How bad is Randy Sanders??

#26
#26
Play calling wasn't really Sander's problem. Discipline was, the play was sloppy. The practices were more lax and as a result so was gameplay.
 
#28
#28
I don't know the man personally. However, from all indications and reports...a really good fella and good QB coach. I was impressed with what he was able to contribute at Kentucky the last couple of years as to bringing their QBs along.
 
#29
#29
Well thanks guys, overall, with the comments made so far I feel a bit more comfortable with Sanders. Fans of GTech were basically saying good riddance when we hired Nix so this talk is a bit more soothing. I feel like Sanders would be more of a slight upgrade rather than a lateral move from Pat Nix, if for anything his QB coaching skills. I still hope he is a backup plan though.
 
#30
#30
Most people believed Sanders never had a free hand to run UT's offense. What you saw was Fulmer's offensive philosophy.
 
#32
#32
of course we do not know if he had full control or not so he could just legitimately suck
 
#33
#33
I personally don't think he is that great of a QB coach. He did a great job at UT as a runnning backs coach. But all you have to do is look at the play of Erik Ainge during his time here. He improved greatly from his junior year till his senior year. The difference was Randy Sanders and David Cutcliffe. He is a loyal guy who is a good football coach but he isn't a Cordinator in this conference. Very predictable play calling and really didn't bring anything new to the offense that was noticable from a fans point of veiw. That could have had something to do with Fulmer vetos. No one knows but the coaches. But Miami could do better IMO.

Do you feel like Shannon will last at the "U"? I have a feeling that is were Tuberville is going to end up after next year myself.
 
#34
#34
TheRealU said:
Well thanks guys, overall, with the comments made so far I feel a bit more comfortable with Sanders. Fans of GTech were basically saying good riddance when we hired Nix so this talk is a bit more soothing. I feel like Sanders would be more of a slight upgrade rather than a lateral move from Pat Nix, if for anything his QB coaching skills. I still hope he is a backup plan though.
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Hey Miami, what do you think of your coach? Is he the answer for the U?
 
#36
#36
TheRealU said:
Im not worried about talent. Shannon and all our assistant coaches can recruit their ass off. Im just worried about putting players in a position to use their talent and having the athletes know what the hell they are doing.
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im a vol fan first but im also a hurricane fan and sanders is not bad but not spectacular. i am highly disappointed if this is the best oc out there for my canes. i think sanders is average but cmon we are talking about the u. sanders is from my hometown and we played for the same high school however, i'm not biased at all.
 
#37
#37
SpringBokVol said:
Good QB coach. Could be a decent OC if given full control and had a mentor to guide him.

Not the worst hire possible. He had a good run at UT, but was handcuffed most of the time.

His best showing was in 2001 against Michigan in the Capital One bowl. That was all Sanders. But he had a ton of talent, which helps.
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How do we know which games he was in complete control and the ones where he was "handcuffed"? How do we know what extent he was allowed to do what he wanted?
This seems like pure speculation to me.

The fact is that our offense was offensive the majority of the time he was OC is all I need to know.
It seems he was a good QB coach though.
 
#39
#39
gasguy98 said:
How do we know which games he was in complete control and the ones where he was "handcuffed"? How do we know what extent he was allowed to do what he wanted?
This seems like pure speculation to me.

The fact is that our offense was offensive the majority of the time he was OC is all I need to know.
It seems he was a good QB coach though.
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i'll take his offensive offense over dave clawson's.
 
#40
#40
VOL61 said:
I personally don't think he is that great of a QB coach. He did a great job at UT as a runnning backs coach. But all you have to do is look at the play of Erik Ainge during his time here. He improved greatly from his junior year till his senior year. The difference was Randy Sanders and David Cutcliffe. He is a loyal guy who is a good football coach but he isn't a Cordinator in this conference. Very predictable play calling and really didn't bring anything new to the offense that was noticable from a fans point of veiw. That could have had something to do with Fulmer vetos. No one knows but the coaches. But Miami could do better IMO.

Do you feel like Shannon will last at the "U"? I have a feeling that is were Tuberville is going to end up after next year myself.
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sanders did a great job with ainge in 2004.
 
#41
#41
We just don't know how much Foolmer hurt Randy's playcalling abilities. I know he did a heck of a job in the national championship game. The talent here fell off and Fulmer's meddling increased. It would have been interesting to see how Sanders could have done if left alone.
 
#43
#43
Asked a couple years later to evaluate the situation at UT, Sanders said, "If CPF is wearing a headset, THERE IS NO OC at Tennessee."

Sanders was much more a follower of Cutcliffe than Fulmer. He pretty much got bullied out of a job at UT.
 
#45
#45
gasguy98 said:
How do we know which games he was in complete control and the ones where he was "handcuffed"? How do we know what extent he was allowed to do what he wanted?
This seems like pure speculation to me.

The fact is that our offense was offensive the majority of the time he was OC is all I need to know.
It seems he was a good QB coach though.
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I know for a fact because I was a part of that team.
 
#46
#46
Coach Cut was the only OC here to ever be allowed to call his own plays. I don't know why he was the only one, but thats how it was. Thank god thats changed.
 
#48
#48
Who really knows, except the coaches and players.. I think this years offense may prove that Randy Sanders was not the problem in Knoxville...
I still think he would be an upgrade from Nix...
 
#50
#50
jjay2518 said:
Honestly, I think he got the short end of the stick here. He seems to be an above average QB coach, and his OC skills are yet to be determined. I don't think many conclusions can be drawn from his time as OC here. Fulmer was more OC than RS during that time.

All in all, I would say not the worst choice, but pretty unproven.
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This the truest assesment of Sanders, Buyer beware!

:eek:lol:
 
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