. More or less might need to join in basketball.

Comparing athletics to fast food where literally ANYONE can work shows a lack of understanding of the talent of the workers. It's the scarcity of talent that gives us the salaries we see in pro leagues. People not wanting to work at all gives the chaos in fast food because those jobs don't require specialized skills.

Its exactly the same you are emotionally attached, its just a business. Talent is relative, what you are trying to do is implement a strategy that limits the market because that is what you want i.e caps, but in this case caps wouldn't make sense... what next a draft?

Tampering exists in the NFL, NBA, and MLB but not a whole lot.

But you will have other leagues and the traditional pro leagues - same thing. You still have to compete. Tampering among the leagues.

Most of the money IS coming from outside the schools TECHNICALLY but it's obvious the school is very involved.

Its irrelevant, the vast majority of the money is not going to come from the school so the cap would be immaterial, if anything it would hurt the ones in the league as the school would be capped, a non-league school could implement the payments. What you are really doing is setting up a greater market for the players with no real benefit to the league schools - not really.

- no draft
- no real cap
- assuming the ability to limit player movement but you are competing with non-league so the players could transfer outside
- tampering would still be a thing just like it is today
- players would be consider "employees" which subject them to other State and Federal Acts

Exactly what did you "fix"?

NIL is a bandaid to fully pay athletes, a poor bandaid. VERY VERY VERY few college athletes have real serious NIL value.

The NIL is a scam to pretend all these college coaches and college administrators shouldn't be in jail.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Its exactly the same you are emotionally attached, its just a business. Talent is relative, what you are trying to do is implement a strategy that limits the market because that is what you want i.e caps, but in this case caps wouldn't make sense... what next a draft?



But you will have other leagues and the traditional pro leagues - same thing. You still have to compete. Tampering among the leagues.



Its irrelevant, the vast majority of the money is not going to come from the school so the cap would be immaterial, if anything it would hurt the ones in the league as the school would be capped, a non-league school could implement the payments. What you are really doing is setting up a greater market for the players with no real benefit to the league schools - not really.

- no draft
- no real cap
- assuming the ability to limit player movement but you are competing with non-league so the players could transfer outside
- tampering would still be a thing just like it is today
- players would be consider "employees" which subject them to other State and Federal Acts

Exactly what did you "fix"?



The NIL is a scam to pretend all these college coaches and college administrators shouldn't be in jail.

Yes, a draft. I'm not talking about school or traditional college sports surviving, I'm talking about what works in pro sports to make them successful. Lots of leagues don't for competitive reasons.

It would be great if Congress would provide a specific age related Antitrust Exemption for college but I'm not holding my breath.

Yes, it should look EXACTLY like the NFL or actually closer to minor league baseball in some ways.

You're mistaking me for a diehard, traditional college football fan. I'm no longer that. I'm hopeful for a future of his good Saturdays with quality football and guys on the field who get their share just like the guys on Sunday.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

It's no longer college football, is semi pro football played at colleges and universities.

This is hilarous.

It stopped being college football decades ago when it became mega big business. Everyone sat back and didn't have a fraction of the reaction about more bowls, more regular season games, conference expansion/changing, conference championship games, major bowl payouts, coaches making truckloads of money, and tv/media contracts making billions. But now when the players start wanting in (at least out in the open and legally), so many lose their minds and whine about how it's no longer college football.

ROFL get bent, this train left the station about 40 years ago at least, and now everyone has a problem when it reaches the conclusion it was going to hit. It's laughable the pearl clutching. Does it need to be regulated? Sure, but paying the players isn't the problem.

 

[CobbWebb71]

Head coaches have to have help with this stuff or it can/will go sideways really quick. Having a GM seems the way to go.

How the rise of the college football GM started in a windowless room in Tuscaloosa

The title of personnel director or general manager might not have existed 15 years ago, but now, college football can't function without them.

www.espn.com

Damn Willis!!
You just hit on something that I had not thought about.
That is forward thinking my friend and will probably, eventually become reality.
Good thing for Heup, Volnation is full of armchair GMs from which to choose...

 

[CobbWebb71]

This is hilarous.

It stopped being college football decades ago when it became mega big business. Everyone sat back and didn't have a fraction of the reaction about more bowls, more regular season games, conference expansion/changing, conference championship games, major bowl payouts, coaches making truckloads of money, and tv/media contracts making billions. But now when the players start wanting in (at least out in the open and legally), so many lose their minds and whine about how it's no longer college football.

ROFL get bent, this train left the station about 40 years ago at least, and now everyone has a problem when it reaches the conclusion it was going to hit. It's laughable the pearl clutching. Does it need to be regulated? Sure, but paying the players isn't the problem.

Whoa bud, I’ve been b!tching about all of the above for quite a while now.
College football went to for me, way before NIL.
You were either naive or dumb, if you couldn’t see the direction this thing was headed.
I remember when Fulmer inked his big contract, thinking this is about to get out of hand.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

And in exactly one month, the overwhelming majority of people here will continue to watch and enjoy college football as they always have.

 

[VolBallGuy]

Pay the kids in gold. That will confuse everyone.

 

[WillisWG]

Pay the kids in gold. That will confuse everyone.

Just invent a crypto coin $SEC or $VOL$

 

[LSU-SIU]

Yes, a draft. I'm not talking about school or traditional college sports surviving, I'm talking about what works in pro sports to make them successful. Lots of leagues don't for competitive reasons.

It would be great if Congress would provide a specific age related Antitrust Exemption for college but I'm not holding my breath.

Yes, it should look EXACTLY like the NFL or actually closer to minor league baseball in some ways.

You're mistaking me for a diehard, traditional college football fan. I'm no longer that. I'm hopeful for a future of his good Saturdays with quality football and guys on the field who get their share just like the guys on Sunday.

It doesn't matter what you are, what you are suggesting doesn't appear to do much of anything. A draft will not work as you will have colleges which won't be part of the league, they players can go where the money is. The whole premise of what you are suggesting doesn't solve any of the issues you have pointed out, in fact, I would say it will make it worse. It won't be like the NFL or minor league baseball. You basically can't control the market because a vast portion of the schools won't even be involved as they're not going to want to classify the players as employees. I don't understand why everyone is busy trying to fix someone else's business. Yes, I think you are one of those diehards, which is why you are trying to "fix" something.