Hiking Thread

Thanks so much. This helps. I had a good friend who had lived out there and he would help us plan trips. Lost him this year after a long battle with cancer. I miss him and his knowledge.

TO and I were researching maps this morning, but it's hard to tell what roads are like. We used to have an app that you could virtually drive the road. We used it to access Arches one time from the back side, but after several new computers, I've lost it☹️. How about accessing Bryce from the west? Drive from GBNP via 15, go east to Bryce (is that 89 and 12?), come out the same way and drop south to Zion?

Currently I'm looking at:
to Denver
Montrose
Ouray
Silverton
Arches (drive the road to Silverton N to S and then back up S to N)
Great Basin
Bryce
Zion
Maybe home though Albuquerque.
Would love to see Great Sand Dunes again, but thinking that may just be too much to put in on this trip.

This is very tentative, and probably there is a better way to route. Any ideas and suggestions you have will be more than appreciated.

TO wants to side trip to Monument Valley, but looking at the map I think it is too far out for this trip.


I’ve only been to Bryce Canyon once and that was in 1978, so I can’t provide any useful insight on what approach route would be preferable (or to be avoided) for your specific purposes. However, if you aren’t already using it for planning purposes, I believe that you will find the website, milebymile.com, to be an absolute godsend. They have detailed mile-by-mile commentaries, often accompanied by a host of photographs, for roughly 1700 major and scenic highways nationwide. For example, here are links to their webpages on two major portions of the San Juan Skyway: http://www.milebymile.com/main/highway-10.html and http://www.milebymile.com/main/highway-11.html. You also can reverse direction for the highway from what first appears in order to assess different potential routes. If I am going into areas that I have not previously visited, I will usually have a notebook of printouts for navigational purposes for the itinerary that I ultimately decide upon.

Don't underestimate the value of Youtube for video clips that may be useful for planning purposes. Here are links to a few clips, again for various areas in the San Juans, that should adequately illustrate my point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfF_B0zBUVI; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQE1ANPSk-8; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkXI7pLSMS8; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__sy1DYQB9I (Note: This one is best left to persons who are truly experienced in high-altitude, off-road driving or jeep tour operators); and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdyMOt68MxY.

For some of that vaunted fall color that is visible in the Ridgway/Telluride area, which is accessible from Ouray County Roads 5, 7 and 9, as well as the Last Dollar Road, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=884SbtYKKyo and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqoOhPwjwnk.

If you are heading west from Denver and have not previously visited the area, I would highly recommend circumnavigating the Gore Range, which is north of Vail and Silverthorne. Locals consider the Gore Range, which encompasses the appropriately named Eagles Nest Wilderness Area, to be one of the most rugged mountain ranges in all of Colorado. Indeed, it is so rugged that very few, if any, trails actually cross the Gores. See http://www.gohikecolorado.com/gore-range.html and http://www.coloradoswildareas.com/wilderness_area/eagles-nest-wilderness/. Most of them just lead to high alpine lakes.

You could describe the Gores as Colorado's version of the Tetons, given the fact that the Gore Range is a fault-block mountain range. To give you a flavor of this lesser-known range, see http://www.summitpost.org/gore-range/170958 and http://www.mountainphotography.com/gallery/gore-range/. You won’t find a lot of company on the roads in this area, but it is most impressive, particularly in fall.

"Only 60 miles at its closest point from Denver, the Gore Range as a whole is relatively unknown. Due to the lack of mining roads that crisscross more popular mountain ranges the interior of the Gore Range can be difficult to reach. Of the summits of the Gore Range none attain the magic 14,000-ft mark, which accounts for some of the range's obscurity. The monarch of the Gore Range is the 13,534-ft. Mount Powell at the north end of the range. Overall, the west side of the Gore Range is more accessible than the east. If approaching from the east, expect long, tedious, bushwhacking adventures with difficult route finding."

Incidentally, have you ever taken the road to the summit of Mount Evans in the Front Range? 'tis the highest paved road in the country; the summit parking lot is at an elevation of just over 14,100 feet, so it is the easiest 14er you will ever climb. You're almost guaranteed to see bighorn and/or mountain goats at the summit parking area. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5kn3NDW9bQ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvZpP6DC-2A. You will also drive through an area inhabited by bristlecone pines (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia-bRFR16Sg).
 
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Well...after two years of planning, our Wyoming trip is not goin to happen after all. This weekend has been a veritable crapstorm of bad news. If you are a believer, I would appreciate your prayers for our family, if not then I appreciate your thoughts.
 
Well...after two years of planning, our Wyoming trip is not goin to happen after all. This weekend has been a veritable crapstorm of bad news. If you are a believer, I would appreciate your prayers for our family, if not then I appreciate your thoughts.

Prayers today and every day until you post otherwise.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
 
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Prayers today and every day until you post otherwise.
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Thank you very much. My father in law in Pheonix is on life support. My wife is leaving on a flight at 6:20 in the AM, and I'm losing my job tomorrow unless something changes. Just too much all at once.
 
Thank you very much. My father in law in Pheonix is on life support. My wife is leaving on a flight at 6:20 in the AM, and I'm losing my job tomorrow unless something changes. Just too much all at once.

Please keep us updated. Hope something works out on uour job and your father in law recovers. Know this is hard on your wife; daddys are special.
 
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Ulysses, words are always woefully inadequate in circumstances such as those with which you are currently confronted. May almighty God grant you strength and peace at this time.
 
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Thank you very much. My father in law in Pheonix is on life support. My wife is leaving on a flight at 6:20 in the AM, and I'm losing my job tomorrow unless something changes. Just too much all at once.

Sending prayers your way U.

Sorry for the tough times you're going through.
 
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Thanks so much friends. My wife just about had a nervous breakdown when she got the news today, our kids drove up here from Ga and Bama and it has really helped to calm her down. We are driving her to Louisville international in a couple of hours to fly out to Phoenix. I hate her going by herself, but all her siblings are flying out the there also, so she won't be alone. They have moved him to ICU, and he is on life support. It could go either way at this point. It is in God's great hands.
 
Thanks so much friends. My wife just about had a nervous breakdown when she got the news today, our kids drove up here from Ga and Bama and it has really helped to calm her down. We are driving her to Louisville international in a couple of hours to fly out to Phoenix. I hate her going by herself, but all her siblings are flying out the there also, so she won't be alone. They have moved him to ICU, and he is on life support. It could go either way at this point. It is in God's great hands.

That is really tough, UEM. So sorry to hear about it. We're thinking about you and your family.
 
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Praise God! Dad is off life support. He is talking and functioning. His heart is only working at around 30% and his kidneys are at 30%. He had a pulmonary embolism. It is a miracle he is alive. Please continue in prayer for him. I did get let go today, but from the perspective of life and death...it is just a small setback. It is way down my give a crap list right now. I'm just so thankful one of my biggest heroes is still with us. :) Thank all of you for your thoughts and prayers you have took the time to give us. May God bless you all.
 
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Praise God! Dad is off life support. He is talking and functioning. His heart is only working at around 30% and his kidneys are at 30%. He had a pulmonary embolism. It is a miracle he is alive. Please continue in prayer for him. I did get let go today, but from the perspective of life and death...it is just a small setback. It is way down my give a crap list right now. I'm just so thankful one of my biggest heroes is still with us. :) Thank all of you for your thoughts and prayers you have took the time to give us. May God bless you all.

Continued prayers for you and your family Ulysees.
 
And then the park service has to rescue said idiots. Costs a lot of money, and they don't have enough as it is.

Discussing Rockies vs Smokies, my preference is the Smokies, just feel like in a cocoon of beauty, but I love the Rockies. I've seen people hit with that Western Fever too. If you don't have an immunity, it grabs hard and never lets go. Took our nephew when he was sixteen and got scared we wouldn't get him back home :). Remember thinking his mother would kill me! Only reason he's stayed after graduation is he fell in love, and she is only going to the beach for vacation and no hope of him ever getting her out west.

But, the opposite of mountains, have you ever driven to Great Basin? That is something I'll never forget. Flat and forever:eek:hmy:.
GSMNP should charge admission. Allow people who live in bordering counties in free, and a cheap yearly pass for TN and NC residents. Too much riff raff drifting in from cheesy Gatlinburg and PF tourists who aren't really drawn by a national park.
 
Praise God! Dad is off life support. He is talking and functioning. His heart is only working at around 30% and his kidneys are at 30%. He had a pulmonary embolism. It is a miracle he is alive. Please continue in prayer for him. I did get let go today, but from the perspective of life and death...it is just a small setback. It is way down my give a crap list right now. I'm just so thankful one of my biggest heroes is still with us. :) Thank all of you for your thoughts and prayers you have took the time to give us. May God bless you all.

Glad to hear this, and thank you for the update. Still praying for his recovery and strength for all of family. Also praying that you find a job very soon.🙏🙏
 
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Praise God! Dad is off life support. He is talking and functioning. His heart is only working at around 30% and his kidneys are at 30%. He had a pulmonary embolism. It is a miracle he is alive. Please continue in prayer for him. I did get let go today, but from the perspective of life and death...it is just a small setback. It is way down my give a crap list right now. I'm just so thankful one of my biggest heroes is still with us. :) Thank all of you for your thoughts and prayers you have took the time to give us. May God bless you all.

Praying for you guys, UEM. I hope you find a job you like soon as well.
 
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Well..we may be able to go to Wyoming after all. We just moved everything back two weeks. It amazed me that our lodging had the days available. It is going to be a little tighter on money, but it looks like everything has worked out. My wife is headed home tommorow from Arizona, Dad went home last night, he is not in great shape, but he is still here..Praise the Lord. The doctors are amazed at his progress. He was literally at knockin on Heavens door for two days.
 
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I have found some work also. I have been in the building and remodeling business literally my whole life. I went down to Knoxville for two days, and made more than I did a week at my old job. I just hope I can hold up physically, but God willing I should be ok for awhile.. Once again..Praise and honor to God, for both the storm and the calm.
 
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Well..we may be able to go to Wyoming after all. We just moved everything back two weeks. It amazed me that our lodging had the days available. It is going to be a little tighter on money, but it looks like everything has worked out. My wife is headed home tommorow from Arizona, Dad went home last night, he is not in great shape, but he is still here..Praise the Lord. The doctors are amazed at his progress. He was literally at knockin on Heavens door for two days.


Ulysses, those two weeks will make a world of difference. Depending on just how the climatic “stars” line up between now and then, you could be poised, during the latter portion of your trip, for fifty-yard line seats to God’s great autumnal color show.

For future reference, keep in mind that demand for lodging usually goes down as the month of September progresses. Kids are back in school and visitation is much lower, particularly in remote portions of the Northern Rockies. 'tis yet another of the many reasons to earmark September as prime time to embark on a pilgrimage to the high country. I don't know when, precisely, the rut begins for elk in the Tetons. However, I would imagine that the big bulls would be more actively engaged in ritual combat later in the month. The sound of an elk bugling is a signature sound of wilderness. It is so distinctive that you will never forget it, so long as you live.

This source (http://www.gtnpf.org/adventure-journal-top-3-spots-to-listen-to-elk-bugle-in-october/) provides the following information on the best places in the park to view elk during the rut: “Below is a list of the top three places in Grand Teton to listen to elk bugling in October. Elk can be extremely aggressive during the rut, so please stay at least 25 yards away from the wildlife while you are quietly observing. Also, the elk are most active in the early morning and early evening, so plan your visit accordingly.

1. Bradley-Taggart trailhead – This trailhead is about five minutes from the main park entrance in Moose. Drive through the entrance and continue on until you see the Bradley-Taggart trailhead parking lot on your left. You can commonly hear elk bugle right from the parking lot!

2. White Grass Meadow – Accessed from the south entrance of the Moose-Wilson road, turn west onto the Death Canyon Road. You do not have to drive the full distance to the Death Canyon Trailhead. Before the road takes a left hand turn, park at one of the pull outs and walk into the meadow on the north side of the road. This road requires a car with four-wheel drive.

3. Granite Canyon – This is the closest trailhead to the south entrance of the park on the Moose-Wilson road. Elk can be active in the meadows on both the west and east sides of the road from this trailhead.”
 
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Some of the best views of Yosemite without having to deal with the traffic in the valley.

El Cap from Taft point, Yosemite Falls from the Sentinel Dome trail and Half Dome from the Sentinel Dome.

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