Home raided over Facebook photo of child and his .22 rifle

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Gannon Goodson said:
It's called exigent circumstances. In other words, an emergency. Police chasing a suspect into a house, screaming coming inside a residence, etc. Of course, that didn't exist in this case.

You as a lawyer should know this.
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That's one exception. There are a number of others.


utvolpj said:
it's not. Not at all

also pretty insulting to any combat vets who might be reading
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I certainly meant no offense to any combat veterans, all of whom are heroes in my book, and many of whom returned to the US and chose not to be dangerous gun nuts.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I certainly meant no offense to any combat veterans, all of whom are heroes in my book, and many of whom returned to the US and chose not to be dangerous gun nuts.
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yet you find a cartoon characterizing them as such while using a rebel flag as a backdrop to be funny?
 
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:rock: Fly "your" flag with pride whatever that color is. Mine's the Stars & Stripes first. The second is the Tennessee State Flag.
 
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Nice edit LG had someone else posted that you'd be losing your mind over what a racist hate monger they are. You continue to prove everyday what a raging douche you are.
 
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BigOlVols said:
Nice edit LG had someone else posted that you'd be losing your mind over what a racist hate monger they are. You continue to prove everyday what a raging douce you are.
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In a statement, Carney Point Police Chief Robert DiGregorio and Mayor Richard Gatanis said officers went to the family's home at about 8:15 p.m. Friday after getting anonymous tips that a boy there might have access to weapons and ammunition.
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when did that become a crime?
 
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RollinVol said:
No charges in case of New Jersey boy pictured with gun | Fox News

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Interesting. It has now shifted back to the question of whether the cops should be checking on a situation in which an 11 year old boy apparently has free access to guns and ammunition.

I guess the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they check on the situation, they are the government coming to get all your guns. If they don't, and the kid shoots himself or a classmate, the cops are lazy and never do their jobs right.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interesting. It has now shifted back to the question of whether the cops should be checking on a situation in which an 11 year old boy apparently has free access to guns and ammunition.
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unless they plan to check every gun owner with children then this was a ridiculous exercise. The odds of this kid killing someone are as close to zero as you can get

and how did you determine this kid has "free access to guns and ammunition"? The description of his father would lead most rational people to assume the opposite
 
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utvolpj said:
unless they plan to check every gun owner with children then this was a ridiculous exercise. The odds of this kid killing someone are as close to zero as you can get

and how did you determine this kid has "free access to guns and ammunition"? The description of his father would lead most rational people to assume the opposite
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Cuz he's white. Duh
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interesting. It has now shifted back to the question of whether the cops should be checking on a situation in which an 11 year old boy apparently has free access to guns and ammunition.

I guess the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they check on the situation, they are the government coming to get all your guns. If they don't, and the kid shoots himself or a classmate, the cops are lazy and never do their jobs right.
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Actually common sense dictates that's bad parenting.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interesting. It has now shifted back to the question of whether the cops should be checking on a situation in which an 11 year old boy apparently has free access to guns and ammunition.

I guess the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they check on the situation, they are the government coming to get all your guns. If they don't, and the kid shoots himself or a classmate, the cops are lazy and never do their jobs right.
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I don't really blame the cops it's the people who called them that are the issue.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Interesting. It has now shifted back to the question of whether the cops should be checking on a situation in which an 11 year old boy apparently has free access to guns and ammunition.

I guess the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they check on the situation, they are the government coming to get all your guns. If they don't, and the kid shoots himself or a classmate, the cops are lazy and never do their jobs right.
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The article didnt say the boy had free access to guns and ammo. It said the person who called the cops said the boy did. I think the cops did their job but they went about wrong. I also think now this is more of a case of a anti-gun guy tried to start trouble with a pro-gun guy. From what the cops said in his statement about the caller telling the cops that the kid had free access to guns and ammo. I guess the caller could tell that by looking at the picture??? GBO
 
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I remember a few years ago a kid was home alone & shot an intruder breaking in his home. He was praised for knowing what to do.
 
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LEATHERHEAD VOL said:
The article didnt say the boy had free access to guns and ammo. It said the person who called the cops said the boy did. I think the cops did their job but they went about wrong. I also think now this is more of a case of a anti-gun guy tried to start trouble with a pro-gun guy. From what the cops said in his statement about the caller telling the cops that the kid had free access to guns and ammo. I guess the caller could tell that by looking at the picture??? GBO
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Well, the problem there is that the call came into child protective services (or their state's rendition of that, anyway) and they are charged by law with investigating it. They have whatever protocol they have, and they took police with them as a precaution. I imagine again that is dictated by some written policy.

You will note that I am not using this as a reason to criticize the father. I mean, I do happen to think it is pretty irresponsible to give an 11 year old a rifle for his birthday. I cannot fathom doing something like that.

I would not call it child abuse. Dumb as crap, yeah, but not abuse.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Well, the problem there is that the call came into child protective services (or their state's rendition of that, anyway) and they are charged by law with investigating it. They have whatever protocol they have, and they took police with them as a precaution. I imagine again that is dictated by some written policy.
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it's policy to ask to enter the home and inspect his safe and weapons? If so, that policy needs to end quickly

lawgator1 said:
I mean, I do happen to think it is pretty irresponsible to give an 11 year old a rifle for his birthday. I cannot fathom doing something like that.

I would not call it child abuse. Dumb as crap, yeah, but not abuse.
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how is it dumb or irresponsible? I had one at that age and shockingly never killed anyone. Lots of my friends did too and they never killed anyone. It's a 22 anyways not some .50 cal
 
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utvolpj said:
it's policy to ask to enter the home and inspect his safe and weapons? If so, that policy needs to end quickly



how is it dumb or irresponsible? I had one at that age and shockingly never killed anyone. Lots of my friends did too and they never killed anyone. It's a 22 anyways not some .50 cal
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My nephews have hunted and learned how to responsibly use and handle a rifle since around the same age. They received 22 rifles as gifts on there 10th birthday. Absolutely nothing wrong with them using them and learning how to use them responsibly.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You will note that I am not using this as a reason to criticize the father. I mean, I do happen to think it is pretty irresponsible to give an 11 year old a rifle for his birthday. I cannot fathom doing something like that.

I would not call it child abuse. Dumb as crap, yeah, but not abuse.
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Well then you'd probably soil your underwear to know that my 7 year old daughter is becoming quite proficient with the .22 rifle I bought her recently. She shoots consistently in the nine/ten rings from 25 yards and isn't too bad at all (7/8 rings) out to 100 yards.
 
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