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hatvol96

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all the people who claimed Fulmer "had earned the chance" to turn things around after the 2005 trainwreck are happy. That which must be done inevitably should be done immediately. Failing to heed that principle has put Tennessee's program in the tank. All of you who chose to support Fulmer at the expense of the program have gotten exactly what you deserve. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
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hatvol96 said:
all the people who claimed Fulmer "had earned the chance" to turn things around after the 2005 trainwreck are happy. That which must be done inevitably should be done immediately. Failing to heed that principle has put Tennessee's program in the tank. All of you who chose to support Fulmer at the expense of the program have gotten exactly what you deserve. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
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I have eaten my crow and it was sour. I agree 110% with you now hat and want the Hill to change.
 
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hatvol96 said:
all the people who claimed Fulmer "had earned the chance" to turn things around after the 2005 trainwreck are happy. That which must be done inevitably should be done immediately. Failing to heed that principle has put Tennessee's program in the tank. All of you who chose to support Fulmer at the expense of the program have gotten exactly what you deserve. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
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i was just thinking the samething. utvolpj i hope now that you can see how wrong you were and helped destroy a very good program thumb's up champ.:good!: i know they will never admit it hat, but alot of the people on this site are the reason we are now no better than a mid american conference school.
 
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hatvol96 said:
all the people who claimed Fulmer "had earned the chance" to turn things around after the 2005 trainwreck are happy. That which must be done inevitably should be done immediately. Failing to heed that principle has put Tennessee's program in the tank. All of you who chose to support Fulmer at the expense of the program have gotten exactly what you deserve. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
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I think you summed it up best in your 120 minutes thread. I could be wrong but this second 60 minutes may be mandatory for Fulmer. Even wins over GA and AL, unless simply dominant, may not save him this year.
 
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The worst thing is that there are people that are still saying "We lost to a Cal team and UF last year... we turned it around then... we can still"

That just makes me worry that they can vote, drive, drink (probably are already drunk), and other matter of things that carry great liability.
 
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I agree w/ hat, but i think i admitted to this a yr or 2 ago. Hat when are you going to call into Vol Nation Live?
 
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there will be no repeat championship run in 08.

he earned the chance to fix it. He's failed to fix it. it's time.
 
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DC Vol said:
The worst thing is that there are people that are still saying "We lost to a Cal team and UF last year... we turned it around then... we can still"

That just makes me worry that they can vote, drive, drink (probably are already drunk), and other matter of things that carry great liability.
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The BIG difference is, we had a QB that could draw from experience and fundamentals to help play better. We don't have that luxury this year.
 
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hatvol96 said:
all the people who claimed Fulmer "had earned the chance" to turn things around after the 2005 trainwreck are happy. That which must be done inevitably should be done immediately. Failing to heed that principle has put Tennessee's program in the tank. All of you who chose to support Fulmer at the expense of the program have gotten exactly what you deserve. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
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An open letter to the Board of Trustees?

They and those select other boosters are clearly the only ones with a say in the matter. They've not yet changed tunes.

6-6 will force their hand, and right now that appears emminent.
 
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hatvol96 said:
all the people who claimed Fulmer "had earned the chance" to turn things around after the 2005 trainwreck are happy. That which must be done inevitably should be done immediately. Failing to heed that principle has put Tennessee's program in the tank. All of you who chose to support Fulmer at the expense of the program have gotten exactly what you deserve. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
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I have no problem with my decision. People earn opportunities. CPF did so. You don't have to like it but that is my opinion.
 
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I will admit to this as well I thought Fulmer had what it took to get it done and now its pretty obvious that he does not have it anymore. We Need some new blood and some new Ideas! WE NEED HELP!!
 
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I was waiting for this thread from hat. The thing I don't even care anymore. The UF game didn't even bother me. I knew it was coming and I'll watch the Auburn and when we lose badly it won't even ruin my Saturday.
 
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Forget 2005. 2002 should have been the benchmark from which to start the fixing clock. 6 years later, nothing has really changed.
 
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To refresh, that was the year we got blown out by a Ron Zook coached Florida team at home. Or "Zuke" as Bobby Denton was known to call him.
 
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He redeemed himself later in the 90s, but letting David Palmer come back to tie us in 93 pretty ended any real hopes I had for Fulmer.

That said, he did prove to be a recruiting power for a very long time and it won for him. Once he could no longer assert dominance on that front any longer, his coaching began to matter and that spelled doom for the program.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
He redeemed himself later in the 90s, but letting David Palmer come back to tie us in 93 pretty ended any real hopes I had for Fulmer.

That said, he did prove to be a recruiting power for a very long time and it won for him. Once he could no longer assert dominance on that front any longer, his coaching began to matter and that spelled doom for the program.
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Hit the nail on the head.
 
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hatvol96 said:
all the people who claimed Fulmer "had earned the chance" to turn things around after the 2005 trainwreck are happy. That which must be done inevitably should be done immediately. Failing to heed that principle has put Tennessee's program in the tank. All of you who chose to support Fulmer at the expense of the program have gotten exactly what you deserve. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
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I agree.

As far as some are concerned, they have never stuggled through bad times and have no idea how bad it really is. This has been a recurring nightmare for some of us who have followed this program since the early 60's. We may not have top grade talent but we have talent on this team and the Reality is that we have no Coaching. I do not know how long the high price donors on dedicated CPF supports can look at this mess and not blame the Staff for failure of development, discipline or preparedness.

I am totally amazed that this has gone on this long. Nobody has stepped in and told the big donors to step away. In essence they have bought this team and it appears that they think this is the NFL. We own the team and we call the shots. We should have ridded ourselves of Chavis, Cutcliff, Fulmer and Sanders years ago. I feel that Fulmer thinks he can go out on top with the staff he has right now. This is a vicious cycle.

IT is time to hit the RESET Button.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
I have no problem with my decision. People earn opportunities. CPF did so. You don't have to like it but that is my opinion.
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I agree. For heaven's sake, the economy is in the tank, there are wars going on, people are getting put out of their houses . . . I love college football as much as the next guy but let's keep things in perspective.

I can't hardly stand to read this board any longer. I am terribly disappointed in the team's performance but it's just silly to stomp your feet and hold your breath like a child denied a cookie.

I have season tickets but am lucky enough not to have to donate. I do invest several hundred dollars in extra expenses each time I make a trip to the Hill from Memphis. But I don't feel like that gives me the right to act like a jerk and treat the players and coaches as if I own them and they are my indentured servants.

I had a fun day Saturday, spent some wonderful time with my kids before and after the game. Yes, the game was a bummer but I went and had a nice dinner afterward and was unscathed except for a small blister from all the walking.

Many of the players on the other hand are beat up and bruised, and I bet some of them are in whirlpools right now nursing sprains and other injuries. Their coaches have to have serious concerns about job security at this point. So, I'm sorry if they all let some of you down. But I refuse to boo them. That's not how my dad brought me up as a football fan.
 
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dsbyrd said:
I agree. For heaven's sake, the economy is in the tank, there are wars going on, people are getting put out of their houses . . . I love college football as much as the next guy but let's keep things in perspective.

I can't hardly stand to read this board any longer. I am terribly disappointed in the team's performance but it's just silly to stomp your feet and hold your breath like a child denied a cookie.

I have season tickets but am lucky enough not to have to donate. I do invest several hundred dollars in extra expenses each time I make a trip to the Hill from Memphis. But I don't feel like that gives me the right to act like a jerk and treat the players and coaches as if I own them and they are my indentured servants.

I had a fun day Saturday, spent some wonderful time with my kids before and after the game. Yes, the game was a bummer but I went and had a nice dinner afterward and was unscathed except for a small blister from all the walking.

Many of the players on the other hand are beat up and bruised, and I bet some of them are in whirlpools right now nursing sprains and other injuries. Their coaches have to have serious concerns about job security at this point. So, I'm sorry if they all let some of you down. But I refuse to boo them. That's not how my dad brought me up as a football fan.
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Ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome Polyanna to the board.
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hatvol96 said:
Ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome Polyanna to the board.
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I'll take that as a compliment. Different story but I guess the antithesis would be Ebeneezer Scrooge. Which character would you rather be? Which would most people prefer to be around? Discuss.
 
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