Here ya go Butch!

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Gotta be better than DeBord. I have been arguing on here that we need to look for an OC from Big 12 or perhaps Tulsa or WKU.
 
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Throw the bank at Kingsburry or Helfrich who are likely on their way out as HC at their respective schools.
 
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Gotta be better than DeBord. I have been arguing on here that we need to look for an OC from Big 12 or perhaps Tulsa or WKU.

Question is, would he be better as Butch's OC....running BUTCH's OFFENSE, cause that's what any OC under Butch would be doing.

Debord has been good at times, bad at times, great at times, awful at times. And considering how the most kneejerk, lowest common denominator fan response in organized sport is to complain about playcalling/the Offensive Coordinator at the time, I'm fairly certain that all those wanting Debord fired right now are gonna hate the next guy running the same offensive system/Butch's system as well.
 
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Question is, would he be better as Butch's OC....running BUTCH's OFFENSE, cause that's what any OC under Butch would be doing.

Debord has been good at times, bad at times, great at times, awful at times. And considering how the most kneejerk, lowest common denominator fan response in organized sport is to complain about playcalling/the Offensive Coordinator at the time, I'm fairly certain that all those wanting Debord fired right now are gonna hate the next guy running the same offensive system/Butch's system as well.

Would love to see an air raid mixed in with a little read option with Jarrett Guarantano at the wheel.
 
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Would love to see an air raid mixed in with a little read option with Jarrett Guarantano at the wheel.

I am very sure UT will put up much more passing yards whether it S Jones, Q Dormady or, JG. All three have the arm to make all the throws. And, i'm pretty sure that, they've all been clocked under 4.5 in the 40. Much better days ahead for the VOL offence .
 
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I am very sure UT will put up much more passing yards whether it S Jones, Q Dormady or, JG. All three have the arm to make all the throws. And, i'm pretty sure that, they've all been clocked under 4.5 in the 40. Much better days ahead for the VOL offence .

Dormady is a high 4.6 guy. Still plenty fast to be effective in this role. JG is the fastest of the three as I understand it, with the strongest arm. I've heard there are some pretty consistent accuracy issues though....probably just some mechanics issues that a real QB coach could clean up pretty easily.

I agree....I believe the offense may improve with a new QB. I see the ability to pre-snap read and progress as the biggest things holding us back now. We'll likely miss Dobbs grit, and leadership though.
 
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Throw the bank at Kingsburry or Helfrich who are likely on their way out as HC at their respective schools.

Im for kingsbury but if he doe good as oc would we see him more than just a year? Kiffin has been with bama for a while. So possible
 
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I am very sure UT will put up much more passing yards whether it S Jones, Q Dormady or, JG. All three have the arm to make all the throws. And, i'm pretty sure that, they've all been clocked under 4.5 in the 40. Much better days ahead for the VOL offence .

While it is apparently poor form to say anything at all negative about Dobbs, I there is no doubt in my mind that you are correct.

I will never offer a complete opinion of the CBJ "scheme" until I see it ran by someone who can actually throw the football with consistency.
 
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Dormady is a high 4.6 guy. Still plenty fast to be effective in this role. JG is the fastest of the three as I understand it, with the strongest arm. I've heard there are some pretty consistent accuracy issues though....probably just some mechanics issues that a real QB coach could clean up pretty easily.

I agree....I believe the offense may improve with a new QB. I see the ability to pre-snap read and progress as the biggest things holding us back now. We'll likely miss Dobbs grit, and leadership though.

Yeah, don't take me wrong, I know that Dobbs gives it all he's got and will sacrifice his body willingly to help the team win. He is a tough QB, that leads by example.
 
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Dormady is a high 4.6 guy. Still plenty fast to be effective in this role. JG is the fastest of the three as I understand it, with the strongest arm. I've heard there are some pretty consistent accuracy issues though....probably just some mechanics issues that a real QB coach could clean up pretty easily.

I agree....I believe the offense may improve with a new QB. I see the ability to pre-snap read and progress as the biggest things holding us back now. We'll likely miss Dobbs grit, and leadership though.

With Dormady's perceived advantage in the passing department over Dobbs the running lanes should open up more due to defenses having to respect the "throw game." Dormady's 4.6 should be sufficient enough.
 
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Dormady is a high 4.6 guy. Still plenty fast to be effective in this role. JG is the fastest of the three as I understand it, with the strongest arm. I've heard there are some pretty consistent accuracy issues though....probably just some mechanics issues that a real QB coach could clean up pretty easily.

I agree....I believe the offense may improve with a new QB. I see the ability to pre-snap read and progress as the biggest things holding us back now. We'll likely miss Dobbs grit, and leadership though.

It's not accuracy, it's touch. He has to know when to throttle down and not dislocate WR's fingers on every throw.
 
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With Dormady's perceived advantage in the passing department over Dobbs the running lanes should open up more due to defenses having to respect the "throw game." Dormady's 4.6 should be sufficient enough.

Agreed...his real advantages are between the ears and a quick release. Those attributes are what will make up for the O-line deficiencies and make this offense click. i fully expect the running game to be fit from being able to stretch the field with the pass.
 
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It's not accuracy, it's touch. He has to know when to throttle down and not dislocate WR's fingers on every throw.

That too....I think the spoken of accuracy issues are a product of that. Easy fix with a little coaching.
 
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Efficient, Prolific, High Scoring Offenses are for WIMPS!! :blink:
Sincerely,
Mike Debord




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It's not accuracy, it's touch. He has to know when to throttle down and not dislocate WR's fingers on every throw.

Indeed, touch is what separates the average QB from great ones, it's so vitally important.....
 
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Throw the bank at Kingsburry or Helfrich who are likely on their way out as HC at their respective schools.

Helfrich has been mediocre everywhere he's been . Chip Kelly ran the whole thing when he was there helfrich was a puppet. Once Mariotta and Chips players were gone he was back to his Colorado Arizona mediocrity. No THX.

I don't know Kingsbury's past but didn't he let walk-on Baker Mayfield leave and not offer him a scholarship?
 
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