Hardesty at FB?

#26
#26
Liper said:
Our TEs and FBs are interchangable in our offense. They are using our TE as a fullback, particularly when Cottam was healthy and we could go 2 TE sets.

Also, I'm not quite getting why everyone wants to annoint Creer as the next Chuck Webb because he made one spin move. He may end being good, but we don't know yet.

Coker is our best; and without him playing, we are pretty much dead average at TB in the SEC.

KY, GA, SC, BAMA, ARK, LSU, MISS all have RBs at least as good as ours. Some of them have more than one better than ours.
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How is Coker our best RB? He has 11 yds on the season. I know it was his first game back and all, but seriously. Hopefully he gets better before Saturday rolls around. Also, Creer needs to cover the ball when he runs. He holds it like a loaf of bread.
 
#28
#28
Hardesty is a natural tailback, he would not be a very good FB. He is still healing and learning but he will get is chances. We still have a long hard season and need the depth. Coker is a change of pace back. Creer looks exciting but we haven't seen enough yet.
 
#29
#29
Liper said:
Coker is our best; and without him playing, we are pretty much dead average at TB in the SEC.
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yeah...lets start Coker...1 yard per carry for 99 times and then he will finally break a long one...against La- Lafayette. Meanwhile UT loses every game until then..

Foster is THE man...its time people got used to it.
 
#30
#30
QUOTE=govols182;876727]How is Coker our best RB? He has 11 yds on the season. I know it was his first game back and all, but seriously. Hopefully he gets better before Saturday rolls around. Also, Creer needs to cover the ball when he runs. He holds it like a loaf of bread.[/QUOTE]

You evidently are basing this on raw talent. What has he done this summer for the team besides be a distraction? Foster has become faster,stronger, and a more determined football player for the VOLS. I hope we can integrate Creer into the mix similar to how Foster helped Riggs Jr. Coker needs to decide if he wants to play football or walk in the footsteps of James Banks.
 
#32
#32
f1ip said:
QUOTE=govols182;876727]How is Coker our best RB? He has 11 yds on the season. I know it was his first game back and all, but seriously. Hopefully he gets better before Saturday rolls around. Also, Creer needs to cover the ball when he runs. He holds it like a loaf of bread.
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You evidently are basing this on raw talent. What has he done this summer for the team besides be a distraction? Foster has become faster,stronger, and a more determined football player for the VOLS. I hope we can integrate Creer into the mix similar to how Foster helped Riggs Jr. Coker needs to decide if he wants to play football or walk in the footsteps of James Banks.[/QUOTE]

I've been saying the whole time that Foster is our best back. Have you not been reading my posts including the one you quoted?
 
#33
#33
Coker averaged over 6.5 yds/carry last year behind a pathetic OL, more than three yards higher than anyone else.

Because he hasn't played doesn't mean he's not better; it means he hasn't played.

I'm not knocking Foster, because he's looking more like the Foster of 2005...a good player. In fact, he is a very complete player. But Coker is a better runner, IMO, and it seems pretty obvious. Maybe not to some.
 
#34
#34
Liper said:
Coker averaged over 6.5 yds/carry last year behind a pathetic OL, more than three yards higher than anyone else.

Because he hasn't played doesn't mean he's not better; it means he hasn't played.

I'm not knocking Foster, because he's looking more like the Foster of 2005...a good player. In fact, he is a very complete player. But Coker is a better runner, IMO, and it seems pretty obvious. Maybe not to some.
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I've yet to see Coker patiently be a consistent runner. Congrats on running on Memphis, Marshall and Vandy.
 
#35
#35
I belive that this has been talked about already but there are NO scholarship FB's on the team.Ryan Hill is the only true Fb.
 
#36
#36
our LB's are smaller than most in the league, he could be overpowered by SEC LB's. I miss seeing Anderson back there, "the good hands man."
 
#37
#37
VolinArizona said:
Chris Brown, in these 2 games, has done AMAZING when he's lined up as the backfield H-Back.
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Exactly the point that I was going to make. CB is a great talent here at UT an I look for him to have a big season this year in a very versatile role. He takes the game to the D.
 
#39
#39
50vol said:
I belive that this has been talked about already but there are NO scholarship FB's on the team.Ryan Hill is the only true Fb.
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Kevin Cooper. 6 foot and 240 lbs.

He'll be the fullback if UT goes back to the I-formation a lot after this season. Right now Stocker has been used as a fullback when they go to the I.
 
#40
#40
Cut said during the spring, they had two TE's they wanted to use more and promising WR's they wanted to use more. Of course Brad Cottam was one of those two TE's, now gone three more weeks.
But do you think the no huddle caters more to the non-fullback package? It seems it is more of a west coast, safety valve offense we are running?

I just wonder how much the no huddle has to do, if any, with the no FB scheme.
 
#41
#41
He would be trampled... Chris Brown would do better at the fullback spot. Then leave Cottam at TE and use Hardesty/Coker as an extra WR on the field.


Not exclusively.... just once in awhile.
 
#42
#42
Hardesty was a little banged up in the So Miss game. He had hurt his ankle in the Cal game. That is why he go so few carries. We cannot count on Coker because he is one mistake away from being off the team. That means Hardesty is one injury away from being the main guy. Hardesty will be a good RB. He is our most complete back (running, blocking, catching).
 
#44
#44
Thus far, Hardesty lacks the vision to be a good back, just from what I've seen.

The coaches keep talking about him, so maybe he can be a good player.
 
#45
#45
VOLnFLORIDA said:
Cut said during the spring, they had two TE's they wanted to use more and promising WR's they wanted to use more. Of course Brad Cottam was one of those two TE's, now gone three more weeks.
But do you think the no huddle caters more to the non-fullback package? It seems it is more of a west coast, safety valve offense we are running?

I just wonder how much the no huddle has to do, if any, with the no FB scheme.
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mistake
 
#47
#47
First of all I'm not an idiot; I know that we don't run a FB most of the time, but we have for the last 25 years. Therefore maybe Hardesty could bulk up for next year, because he definitely is not an SEC TB. If he's only 205 I'll eat his jock. Also remember Eric Lane he wasn't that big at the position either.
 
#48
#48
BACKDOC said:
First of all I'm not an idiot; I know that we don't run a FB most of the time, but we have for the last 25 years. Therefore maybe Hardesty could bulk up for next year, because he definitely is not an SEC TB. If he's only 205 I'll eat his jock. Also remember Eric Lane he wasn't that big at the position either.
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Did you say that with so much conviction and yet still have a straight face? There is absolutely no way to say that yet. The only times we have seen him somewhat healthy he has looked good and the coaches say that when healthy he has all the tools to be a very good SEC back.

And, I dont understand how you can be so steadfast about something that is not debatable and is obvious to be false. His weight is not in question. We know how much he weighs and its right at 200 pounds.
 
#49
#49
BACKDOC said:
First of all I'm not an idiot; I know that we don't run a FB most of the time, but we have for the last 25 years. Therefore maybe Hardesty could bulk up for next year, because he definitely is not an SEC TB. If he's only 205 I'll eat his jock. Also remember Eric Lane he wasn't that big at the position either.
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I guess Arian isn't a SEC TB either because Hardesty was in front of him on the depth chart in 05 until he hurt his knee
 
#50
#50
justingroves said:
I guess Arian isn't a SEC TB either because Hardesty was in front of him on the depth chart in 05 until he hurt his knee
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Maybe before he hurt his knee he was an SEC TB, but what has he done since. I can tell you; one long TD run against a shell shocked CAl team.

But you guys do bring up some valid points about him being too small sice at one time he was a DB. Since we've never had a DB to move to MLB like Ellix Wilson. We've never had a MLB grow into a DT either.
 
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