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#76
#76
You are not going to bait me into this. I fell for it last night. But today, in the cold light of another Central Florida gloomy overcast morning, you are not going to get me to tie either the University of Florida to Grossman or UT to Manning.

Newsflash: They don't play there anymore.
 
#77
#77
lawgator1 said:
You are not going to bait me into this. I fell for it last night. But today, in the cold light of another Central Florida gloomy overcast morning, you are not going to get me to tie either the University of Florida to Grossman or UT to Manning.

Newsflash: They don't play there anymore.
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who'd you root for?
 
#78
#78
GVF said:
Not bad for a shakey QB.
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I'm not sure I agree that Rex has the natural talent to be a top notch QB, but that is kind of beside the point; usually teams with mediocre quarterbacks do not win the Superbowl. There are a few exceptions-- Dilfer, Johnson, and Hostetler come to mind--but for the most part, superbowl rings adorn the fingers of big name quarterbacks.
 
#79
#79
jakez4ut said:
who'd you root for?
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Chicago, but not because of Grossman. I actually pretty much hate the NFL so in such circumstances I root for the underdgo just because.

To me, the game at that level is all hype, no substance. Too packaged. Too commercial. Put it this way: I actually was watching the movie "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" as much as I watched that game. That's the animation/comedy where Don Knotts falls into the ocean and becomes a fish and helps a U.S. destroyer track down enemy submarines.
 
#80
#80
TN Vol 0320 said:
Why would we do that? We have put just as many of our d-line guys, if not more, in the NFL than has Florida. John Henderson, Haynesworth, Harylson, McDaniel, and many many more, and about to add Justin Harrell to that mix, as well as Turk McBride. I would say we have done our part...
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Good point. It may be more of an issue with actually recruiting them lately. Our incoming class aside, LG makes a good point about Florida's ability to recruit the D-Line guys.
 
#81
#81
lawgator1 said:
Chicago, but not because of Grossman. I actually pretty much hate the NFL so in such circumstances I root for the underdgo just because.

To me, the game at that level is all hype, no substance. Too packaged. Too commercial. Put it this way: I actually was watching the movie "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" as much as I watched that game. That's the animation/comedy where Don Knotts falls into the ocean and becomes a fish and helps a U.S. destroyer track down enemy submarines.
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The Incredible Mr. Limpet - I think we just found your new nickname, LG :p
 
#82
#82
cotton said:
I'm not sure I agree that Rex has the natural talent to be a top notch QB, but that is kind of beside the point; usually teams with mediocre quarterbacks do not win the Superbowl. There are a few exceptions-- Dilfer, Johnson, and Hostetler come to mind--but for the most part, superbowl rings adorn the fingers of big name quarterbacks.
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I'm not so sure Rex has the talent. I think a lot of his hype and draft pick was because of Spurrier. After Spurrier, Grossman has been average.
 
#84
#84
champyvol said:
he maybe the worst QB to ever play in the Super Bowl.
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in the game? or for his career? I am not a Grossman fan but 20-28 165yards 1 td and 2INT is not terrible and definitely not the worst. The Patriot's QB in 1986 went 0-6 in the game.

As a Falcon's fan he gets my vote but that is personal. He didn't even make ESPN's list:
Chris Chandler 1998 *1998 den L,19-34 | 19 35 219yrds 1td 3 int | 4 30 0

Grossman is not the worst he is somewhere in the middle of these guys

ESPN.com - NFL/PLAYOFFS06 - You want ugly? Check out these QB performances
 
#85
#85
Bennett4UT said:
in the game? or for his career? I am not a Grossman fan but 20-28 165yards 1 td and 2INT is not terrible and definitely not the worst. The Patriot's QB in 1986 went 0-6 in the game.

As a Falcon's fan he gets my vote but that is personal. He didn't even make ESPN's list:
Chris Chandler 1998 *1998 den L,19-34 | 19 35 219yrds 1td 3 int | 4 30 0

Grossman is not the worst he is somewhere in the middle of these guys

ESPN.com - NFL/PLAYOFFS06 - You want ugly? Check out these QB performances
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Arrrghhh... Chris Chandler .. the horror, the horror.

Make it stop, make it stop...

That was a brutal beat down of the Falcons.
 
#86
#86
Yeah I hated Christine Chandelier I can't believe he played until 2004. He had a 17 yr carerr
 
#87
#87
Bennett4UT said:
in the game? or for his career? I am not a Grossman fan but 20-28 165yards 1 td and 2INT is not terrible and definitely not the worst. The Patriot's QB in 1986 went 0-6 in the game.

As a Falcon's fan he gets my vote but that is personal. He didn't even make ESPN's list:
Chris Chandler 1998 *1998 den L,19-34 | 19 35 219yrds 1td 3 int | 4 30 0

Grossman is not the worst he is somewhere in the middle of these guys

ESPN.com - NFL/PLAYOFFS06 - You want ugly? Check out these QB performances
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That list just focuses on SB performances; I'm not sure you could put Rex at the bottom of a list that includes Tony Eason, David Woodley, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Stan Humphries, Chris Chandler, Kerry Collins, or Jake Delhomme for total careers, either.
 
#88
#88
lawgator1 said:
Chicago, but not because of Grossman. I actually pretty much hate the NFL so in such circumstances I root for the underdgo just because.

To me, the game at that level is all hype, no substance. Too packaged. Too commercial. Put it this way: I actually was watching the movie "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" as much as I watched that game. That's the animation/comedy where Don Knotts falls into the ocean and becomes a fish and helps a U.S. destroyer track down enemy submarines.
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OK...........? and i'm sure you understand where the following is coming from, but it just sounds like a cop out to me. not saying it is, but it sounds like it. the bears and rex lose, and you don't care. you were rooting for the bears, but not because of rex...or alex brown i would assume.

I assume from you post earlier that you on here last night, i wasn't, so i don't know what you were saying during/after the game. so, i'm just relaying my percepiton of what i read here.......you very well may not care one way or the other..........but it is convenitnet that the resident gator all the sudden could care less about one of his own losing, and looking bad in doing so, the super bowl to who many gator fans think was their personal whipping boy in Peyton Manning and Tennessee.

had the bears won.........i just wonder if the conversation would be different.......we'll never know of course......but.........

i have no problem in saying that i rooted for INdy simply because Peyton was playing. and if he hadn't, i probably would have rooted against the Bears simply because of Rex and Alex had they been playing someone else, save the patriots.

i think most on here know that i am a Steeler fan and a Panther fan when it comes to the NFL. but since neither were in it (i rooted for the Steelers against hte Colts last year in the playoffs mind you), it was easy for me to side with the colts to see if Peyton could get a ring.
 
#89
#89
And now, back on topic...

Not only can Fulmer and Cutcliffe tell recruits that they helped develop Peyton, but they also have the advantage of Peyton keeping in touch with UT quarterbacks. Ainge has said on several occasions that Peyton has called him.

Nice recruiting tool to say that you'll be talking to and working with the Super Bowl MVP...

:dance2: :rock:
 
#90
#90
cotton said:
That list just focuses on SB performances; I'm not sure you could put Rex at the bottom of a list that includes Tony Eason, David Woodley, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypien, Stan Humphries, Chris Chandler, Kerry Collins, or Jake Delhomme for total careers, either.
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his super bowl performance was actully very, very good. he did everything but win it. he actually holds a few SB and play off records as a result of the 03 season....
 
#91
#91
I will say Peyton got his super bowl but without the play of his o/l,d backs,Rhodes,Adai,(Rhodes might have really been MVP even), PM has no super bowl ring.
 
#92
#92
Yeah, but w/o the play of Peyton, the Colts have no super bowl appearance. Sure, he needed their help in the game and over the course of the season, but they certainly needed his help.
 
#93
#93
lawgator1 said:
Chicago, but not because of Grossman. I actually pretty much hate the NFL so in such circumstances I root for the underdgo just because.

To me, the game at that level is all hype, no substance. Too packaged. Too commercial. Put it this way: I actually was watching the movie "The Incredible Mr. Limpet" as much as I watched that game. That's the animation/comedy where Don Knotts falls into the ocean and becomes a fish and helps a U.S. destroyer track down enemy submarines.
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i rooted for the bears to. i have been a bears fan all my life and we need a new QB. Grossman is terrible.
 
#94
#94
utfantilidie said:
I will say Peyton got his super bowl but without the play of his o/l,d backs,Rhodes,Adai,(Rhodes might have really been MVP even), PM has no super bowl ring.
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Rhodes had a huge game. Adai played great (Rhodes picked up a lot of yards late in the game against a more tired Beard D IMO) ... but a lot of his yards were in the air ... and only because Peyton saw he could dump it off instead of getting greedy over the top. Those yards are as much Peyton's as Adai's. As for the o/l ... the did a good job...but the Bears also backed off at times ... and, let's not forget...he almost got sacked as he threw the TD pass.
 
#96
#96
utfantilidie said:
I will say Peyton got his super bowl but without the play of his o/l,d backs,Rhodes,Adai,(Rhodes might have really been MVP even), PM has no super bowl ring.
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W/O a good coaching staff, loyal fans, good facilities, etc., etc., and so forth, they also would not have one. If only Peyton could win the big one, Colts payroll would be reduced to ole' #18 and he'd travel solo. Too much was made of "him" not being able to win the big one. Or Grossman being too bad a QB to have led a team to the SB. Regardless of the commercialism, the NFL is a team sport still. If PM were in ATL he'd still not have a ring.
 
#97
#97
utfantilidie said:
I will say Peyton got his super bowl but without the play of his o/l,d backs,Rhodes,Adai,(Rhodes might have really been MVP even), PM has no super bowl ring.
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If not for his defense giving up 200+ yds. rushing to New England a few years ago...

If not for Vanderjagt missing a field goal against the Steelers last year...

If not for Dungy's family tradegy at the end of the season last year...

Come on - Peyton checked into the right plays, didn't force the ball, engineered time consuming drives, completed 66% of his passes --- He played good! The rest of the team played good! It's called football and it's a team game.
 
#98
#98
utfantilidie said:
I will say Peyton got his super bowl but without the play of his o/l,d backs,Rhodes,Adai,(Rhodes might have really been MVP even), PM has no super bowl ring.
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Honestly, if you change the names, this is true of most SB winning teams. That is why they win.
 
#99
#99
utfantilidie said:
I will say Peyton got his super bowl but without the play of his o/l,d backs,Rhodes,Adai,(Rhodes might have really been MVP even), PM has no super bowl ring.
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Ugghh, I figured this was coming. Peyton did win, but.....

Sheesh.
 
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