Gun control debate (merged)

[Carl Pickens]

You and I have entirely different definitions of what freedom is, buddy. I consider freedom the ability for myself and my family to walk around in public without the fear that a private citizen, who thinks he is Rambo, will be "defending himself" and start shooting.

You're a poor little Chihuahua in a big dog's world

 

[davethevol]

Funny that you fail to mention any fear of a criminal.

I keep hearing Rush say that the left fears conservatives/libertarians more than they fear ISIS and consider them their biggest threat. I believe that to be a correct statement and think what you said ties right into it. Bnhunt isn't in here saying "let's deter crime/criminals," but, "law abiding citizens with guns scare me." Just another sick individual that will make society more dangerous if he gets his twisted agenda.

 

[theFallGuy]

I keep hearing Rush say that the left fears conservatives/libertarians more than they fear ISIS and consider them their biggest threat. I believe that to be a correct statement and think what you said ties right into it. Bnhunt isn't in here saying "let's deter crime/criminals," but, "law abiding citizens with guns scare me." Just another sick individual that will make society more dangerous if he gets his twisted agenda.

I believe that is correct. That's why the Establishment Machine is spreading its disinformation campaign of deceit, aka "domestic terrorism or Americans with guns are more of a threat than muslim terrorists"... The media has received their marching orders from the regime so every shooting will be formatted to fit this narrative

 

[Gramps]

I believe that is correct. That's why the Establishment Machine is spreading its disinformation campaign of deceit, aka "domestic terrorism or Americans with guns are more of a threat than muslim terrorists"... The media has received their marching orders from the regime so every shooting will be formatted to fit this narrative

According to the CDC, in 2013 there were 33,636 firearms related deaths. That is 92 firearm related deaths per day in the USA.
Only a selective few are covered by the national media.

 

[theFallGuy]

I wouldn't call it flourishing, but improvement has largely been fueled by spending right? Where would it be without the trillions spent by the fed? Or by the massive deficits we've run the past 7 years. All they did was make one problem significantly worse to temporarily address a different problem.

What we've seen is similar to someone's neighbor boasting about their new BMW, the remodeled house, and the steak their eating three nights a week. Before he drove a 93 Camry, his house looked like it was the Brady Bunch's, and he ate some variety of potatoes every night. But he didn't get a better paying job, find a new source of income, or adjust his budget to pay for all this. He put it on the credit cards and had a friend loan him money. It may look like he's "flourishing", but he's paid for none of it and has no means to do so. It's an extremely temporary change.

The US can't keep doing that. The U.S. finances are the greatest threat to its stability, and I don't think it's something that can be fixed anymore. Regardless of who is elected. The tipping point just may get here sooner depending on who wins.

#BOOM well put

 

[tumscalcium]

According to the CDC, in 2013 there were 33,636 firearms related deaths. That is 92 firearm related deaths per day in the USA.
Only a selective few are covered by the national media.

How many are suicides?

Even counting them - that's it? Not even two per state per day?

 

[theFallGuy]

According to the CDC, in 2013 there were 33,636 firearms related deaths. That is 92 firearm related deaths per day in the USA.
Only a selective few are covered by the national media.

which is nothing when you compare it to how many die of heart disease each year

 

[hndog609]

According to the CDC, in 2013 there were 33,636 firearms related deaths. That is 92 firearm related deaths per day in the USA.
Only a selective few are covered by the national media.

And according to the FBI UCR (expanded homicide data table 8) only 8,454 were homicides. Now compare that to basically any study, even those with the low numbers, citing defensive gun uses.

I really don't want to make light of suicide but that's what makes up the majority of firearm related deaths in this country and, IMO, is a totally different beast than firearm "crime" injuries/deaths.

 

[edyeary]

bnhunt puts an exclamation point on just how stupid and certifiably insane a liberal can be. He sounds like he'd rather the government would bend him over a table once a day or more as long as he could say he was safe from us "rambos" [another idiotic liberal stereotype of gun owners] and continues to mischaracterize gun ownership and the shootings that do happen. All criminals are victims and its us evil conservatives that persecute them. Buy back their guns and they all of a sudden become choir boys. I hope they institute a buy back. I'll sell my junk and purchase a new one and more ammo. No need to argue with bnhunt. You can't. You might as well accept that. There will be no rational thought from him until he is fully controlled by either government or by a mental health facility.

 

[edyeary]

Don't forget your Winchester. You can substitute a Henry or Uberti if you so please.

I have a Rooster shooter single action .45 on special order. The gun carried by Wayne in many of his latter movies. Orange grips.

 

[Gramps]

which is nothing when you compare it to how many die of heart disease each year

You posted: " The media has received their marching orders from the regime so every shooting will be formatted to fit this narrative"


I was simply replying that is incorrect. The media covers only a small percent of gun related deaths.

 

[hog88]

According to the CDC, in 2013 there were 33,636 firearms related deaths. That is 92 firearm related deaths per day in the USA.
Only a selective few are covered by the national media.

People should be more careful.

Look at the bright side, eliminating stupid genes.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Yet stupidity isn't.

It is on liberals.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I keep hearing Rush say that the left fears conservatives/libertarians more than they fear ISIS and consider them their biggest threat. I believe that to be a correct statement and think what you said ties right into it. Bnhunt isn't in here saying "let's deter crime/criminals," but, "law abiding citizens with guns scare me." Just another sick individual that will make society more dangerous if he gets his twisted agenda.

His scared of guns garbage paints a picture....

 

[IPleadInsanity]

You posted: " The media has received their marching orders from the regime so every shooting will be formatted to fit this narrative"


I was simply replying that is incorrect. The media covers only a small percent of gun related deaths.

Yes you can see their agenda easily. Obama is simply doing the bidding of the Hollywood/liberal media that put him in office. he is not working from the will of the people.

 

[FLVOL69]

bnhunt puts an exclamation point on just how stupid and certifiably insane a liberal can be. He sounds like he'd rather the government would bend him over a table once a day or more as long as he could say he was safe from us "rambos" [another idiotic liberal stereotype of gun owners] and continues to mischaracterize gun ownership and the shootings that do happen. All cruiminals are victims and its us evil conservatives that persecute them. Buy back their guns and they all of a sudden become choir boys. I hope they institute a buy back. I'll sell my junk and purchase a new one and more ammo. No need to argue with bnhunt. You can't. You might as well accept that. There will be no rational thought from him until he is fully controlled by either government or by a mental health facility.

You should try talking to his brother Mike.

 

[FLVOL69]

I keep hearing Rush say that the left fears conservatives/libertarians more than they fear ISIS and consider them their biggest threat. I believe that to be a correct statement and think what you said ties right into it. Bnhunt isn't in here saying "let's deter crime/criminals," but, "law abiding citizens with guns scare me." Just another sick individual that will make society more dangerous if he gets his twisted agenda.

Rush is right..

 

[Gramps]

CNN is reporting Obama is going to use an EO to expand the background checks to purchase a gun.

 

[hog88]

CNN is reporting Obama is going to use an EO to expand the background checks to purchase a gun.

Ahh how sweet. Useless and unenforceable EO that only the brainless applaud.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Ahh how sweet. Useless and unenforceable EO that only the brainless applaud.

Gotta love how one man can inflict his desires on 315 million people.

 

[Obsessed]

CNN is reporting Obama is going to use an EO to expand the background checks to purchase a gun.

I reported that a couple weeks ago.

We will have another mass shooting the they will go for confiscation

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

I reported that a couple weeks ago.

We will have another mass shooting the they will go for confiscation

Well, that's what registration is for. Registration leads to confiscation. There is no other reason to have a list.

 

[Obsessed]

Well, that's what registration is for. Registration leads to confiscation. There is no other reason to have a list.

Yep

 

[FLVOL69]

CNN is reporting Obama is going to use an EO to expand the background checks to purchase a gun.

What hasn't that pos not used an xo for? the emperor strikes again!

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Any idea about what will be included in the "expanded" background checks?