Hendrix opens up about transfer

[VOODOOVOL]

That wasn't you in 82 that Bobby Jackson ran into on the sideline and split his open when he hit the side of an equipment cart was it? lol He ran into an "observer" during a scrimmage while he was running behind Ken Jones on a scoop and score during a scrimmage. Supposedly that's where the old "Jackson" rule materialized barring "observer's" from practice.

I think Majors almost fell out of the tower laughing until he figured out that his D-coordinator needed several stitches.

That's what I heard anyway.

Ha! I was in high school

 

[VOODOOVOL]

That thing has been around since the 1930's. E6B. We still had to carry them even though we had dual head INS and FSAS (fuel savings and advisory system) and even a flight engineer and sometimes a navigator.

Couldn't advance to VFR training till you could show you knew how to use it.
My prof was in WWII and Korea. He set a speed record from California to New York in a F-80.

 

[FLSTF-VOL]

Couldn't advance to VFR training till you could show you knew how to use it.
My prof was in WWII and Korea. He set a speed record from California to New York in a F-80.

Col W. H. Council, Jan 26, 1946 4hrs. 13min and 26sec. P-80 Shooting Star. Longbeach to overhead Laguardia. Same guy?

 

[griffdog14]

yall are ridiculous.

 

[OrangeDog]

MAN! After "reading" through this, its no wonder he transferred.

 

[P.O.T.S. VOL]

You guys are idiots and I say that in an affectionate way. Not everyone fits in with the culture, here. Some of that is on the player that can't handle mental adversity, some of that is on the coaches for pushing too hard at times. It happens and is not exclusive to Butch Jones or UT. Do you honestly think that coaches like Saban, Spurrier, etc pamper players? Wish the kids the best of luck and don't freaking panic like a bunch of morons every time a kid isn't happy about the situation he is in.

SPOT ON!

It really does happen everywhere! It gets blown out of proportion when people want to assume that it is an "issue" with the coaching staff and that it needs to be fixed! It serves no purpose, except to serves one's self purpose of believing they can make changes with dozens and dozens of repetitive posts. But hey, that's the purpose of this board!

I don't know what happened! I do not seriously blame anyone! It hasn't happened enough to be able to prove anything! Losing depth when you have none is an issue, that's where we are! But that doesn't mean there is an issue with this staff!

 

[P.O.T.S. VOL]

Possibly, but if you brought in 34 and 4 didn't work out, that would be a success. To answer your example, if you recruit 8 to a position group and 4 are left after two years, then after 4 years you would have a quality 8 at the position. I'm happy with that. I think CBJ is just amassing stud after stud at almost all the positions, and after a few years we will have the best of the best at every position. Then it's just replenish the spots needed as they leave. I would definitely deem it a success if you recruited 8 and a quality 4 were left each two year period.

Yep! Rome wasn't built in a day!

 

[dxhman]

SPOT ON!

It really does happen everywhere! It gets blown out of proportion when people want to assume that it is an "issue" with the coaching staff and that it needs to be fixed! It serves no purpose, except to serves one's self purpose of believing they can make changes with dozens and dozens of repetitive posts. But hey, that's the purpose of this board!

I don't know what happened! I do not seriously blame anyone! It hasn't happened enough to be able to prove anything! Losing depth when you have none is an issue, that's where we are! But that doesn't mean there is an issue with this staff!

Whoa now....This is not a football thread this is one about the military. This should be posted somewhere else....Just kidding.....All that have served my family truly appreciates and is thankful for your service....

 

[Dave1967]

Sour Grapes and bitterness,i bet there is more to the story.

 

[sjt18]

Look, I can understand your need to maybe question his fandom, but to question his character concerning his military experience is way out of bounds. Especially coming from a fellow soldier. (you were in the Army correct?) I understand the issue we have with false valor, but I don't know of a worse way to insult a soldier, actually an Army Officer, than to question his integrity. Especially in a forum like this where he has no avenue to defend himself.

There are quite a few of us on here that are prior or active duty military that can't, shouldn't and better not get into any specifics about what they do or did.

Don't worry about it too much. Many here will try to make the argument about the person they are arguing with instead of about the issue when they cannot defend their position.

His whole "my DI friend can beat you up" routine is something most of us left behind in about the 3rd grade. I am proud of my service and accomplishments. The relationships built on respect have lasting value. I served with some of the greatest people I have ever known.

He said something about Ft Jackson. As a Reserve training unit, we spent most of our time on Tank Hill. Our standard was the same as the Active Duty. While we weren't "full time", most of the DI's that worked for me had been doing it for more than one enlistment (6+ years) with average experience being around 10 or 12 years whereas most Active DI's were rotated out after a year or 2. Our wartime mission was to expand TNG ops on Ft Jackson and expand the Army's infantry training capacity. For that reason, we spent significant time working with the TRNG Brigade at Ft Benning as well.

I don't want to date myself but at the time... this was an important component of DoD threat response.

 

[sjt18]

Possibly, but if you brought in 34 and 4 didn't work out, that would be a success.

Agree if they are spread out and do not hit one group too hard. If Sawyer makes it which it now seems he might then my concerns will drop quite a bit. DE's seem to have more success without a year + of development than DT's.

To answer your example, if you recruit 8 to a position group and 4 are left after two years, then after 4 years you would have a quality 8 at the position. I'm happy with that.

If you mean just DE then maybe. But if you are talking DT's and DE's together then 8 is nowhere near enough. Eight total or actually 4 at each position would be the bare minimum. (16 total split between SDE, WDE, and the two DT spots)

I think CBJ is just amassing stud after stud at almost all the positions, and after a few years we will have the best of the best at every position.

The point is that they cannot continue to have the attrition they've had. You all may not want to think about it... but I am very sure that Jones is trying to fix it.

 

[Dave1967]

Agree if they are spread out and do not hit one group too hard. If Sawyer makes it which it now seems he might then my concerns will drop quite a bit. DE's seem to have more success without a year + of development than DT's.

If you mean just DE then maybe. But if you are talking DT's and DE's together then 8 is nowhere near enough. Eight total or actually 4 at each position would be the bare minimum. (16 total split between SDE, WDE, and the two DT spots)


The point is that they cannot continue to have the attrition they've had. You all may not want to think about it... but I am very sure that Jones is trying to fix it.

There isn't much you can do,if a player wants to leave they're going to leave.

 

[sjt18]

I played baseball. The most critical in any walk of life are the ones who have done the least. This board is no exception to that rule.

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

How many examples do you want demonstrating that to be untrue? You can start with Jones who has near non-stop criticism of one player or another over his PA system for all the world to hear.

Actually, those who refuse to look at situations honestly and see both good and bad... are the ones who accomplish the least. I would almost wager that you do not and never have applied the rule above to your personal or professional life.

 

[sjt18]

There isn't much you can do,if a player wants to leave they're going to leave.

At the point they leave? No.

However there are many changes you can make to either select people who will stay or else retain people once you have them.

My argument is with those who proclaim that the coaches do not and CAN not bear any blame. They probably do and certainly can. Regardless, they are still responsible for building the roster so they have to evaluate what happened and make changes if necessary.

That's very, very basic organizational management. Failures always have reasons and those reasons can be fixed much of the time.

 

[sjt18]

Again, the only thing you and your ilk point out are problems.

And you and your ilk seem to rely on absolutely false statements as a foundation for falsely accusing other people.

I have and do point out the good and praise what they do well. I have said NUMEROUS times that the development for many of the players over the last off season was "elite". How exactly is that only pointing out problems?

Has he done a good job at UT thus far? Yep. It really isn't much more complicated than that.

Yes. It is more complicated than that. You either have a very low standard for what constitutes a "good" job or else you've just decided to arbitrarily impose your subjective opinion as the "answer" we all must accept.

Jones has done some things very, very well. He has not won enough games to earn "good job"... and they've had some shortcomings and missteps.

However, you constantly knit pick every move he makes and every word that is said. Carry on with your "constructive criticism".

About 999,999 times out of a million when someone uses the word "every", they are making a false accusation. And your accusation could not possibly be more false... but carry on. I know it makes you feel good to attack me rather than actually face the issues...

 

[sameolvol]

Doesn't feel so good does it?

I understand you not wanting to hold those memories in the forefront, however for some of us they tend to remind us of our humanity. You were in a dark place and there wasn't much of anything positive that came from that war. I'm assuming Vietnam, your 13 years older than me so I might have been able to salute.

Through two wars and a conflict I can still find the good in what we did and accomplished over the years. Somalia, the Congo, Hati, Bosnia, so many embassy evacs that I can't remember them all and many many more. Yes, I am damn proud and I'm not apologetic for it.

So yeah, I sided with sjt18. He has high standards and expectations, the military has a funny way of doing that to a person. There is no try, only do. There is no excuse, only solutions. Failure is not an option. etc and so on. More so about his service than anything else. But I would do it for anyone, even you.

You're over-reaching, pal. Get over yourself and get on with the rest of your life. When I got out...I got out, no regrets and lots of formative memories, but I got out! That litany of diatribes you're spouting suggests you can only relate with ROTC flash card answers and not a broad spectrum of the rest of the world. There are colors other than OD green and camo, yet there are some of you who just can't get past what they've decided is the pinnacle of their lives. Get one. Enough of your rhymes.

 

[sjt18]

Now YOU'RE doubting a former soldier's veracity. Shame on you. Hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

So he's somehow hypocritical for doubting you when you doubted me to start the whole thing? And he needs to get over himself?

Truth be told, you have just sided with the crying one .

So the "crying one" is the one who happens to be able to look at what's happening, see the good, see the bad, and face both... but those who engage in all sorts of rationalizations and evasions rather than allow themselves to be faced with the fact that the staff just might bear some blame are the "mature" ones?

Sorry. But that seems pretty upside down to me. And of course you are so "wise" that you can discern someone's strength of character based on a disagreement on a chatboard?


Sidenote: I do appreciate your service in Vietnam. I was in later and during "peace time". However I had some good close friends in the military who went over. My Sr Drill Sgt was a "shake and bake" NCO if you remember what that means with the 173rd. He made a jump with them over there.

 

[butchna]

There's no extra points awarded to those who are first in line to rail about things not working...when it becomes reality, everyone catches on and action is taken.

 

[VOODOOVOL]

Col W. H. Council, Jan 26, 1946 4hrs. 13min and 26sec. P-80 Shooting Star. Longbeach to overhead Laguardia. Same guy?

No it was Col Jack. Can't remember his first name.
I think he flew the B-24 and B-17 in WWII.
Uncle flew B-29s. Another uncle was in P-51s. He got demoted for flying under the Golden Gate bridge.

 

[FLSTF-VOL]

You're over-reaching, pal. Get over yourself and get on with the rest of your life. When I got out...I got out, no regrets and lots of formative memories, but I got out! That litany of diatribes you're spouting suggests you can only relate with ROTC flash card answers and not a broad spectrum of the rest of the world. There are colors other than OD green and camo, yet there are some of you who just can't get past what they've decided is the pinnacle of their lives. Get one. Enough of your rhymes.

You got out, I stayed and retired. So, yeah I guess it is the pinnacle of my life. Why should I not see it as such? Are you suggesting that having a long and distinguished career in the military is not worthy? That it somehow pales in comparison, to say, a retired record executive?

Am I the one who really needs to get over themselves? Your replies don't suggest that you hold yourself in high regard in the least. Not at all. I'm sure you really don't have the narrow view about us military types that your replies suggest.

By the way, I'm not your pal and when I get ready to stop with my rhymes, I will. Got that?

 

[landscapingvol]

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

How many examples do you want demonstrating that to be untrue? You can start with Jones who has near non-stop criticism of one player or another over his PA system for all the world to hear.

Actually, those who refuse to look at situations honestly and see both good and bad... are the ones who accomplish the least. I would almost wager that you do not and never have applied the rule above to your personal or professional life.

Putting an emoticon in a response doesn't magically make it funny, well boy wonder generally as a rule of thumb in life those who have a lot of experience in any area are more patient and understanding of others mistakes. Clearly, you disagree and I put about as much stock in that as any other of your teenage girl rants.

 

[landscapingvol]

And you and your ilk seem to rely on absolutely false statements as a foundation for falsely accusing other people.

I have and do point out the good and praise what they do well. I have said NUMEROUS times that the development for many of the players over the last off season was "elite". How exactly is that only pointing out problems?

Yes. It is more complicated than that. You either have a very low standard for what constitutes a "good" job or else you've just decided to arbitrarily impose your subjective opinion as the "answer" we all must accept.

Jones has done some things very, very well. He has not won enough games to earn "good job"... and they've had some shortcomings and missteps.


About 999,999 times out of a million when someone uses the word "every", they are making a false accusation. And your accusation could not possibly be more false... but carry on. I know it makes you feel good to attack me rather than actually face the issues...

Please enlighten us all as to what he could have done better and what coach that was interested in UT would have not made those same mistakes. He is the best candidate/coach for the job at you UT. Overall, he has done an outstanding job. We all know you disagree but there is no need to retype it every time a thread is created.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I have to admit I followed his recruitment closely and thought he was one of the best of the 2014 class and would have a great career...It is a letdown to see him go but Barnett's much better than expected season definitely eases some the sting here.

 

[Evet Vols]

Coach Jones is bringing in the talent! Today on Swain's show he basically said he will not change because he is bringing a winning mindset and a culture for the future.

This expectation will be passed on by the current players and be expected from the future players. No Energy Vampires!! Go Vols!!!

 

[nagle]

So he's somehow hypocritical for doubting you when you doubted me to start the whole thing? And he needs to get over himself?



So the "crying one" is the one who happens to be able to look at what's happening, see the good, see the bad, and face both... but those who engage in all sorts of rationalizations and evasions rather than allow themselves to be faced with the fact that the staff just might bear some blame are the "mature" ones?

Sorry. But that seems pretty upside down to me. And of course you are so "wise" that you can discern someone's strength of character based on a disagreement on a chatboard?


Sidenote: I do appreciate your service in Vietnam. I was in later and during "peace time". However I had some good close friends in the military who went over. My Sr Drill Sgt was a "shake and bake" NCO if you remember what that means with the 173rd. He made a jump with them over there.

my god, put a tampon in man and stfu, holy **** you ***** and complain about everything.

your the one acting like the wise one and all your doing is just wasting space and breathing someone else air.