Gus Malzhan / Train

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Cobb-Webb 1989 said:
Pulling for Gus as new HC for Vols

Never had a losing season in the SEC
Has beat Bama / Been to the NC game
Squeaky clean background
No Buyout clause
Recruits good and his players love the guy

And, it's time for UT to prove (to the fans $$$) that they're going all in the get the best-proven HC that's available.

I'd take Kiffin, but he'd just be going for another pay raise like Gundy did to us, two times.
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I'd be on the Gus Bus!...Bring him on down!
 
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If you really really think about it, Gus would be the perfect coach for us long term...He would be taking over a destroyed roster so he could have plenty of time to build his own team...He would build a winner here...Might not be quickly but he will build a winner...He's squeaky clean and his players loved him so he could be our best option...Of course us being UT we are talking about these top coaches and we probably won't even be looking at these coaches when the search begins because that's just what we do!....Get your google searches ready!...We have an elite choice of coaches out there this year with nobody else to compete with to get a good one...We fail this time we might as well throw in the towel.
 
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Cobb-Webb 1989 said:
Pulling for Gus as new HC for Vols

Never had a losing season in the SEC
Has beat Bama / Been to the NC game
Squeaky clean background
No Buyout clause
Recruits good and his players love the guy

And, it's time for UT to prove (to the fans $$$) that they're going all in the get the best-proven HC that's available.

I'd take Kiffin, but he'd just be going for another pay raise like Gundy did to us, two times.
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He's being paid by AU to do nothing, 21m+ buyout. 10m up front.. He's not interested in this mess. Check on him in 5yrs, he might intertain offers then. He's gonna pull a Butch.
 
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Cobb-Webb 1989 said:
Pulling for Gus as new HC for Vols

Never had a losing season in the SEC
Has beat Bama / Been to the NC game
Squeaky clean background
No Buyout clause
Recruits good and his players love the guy

And, it's time for UT to prove (to the fans $$$) that they're going all in the get the best-proven HC that's available.

I'd take Kiffin, but he'd just be going for another pay raise like Gundy did to us, two times.
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squeaky clean...Auburn ????
 
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Yeah, the guy was paid $21 million by his former employer ,that knows him the best, to go away! That's just who we need to hire.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
I think Gus is a really good HC. But I think we should hire someone that can beat Georgia more than twice in 9 yrs. He has had the talent without a doubt to have done so. If you have the talent to beat the arguably greatest HC in college football history 3 out of 8 times...then you should be able to have beaten Georgia 2 or 3 more times than that.

I get that he has beat Saban 3 times out of 8...that is a feat in its self. But we are in the East. Bama beats everybody and Georgia has beaten Gus more times than the Mighty Saban. Just saying.
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You need to trim your expectations. Tennessee is not a top program any longer. At this point Tennessee needs to find a coach that can get to bowls regularly.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
Malzahn absolutely has been owned by Georgia. Sure he has a few wins against Saban but Georgia has his number.
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But he has beaten Georgia since we have (2017). Also won two SEC W championships. Hes Not Saban or Meyer but could be best option we're gonna get. We cant let the perfect be the enemy of the much better than weve had in a long time.
 
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metafour said:
You guys don't want Malzahn, trust me. I mean maybe if you can't get anyone else due to NCAA issues, but that's the only scenario wherein he'd be a "good hire".

1) He's the most stubborn man imaginable. Unwilling to admit to himself that his initial fluke "offensive genius" has been countered and yet he keeps trying to do the same thing over and over again. Despite good offensive recruits, his offense has been bad more often than its been good in the past ~5 years.
2) He's deathly paranoid and has zero coaching network. Won't trust anyone else to help him offensively, so he surrounds himself with "yes men" and former accomplices who won't question his offensive decisions and outright incompetence.
3) Zero ability to develop quarterbacks in his system. Every single top QB that Auburn has signed out of HS has regressed or been a complete flop - and several have signed under him. Bo Nix was a 5-star. Even Jarrett Stidham regressed under him in the two years he was at Auburn. You can't win without a QB and this flaw in itself is basically a fatal flaw.
4) His offensive philosophy is brainless. WR's are pigeonholed into preset roles and everyone on the opposing sidelines has known the playcalls for a while now. Doesn't attack the middle of the field at all or help his quarterback by scripting safety nets or easy completions. He's deathly afraid of turnovers so he'd rather the QB chuck it over the receiver's head 40 yards downfield than attack the middle of the field. Every DC has figured this out.
5) Absolutely abhorrent roster management. He can't even scout his own roster. Auburn has about ~6-7 TE's on roster despite the fact that his offense has no capability to utilize them. The entire positional group gets maybe 10-20 passes thrown their way in the course of an entire season and he keeps bringing more of them in for some reason.
6) Doesn't understand modern program building. This ties into point #2. All of the successful programs are moving to "pro organization" models with heavy off-field support staff and professionals managing recruiting and operations. Malzahn still wants to decide himself who gets recruited, and his judgment is brainless. He has basically collapsed the OL at Auburn by somehow failing to sign any competent HS OT's and going 3-4 seasons in a row wherein he signed 2-3 TOTAL OL per year. Bryan Harsin came in and has offered LOCAL kids from nearby parts of Georgia and Alabama that somehow didn't get an offer from the past staff. He has spent the last few seasons trying the patch up the OL with prayer grad-transfers - it hasn't worked. No offense can function without an OL and any competent coach knows this. Zero OL + zero QB development is the recipe for Auburn's offensive inability.

He's not a good coach. At all. He basically made a career over a few flukes (ie: Cam Newton magic). Even when he had Cam and then Nick Marshall, he didn't even really know what he had until ~3 games into the season in both cases. That brings another point: it takes him basically 3-4 games to start each season to even figure out what he has offensively. Its as if they do nothing in the spring/fall. After Marshall left he had Lamar Jackson basically waiting on an offer that never came (he was Auburn's for the taking). You'd think - hey, we've figured something out with this running-QB thing, but nope. He keeps trying to "prove" something by trying to go with passing QB's, with the problem being that his passing offense is absolutely pedestrian (like HS level) and his ability to develop the necessities of a passing QB is nonexistent.
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Re 2), didnt he hire Chad Morris for OC? An innovative offensive coach not exactly a yes man
 
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Not my top pick but I would not be against it.
Cobb-Webb 1989 said:
Pulling for Gus as new HC for Vols

Never had a losing season in the SEC
Has beat Bama / Been to the NC game
Squeaky clean background
No Buyout clause
Recruits good and his players love the guy

And, it's time for UT to prove (to the fans $$$) that they're going all in the get the best-proven HC that's available.

I'd take Kiffin, but he'd just be going for another pay raise like Gundy did to us, two times.
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hardyemt_p said:
He's being paid by AU to do nothing, 21m+ buyout. 10m up front.. He's not interested in this mess. Check on him in 5yrs, he might intertain offers then. He's gonna pull a Butch.
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There's no mitigation in his contract so he can stack the salary on top of the buyout
 
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LTVol said:
But he has beaten Georgia since we have (2017). Also won two SEC W championships. Hes Not Saban or Meyer but could be best option we're gonna get. We cant let the perfect be the enemy of the much better than weve had in a long time.
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I said he is a really good head coach. If he is all we can get then it is not a bad thing. Since Manning and the Haslams along with the other power boosters that have been reported are involved in righting the program....they are going to have to offer $7-8 million or more for at least 7 seasons with a buyout that can let the next head coach buy a private island in the South Pacific. Of course that is if they are going to get serious about making us dominate in the next 4 years again. With that much money offered....it needs to be someone innovative, motivative, exciting, and really proven. Someone that gets their players playing above their limits.

If it turns into Gus...so be it. Also with the money he is making off of being fired...I would say he will pull an Urban Meyer and be in a College Football sports caster for a while. Just my opinion.
 
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#124
very few on this site will have a seat at the table making these decisions so

rant away, LOL
 
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#125
Gus gets my vote. Never had a losing season. NC winner. Proven longevity as a SEC HC. Sign him to a long term contract and let's get this program at least stabilized.

Maybe this is me looking too far into things, but I was thinking last night that the Steele hire was a forward move to bring in Malhzan. Giving Steele authority to hire defensive staff hints to me that Malzhan can walk into the hire with his defensive staff complete or near complete.
 
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