Hiestand is Gone (Rumor)

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LawVol13 said:
That's not true. Kiffin was going to call his plays no matter who he hired as OC.
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You are probably right. Kiffin has too big of an ego to let anyone call his plays. Anyway, I have said since day one that one of our main problems is the lack of a good OC. I still contend I am right.
 
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#179
For God's sake, would a mod please add (rumor) to this thread title???

I just went through the whole d@mn thing on my phone, and I'm nearly blind, and it's someone quoting a RUMOR off of Trolls-R-Us Vols Quest!

#%^*+¥£€!?!
 
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ReelfootVol said:
I said that Chaney sucked when he was oc under Kiffin. That is why Kiffin called his own plays. Kiffin could see that the 1964 scheme that Chaney ran actually sucked.
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not a Kiffin fan,but Chaney was hired with the understanding that he was oc in name only and that Kiffin was going to call the plays.
 
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#182
i havent heard anything about chh being let go, but sometimes these things are well hidden til the time comes.

personally i think it would be unfair to release chh, everyone knows whats at stake next year. his oline should be much better in its third year. and im not necessarily a chh fan, nothing against his coaching, just him.
 
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skeeter33418 said:
i havent heard anything about chh being let go, but sometimes these things are well hidden til the time comes.

personally i think it would be unfair to release chh, everyone knows whats at stake next year. his oline should be much better in its third year. and im not necessarily a chh fan, nothing against his coaching, just him.
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Bad personality?
 
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dreVol said:
Bad personality?
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well i dont know him all that well, but he seems very stand offish. he for sure doesnt seem like someone i would want in a school or home trying to convince a kid to come play for us. maybe he turns on a different switch while hes recruiting, but i havent seen it.
 
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majic73 said:
I agree 100%
The problem seems to be the sprint -draw concept of running the football. The backs are set deeper than standard . The QB drops in a passing drop and then hand the ball off to the waiting running back who then attacks the line.
At the point that the back receives the ball , the holes ARE THERE! but the back is 7 yards deep .
This is may work in the MAC or the lower tier conferences , but it wont work in the SEC. The linebacks are too fast . If they drop with the pass , when the diagnose run they are quick enough to get back in position ...position being with their nose in the gap or even the backfield.
In a conventional scheme , the backs are set tow yards closer . When the ball is snapped they are going full tilt at the hole and the QB does not drop but turns and stretches to the handoff . The hole opens and the back is in the hole with momentum ..worst case 3 yards.

Strangly enough when they went to the I and offset against LSU before the half ...they ran the ball well. Same thing against Bama .

They always seem to find their way back to the sprint draw . I dont feel the line is the issue . They seem to be able to get it done when put in a reasonable formation , and they pass block very well. pass blocking is harder than run blocking ...and if you watch their spint draw plays ...the hole opens but is filled quickly by an LB . This is a simple read for any LB . It creates a blocking numbers mismatch at the point of attack ..you have 5 guys blocking 7 or 8. No running back or O line coach will succeed with this scheme in this league.

Couple that with Chaneys impatient play calling and we have a major problem. We dont throw 5 yard passes , screens, waggles , come backs ...every thing is a 15 out , go , deep post . The long plays are low percentage even for the best teams ...but seems to be all that Chaney is willing to to.

Fire Chaney . Get a standard run scheme , work play action , build in the wrinkles. If they were running I form with Hunter , Da'rick and Bray ...running the ball 60% ...their offense would be unstoppable
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You watch ANY team running the I formation--or offset I--the tailback is ALWAYS 7 YDS from the line of scrimmage--any closer and it doesn't give the linemen time to pull or get to their blocks and there isn't time for the holes to open. Go back to the '98 season--or any season before that when we really ran the ball down the throats of people--the backs are always 7 yds deep.

Even though our line was big--they were SLOW and failed to SUSTAIN BLOCKS! --that's a matter of technique, strength, footwork and a lack of a mean and nasty disposition. Pass-blocking technique is harder to master for tackles--but it takes more stamina and strength to line up and run-block for an entire game--and our guys aren't there yet.

Everyone has wondered why we did not score in the 2nd half of games this year--our overweight lineman were not moving ANYONE off the ball...They all need to lose 20 lbs--get quicker--and develop a very mean and nasty attitude! :salute:

I agree 100% with your last paragraph.
 
#187
#187
Player Bio: Jim Chaney

Chaney was the ol coach (and offensive coordinator) at Purdue several years, the last year, 2002, looks like they got 2555 yards rushing. So I do believe he will turn it around if given the chance.
 
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Probably didnt have a chance to go back to the I-formation with bray. To see if it worked, like it did with simms and worley, since bray cant go under center. I think what they learned against bama and lsu just hasn't had a chance to be implemented.
 
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#191
If you could get back any former assistant coaches for any of the possible vacancies, who would it be? I'm gonna limit it to Offensive Line, Offensive Coordinator, and Running backs. Also, you could add QB coach if you dont wanna designate the OC as that too.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Got fired from an NFL team for not being able to get those guys to block air. His line regressed this year, after most of those guys had a full season under their belts.
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This pretty much sums up what I was going to say.

Someone needs to turn Antonio Richardson into the Incredible Hulk this offseason and next spring/summer.
 
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#193
It doesn't matter to me if Hiestand stays or goes.

As far as Chaney..was anybody complaining about him when we put up 45 against Cincy?
 
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skeeter33418 said:
i havent heard anything about chh being let go, but sometimes these things are well hidden til the time comes.

personally i think it would be unfair to release chh, everyone knows whats at stake next year. his oline should be much better in its third year. and im not necessarily a chh fan, nothing against his coaching, just him.
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I've been thinking all season long that SOMEONE on the staff has to take ownership for such an abysmal failure in the running game. Last year you could blame it on the youth/no depth, etc. But with a year under their belt an more depth, there should have been some progressive improvement in that dept.

I mean, it's one thing when teams stack the LOS to stop the run, it's entirely another when they know you throw it more than you pass, and you STILL can run a lick...against MTSU, Buffalo, Montana, KY, Vandy?

Something is flat out broken, and it's the coaches responsibility to fix it. They never did. All you can do is find the source and put someone in place who has proven they CAN get it right.
 
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V4L said:
It doesn't matter to me if Hiestand stays or goes.

As far as Chaney..was anybody complaining about him when we put up 45 against Cincy?
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cincy isnt LSU,Bama,Ga.
One would think if he can put up 45 on cincy then he should be able to put up more than 10,7,6 on better teams.
 
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tnvols72 said:
cincy isnt LSU,Bama,Ga.
One would think if he can put up 45 on cincy then he should be able to put up more than 10,7,6 on better teams.
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Didn't have Hunter for any of those games and Bray for only one.

That's my point..when he has a full arsenal of Bray, Hunter and Rogers he can open things up more. And a halfway decent run game would help.
 
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