Gun control debate (merged)

#18,076
#18,076
K-town Vol Fan said:
So I should just accept the fact that thousands lose their lives every day in the USA because of gun violence bet every other major country has figured out how to prevent it? I'd like to think we are smarter than that....but I doubt it.
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Makes you wonder why everyone wants to come here.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
So I should just accept the fact that thousands lose their lives every day in the USA because of gun violence bet every other major country has figured out how to prevent it? I'd like to think we are smarter than that....but I doubt it.

And BTW I'm just an average civilian posting on a kids sport message board. I dont have the ability to change ****.
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Yes.
Then address the actual problem which isn’t the tool being used
 
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C-south said:
If you think it won’t be politicized then you are being ignorant. Someone that decides to shoot someone is a criminal regardless of venue.
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I didn’t say that. Some folks will certainly politicize it. I don’t care about politics. I go on what I see. Thirteen innocent people in my town got shot today by a clown with an automatic weapon who had no business owning one. I don’t know but I’m pretty sure when the 2nd amendment was written, they didn’t envision people being able to own an automatic weapon with a 30 round clip. Back then they had muskets and single shot pistols. A far cry from the weapons available today. Again I own guns. I just don’t believe assault rifles should be available to the general public. And I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
 
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Delmar said:
I didn’t say that. Some folks will certainly politicize it. I don’t care about politics. I go on what I see. Thirteen innocent people in my town got shot today by a clown with an automatic weapon who had no business owning one. I don’t know but I’m pretty sure when the 2nd amendment was written, they didn’t envision people being able to own an automatic weapon with a 30 round clip. Back then they had muskets and single shot pistols. A far cry from the weapons available today. Again I own guns. I just don’t believe assault rifles should be available to the general public. And I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
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so are you 100% sure about the "automatic weapon" part? and do you understand what an automatic weapon is? just checking, xiden's ATF nominee clown did not have a clue.
 
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#18,084
Delmar said:
I didn’t say that. Some folks will certainly politicize it. I don’t care about politics. I go on what I see. Thirteen innocent people in my town got shot today by a clown with an automatic weapon who had no business owning one. I don’t know but I’m pretty sure when the 2nd amendment was written, they didn’t envision people being able to own an automatic weapon with a 30 round clip. Back then they had muskets and single shot pistols. A far cry from the weapons available today. Again I own guns. I just don’t believe assault rifles should be available to the general public. And I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
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For clarity which weapons should be banned IYO?
 
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C-south said:
It’s a good think you didn’t frame the 2nd amendment then. It’s not up to you to decide what type of gun someone needs or should be able to own.
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Do you think the founding fathers envisioned every Tom, Dick and Harry having automatic weapons with 30 round clips? Doubtful.
 
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Delmar said:
I didn’t say that. Some folks will certainly politicize it. I don’t care about politics. I go on what I see. Thirteen innocent people in my town got shot today by a clown with an automatic weapon who had no business owning one. I don’t know but I’m pretty sure when the 2nd amendment was written, they didn’t envision people being able to own an automatic weapon with a 30 round clip. Back then they had muskets and single shot pistols. A far cry from the weapons available today. Again I own guns. I just don’t believe assault rifles should be available to the general public. And I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
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30 round Magazine.
Clips are what you use to load a magazine.
And the best battle rifle ever made holds 10
 
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Delmar said:
I didn’t say that. Some folks will certainly politicize it. I don’t care about politics. I go on what I see. Thirteen innocent people in my town got shot today by a clown with an automatic weapon who had no business owning one. I don’t know but I’m pretty sure when the 2nd amendment was written, they didn’t envision people being able to own an automatic weapon with a 30 round clip. Back then they had muskets and single shot pistols. A far cry from the weapons available today. Again I own guns. I just don’t believe assault rifles should be available to the general public. And I don’t think that’s unreasonable.
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You used “automatic weapon” multiple times which shows you’re simply making emotionally ignorant statements. That’s ok. Muskets and single shot pistols are irrelevant to what tue 2A stands for.
 
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StarRaider said:
so are you 100% sure about the "automatic weapon" part? and do you understand what an automatic weapon is? just checking, xiden's ATF nominee clown did not have a clue.
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We’ll find out what it was soon enough. Automatic or semi-automatic doesn’t matter to me. Witnesses reported the shooter having a “large rifle” and the shooting was rapid fire. What does that tell you?
 
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Delmar said:
We’ll find out what it was soon enough. Automatic or semi-automatic doesn’t matter to me. Witnesses reported the shooter having a “large rifle” and the shooting was rapid fire. What does that tell you?
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that you are clueless and spewing leftist/socialist b-s. btw a commie killed JFK with a bolt action rifle... should we ban those too?
 
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Delmar said:
We’ll find out what it was soon enough. Automatic or semi-automatic doesn’t matter to me. Witnesses reported the shooter having a “large rifle” and the shooting was rapid fire. What does that tell you?
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I had a 10-22 Ruger with a 9, 16, and 30 round mag. It was semi auto hunting rifle. I could shoot it at a pretty rapid fire. Ban?
 
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Delmar said:
We’ll find out what it was soon enough. Automatic or semi-automatic doesn’t matter to me. Witnesses reported the shooter having a “large rifle” and the shooting was rapid fire. What does that tell you?
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If my goal is mass casualty then I’m using my police magnum 870 12 gauge. It holds 8+1. Shooting OO buck I can put 99 (ll per shot) 9mm sized shot down range in less than 15 seconds.
The 12 gauge is the most effective choice for casualties.

You should look into most mass shootings. They’re done with shotguns and revolvers.
 
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