Gun control debate (merged)

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LouderVol said:
always felt like toys when I use them. and not in the way the 2A typically goes on about them. always feel very plastic'y, and relatively easy to break. something always rattles or shifts, and just doesn't feel as tight as I prefer. my rifle of choice can double as a club, and has a nice heft to it.

pretty much every single selling point of an AR is something I am not looking for.
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If that's the case, you need to increase your AR budget, LOL.
 
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LouderVol said:
always felt like toys when I use them. and not in the way the 2A typically goes on about them. always feel very plastic'y, and relatively easy to break. something always rattles or shifts, and just doesn't feel as tight as I prefer. my rifle of choice can double as a club, and has a nice heft to it.

pretty much every single selling point of an AR is something I am not looking for.
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You should handle an actual M16.
 
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turbovol said:
Funny statement.

"Put a clip in it and let your kids play with it--they'll love it."

"Buy one for every member of your family and take a picture
of everyone holding theirs and standing around the Christmas tree--makes a great MAGA Christmas card!"

"Take it out and show it to your neighbors--let them fire off a few rounds at that homeless guy down the street. They'll be more impressed than they were when you showed them your new smoker!"

"Your wife may want to buy one and give it as a present at a baby shower. And, she can use it in the kitchen for stirring!"

"It's the perfect gift for men who live in the country and need something to do!"
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Your starting to get it. And it’s a magazine not a “clip” . Right there is your stupidity on the subject. Start polishing the rainbow sticker on your combat boots and I may take you seriously.
 
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I thought about the numbers shared from the Real Clear Investigations article a bit more last night. And now that Sugar posted the news bias chart showing RCI has a middle of the road approach, I want to share.

At 2 million defensive gun uses per year, there are slightly less than 5,500 DGUs every day. At 95% of DGUs consisting of simply showing the weapon to the other person(s), there are about 5,200 of those events on average every day.

My thought: If 1% of those moments where DGUs are currently used were to change where the attacker killed the person, 54 people would die everyday. That is almost 20,000 people per year.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
If that's the case, you need to increase your AR budget, LOL.
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I have fired about a dozen different ones, and held at least another dozen. Spend about 10 minutes at gun shows just picking them up, they just never feel right to me. and I am big on the ergonomics of what you choose to use.
 
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McDad said:
I thought about the numbers shared from the Real Clear Investigations article a bit more last night. And now that Sugar posted the news bias chart showing RCI has a middle of the road approach, I want to share.

At 2 million defensive gun uses per year, there are slightly less than 5,500 DGUs every day. At 95% of DGUs consisting of simply showing the weapon to the other person(s), there are about 5,200 of those events on average every day.

My thought: If 1% of those moments where DGUs are currently used were to change where the attacker killed the person, 54 people would die everyday. That is almost 20,000 people per year.
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even if you reduce that down to .1% thats still a significant number of cases.

the gun grabbers have absolutely no context for how bad things can be.
 
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LouderVol said:
even if you reduce that down to .1% thats still a significant number of cases.

the gun grabbers have absolutely no context for how bad things can be.
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And to your point, if those who desperately want more restrictions, they get the most bang for their buck (sorry for the pun) by going after handguns.

That would be detrimental to DGUs, unless a lot of people are showing their AR to thwart crime.
 
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McDad said:
And to your point, if those who desperately want more restrictions, they get the most bang for their buck (sorry for the pun) by going after handguns.

That would be detrimental to DGUs, unless a lot of people are showing their AR to thwart crime.
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They want the handguns. That’s the prize. The AR is simply a necessary step, and makes for an emotionally effective story.
 
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McDad said:
And to your point, if those who desperately want more restrictions, they get the most bang for their buck (sorry for the pun) by going after handguns.

That would be detrimental to DGUs, unless a lot of people are showing their AR to thwart crime.
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agreed. their obsession's with ARs is counterproductive to their alleged goals. Imagine trying to argue that only 200 or so of the 24,000 deaths matter enough to address.
 
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LouderVol said:
I have fired about a dozen different ones, and held at least another dozen. Spend about 10 minutes at gun shows just picking them up, they just never feel right to me. and I am big on the ergonomics of what you choose to use.
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Just because earlier in the thread you mentioned they felt plasticky, rattly, easy to break......

Mini-14 Ranch rifle. Wood stock.

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/Ruger-Mini-14-Ranch-Rifle-Semi-Auto-Rifle-with-Wood-Stock

Different capacity mags too.
 
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San Francisco bill would prevent private security guards from carrying guns

"On Tuesday, San Francisco District 5 Supervisor Dean Preston announced that he would be introducing legislation aimed at limiting the use of guns by security guards at businesses across the city.

The self-proclaimed "democratic socialist" said the current laws give security personnel too much freedom to resort to violence to protect property. and suggested the rules should be amended to prohibit them from using weapons when there is no physical danger present."
 
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jmacvols1 said:
San Francisco bill would prevent private security guards from carrying guns

"On Tuesday, San Francisco District 5 Supervisor Dean Preston announced that he would be introducing legislation aimed at limiting the use of guns by security guards at businesses across the city.

The self-proclaimed "democratic socialist" said the current laws give security personnel too much freedom to resort to violence to protect property. and suggested the rules should be amended to prohibit them from using weapons when there is no physical danger present."
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“Too much freedom… to protect property”
 
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lulz
 
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