Fair enough but how does Jones fall into this equation since he has just taken over a program that is at its darkest hour? Only place to go is up. Unsure how far that is but He is giving a 100% effort which is more than I can say about Fulmer in his last year as well as the other two numbnuts.
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This is quite the stretch in only 9 or so weeks don't ya think?
If you look at the last 4 years recruiting rankings, we haven't fell behind Candy and ole miss, just this year! There's talent on this roster...a lot of it.....and i believe we have a coaching staff now that will coach them up, put them in the right positions, and have them hungry and motivated like we haven't seen in years...Plus I'm all about the 2014 legacy Class....I KNOW this guys will be working there butts off to win...there a hungry staff..and I couldn't ask for more than to have a hungry staff...how long has that truly been?Same amount of time Gus Malzahn had and look where his class is. Hugh Freeze has only had a year at Ole Miss and look at what he has done. Same with Kevin Sumlin. You can always say "Give him more time" (Doolovers made it into a mantra), but time isn't a luxury you get in this league.
The fact is, we've been falling behind the Alabamas and the Floridas when it comes to signing talent every year. Butch Jones didn't make any strides to pull us closer to them. It was another class where we fell further behind. And now. we've fallen behind Ole Miss too. And Vanderbilt.
A coach that needs alot of time is never going to succeed here.
If you look at the last 4 years recruiting rankings, we haven't fell behind Candy and ole miss, just this year! There's talent on this roster...a lot of it.....and i believe we have a coaching staff now that will coach them up, put them in the right positions, and have them hungry and motivated like we haven't seen in years...Plus I'm all about the 2014 legacy Class....I KNOW this guys will be working there butts off to win...there a hungry staff..and I couldn't ask for more than to have a hungry staff...how long has that truly been?
Right. It wasn't until this year that we fell behind Ole Miss and Vanderbilt. That's why I said we were losing ground.
And I don't care how hungry or hard-working or whatever people think our staff is. I care about recruits and winning.
regardless of your thoughts on butch this year is going to be yet another long one. 6-6 would be surprising to me considering the weapons on offense we lost and the state of our defense last year. and since our class is 10th in the sec id say we have at least two more long ones
I don't know how much effort Jones is giving, nor do I care. All I care about are results. And he hasn't accomplished anything worth noting.
Look, I know he took over a bad situation and I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt (heck, I'm the one who started the first thread here about him as a possible coaching candidate, back when everyone else thought he was the guy from UNC). But in order to get out of a bad situation, you have to make big strides to catch up with those ahead of you, or you'll always be behind. Butch Jones hasn't gained ground on anyone. Instead we're sinking even further behind.
You're right, Kiffin only needed the same amount of time to build a top 10 class, so Butch should have done the same. Good thing Butch has those seniors to rely on for his first season. Oh wait, he doesn't, crap. Good thing Butch is bringing in players who want to stay.Same amount of time Gus Malzahn had and look where his class is. Hugh Freeze has only had a year at Ole Miss and look at what he has done. Same with Kevin Sumlin. You can always say "Give him more time" (Doolovers made it into a mantra), but time isn't a luxury you get in this league.
The fact is, we've been falling behind the Alabamas and the Floridas when it comes to signing talent every year. Butch Jones didn't make any strides to pull us closer to them. It was another class where we fell further behind. And now. we've fallen behind Ole Miss too. And Vanderbilt.
A coach that needs alot of time is never going to succeed here.