Gun control debate (merged)

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85SugarVol said:
Real Clear Politics is a respected outlet. Probably skew right of center, but a fairly moderate, non-partisan outfit.

They’re in the middle between Reuters and The Hill -

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Their sister site Real Clear Investigations may be the most thorough investigative reporting out there. Not seen anyone as detailed.

The left tosses rocks at Just The News - John Solomon - but they do so in spite of his profuse annotation with government documents.
 
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McDad said:
And to your point, if those who desperately want more restrictions, they get the most bang for their buck (sorry for the pun) by going after handguns.

That would be detrimental to DGUs, unless a lot of people are showing their AR to thwart crime.
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Handgun ban has always the goal of semiauto rifle bans. That’s the progression prohibitionists have envisioned.

Oops - 85Sugar is on the ball.
 
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rjd970 said:
It's actually very relevant. I would suspect you respond with something like this because you know BLM was a destructive and a sham of a movement. And I'm not talking about some of the legitimate grievances BLM was underpinned by...I'm talking about the way they went about exercising protest of those grievances. The comparison is most certainly apt in this case.

Want to make a statement for your cause and get coverage for it while staying within legal 1st amendment guidelines? This guy did exactly that without the anarchy and Tom foolery.
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I support BLM 100%.

An example of a sham of a movement would be the Stop The Steal morons. And this is still going well over two years after the election. Now that's a sham.

Strapping on an AR 15 and spending weeks at a kids bus stop is the very definition of tomfoolery. This guy is an idiot.
 
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luthervol said:
I love the Chicago example because Chicago is a great example of why the laws need to be federalized.
Chicago's gun problems are largely the result of the lax laws of surrounding states.
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Do you give any weight to the residents of Chicago?
 
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LouderVol said:
he's been listening to Joe "Blow Your Lungs Out" Biden. Or Joe "Just Use a Shotgun to be Less Deadly" Biden.

I always love the "A rifle is an unreasonable self defense weapon, but a shot gun is much more humane", when during WW1 it was shotguns that the Germans were worried about, not rifles, artillery, gas attacks, mines. Effing shotguns were too violent for WW1, but all these idiots think its the more friendly option.
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I get the gist of what you‘re saying, but no, the Germans (and everyone else) were much more afraid of artillery.
 
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TN Ribs said:
I support BLM 100%.

An example of a sham of a movement would be the Stop The Steal morons. And this is still going well over two years after the election. Now that's a sham.

Strapping on an AR 15 and spending weeks at a kids bus stop is the very definition of tomfoolery. This guy is an idiot.
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You should go donate. Looks like they’re struggling right now. Looks like the race baiters in charge done robbed them blind.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Well don’t go overboard, man. Lol.

Come on, you’re always putting percentages on things.

How much would you place on the people of Indiana, and how much on the people of Chicago?
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I don't know. It's a little like the drug dealer vs consumer issue. They're both guilty in different ways. I think anyone who illegal deals guns should be shot in the knee and branded with a big d*ck on their forehead. I think anyone who illegally purchases a gun should be shot in the elbow and castrated.
 
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luthervol said:
I don't know. It's a little like the drug dealer vs consumer issue. They're both guilty in different ways. I think anyone who illegal deals guns should be shot in the knee and branded with a big d*ck on their forehead. I think anyone who illegally purchases a gun should be shot in the elbow and castrated.
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You’re the undisputed VN champ of assigning percentages. I’m sure you could if you wanted to.
 
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luthervol said:
I don't know. It's a little like the drug dealer vs consumer issue. They're both guilty in different ways. I think anyone who illegal deals guns should be shot in the knee and branded with a big d*ck on their forehead. I think anyone who illegally purchases a gun should be shot in the elbow and castrated.
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But you’ll be first in line to hand out needles and crack pipes.
 
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85SugarVol said:
You’re the undisputed VN champ of assigning percentages. I’m sure you could if you wanted to.
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I'm not exactly sure what you are asking me to assign percentages to.
The ease in which a gun can be purchased illegally in Chicago?
The amount of gun violence in Chicago?
 
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luthervol said:
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking me to assign percentages to.
The ease in which a gun can be purchased illegally in Chicago?
The amount of gun violence in Chicago?
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Chicago's gun problems are largely the result of the lax laws of surrounding states.
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Do you give any weight to the residents of Chicago?
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Sure.
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So what percentage of “Chicago’s gun problems” are the result of lax gun laws in surrounding states? And how much lay with the people of Chicago?
 
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