Guarantano "Erratic" at Manning Camp

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Boca Vol said:
I took Behr's comment a different way...but since you're both here, is this better:

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Whatever the scotch tells you. :)
 
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TBH, I'm giving anyone who played under Butch a pass and a clean slate. His ability to develop and evaluate talent was nothing short of abysmal.

JG was a great-looking prospect, and I look forward to seeing what he can do with a quality QB coach and a HFC that doesn't coach with his ego and a friggin' chart.
 
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This post is really dumb. If you have ever been to Manning Camp, and I have three times, you would know that the college kids there are teaching not performing themselves. The only exception to this is a skills competition at the very end of camp where all the college guys compete. And, that is just three throws trying to hit a golf cart.
 
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You guys worry too much. Guarantano is going to be fine and he is our QB this fall. Big time arm, big time talent and explosiveness. Chryst or nobody else is going to overtake him. Gitmo has that 'it' factor that should erase your fears. QB isn't going to be an issue of concern.

Now about that defense this fall. Question marks and concerns are crying out from all corners.
 
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LibertyVolance said:
You guys worry too much. Guarantano is going to be fine and he is our QB this fall. Big time arm, big time talent and explosiveness. Chryst or nobody else is going to overtake him. Gitmo has that 'it' factor that should erase your fears. QB isn't going to be an issue of concern.

Now about that defense this fall. Question marks and concerns are crying out from all corners.
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JP and Helton call you this past weekend and give you the heads up on the QB status?:unsure:
 
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LibertyVolance said:
You guys worry too much. Guarantano is going to be fine and he is our QB this fall. Big time arm, big time talent and explosiveness. Chryst or nobody else is going to overtake him. Gitmo has that 'it' factor that should erase your fears. QB isn't going to be an issue of concern.

Now about that defense this fall. Question marks and concerns are crying out from all corners.
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:lolabove: The "it" factor that should erase our fears? What is that "it" factor? Is it some magical intangible that you quite can explain but know for a fact it means no one should worry? Is it that inability to throw a touchdown to escape a 4-8 season? Is it dropping back and pretending to be a tackling dummy? Is it not being a leader on the field? Is it not being able to orchestrate a scoring drive? Just curious what this "it" factor is that apparently no one else has ever seen.
 
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KBVol said:
So, you trust Detillier when he says Guarantano was “erratic”....so much so that you started this thread. But, when he gives the primary reason why he believes Guarantano was “erratic”, you’re “not buying it”. Alrighty then.
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Calm down Stacy, It's the off season. Stories are scarce so I was just posting what I found. I don't care who we have as QB as long as they lead us to victories....
 
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orange parmejohn said:
Chryst wasn't brought in for motivation. He was brought in to compete for the starting job.
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He was also brought in for depth.

And who knows, maybe the staff got wrong information and was given that JG was going to transfer out, so they had already talked to Chryst to set the pieces in motion.

When JG decided not to transfer, the coaches had to spin it as a QB competition.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
TBH, I'm giving anyone who played under Butch a pass and a clean slate. His ability to develop and evaluate talent was nothing short of abysmal.

JG was a great-looking prospect, and I look forward to seeing what he can do with a quality QB coach and a HFC that doesn't coach with his ego and a friggin' chart.
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I agree with the free pass.. I want to see JG play this year before I make any sort of judgment on his playing. I have a lot of questions about many players that Butch recruited. Many seem to have a high ceiling before getting to campus and that ceiling seemed to drop, looks to me it was all based on improper coaching and teaching fundamentals / technique or how it was taught.. Who the hell knows.

JG on game day.. Who knows what the kid was taught to do.. Was the plays set up for failure for him? Did he hang on to ball to long because of something the coaches wanted? Or was it because the plays broke down faster than he had a chance to process.. What exactly was the coaches teaching him, the oline.. And the WRs to do?

More that once we have witness a QB look awful at UT onder the previous staff and go on to look pretty good at another college..

It's a wait and see for me.. I wish the kid the absolute best and hope he balls..
 
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VolsnRavens said:
Not the news I was hoping to here. The QB competition could be very interesting during fall camp.

Analyst: Vols' Guarantano 'erratic' but talented, hard worker

Jarrett Guarantano’s performance over the weekend at the annual Manning Passing Academy was something Tennessee fans should be familiar with, according to veteran Louisiana sportswriter, broadcaster and NFL Draft analyst Mike Detillier, who watched Guarantano at the event.

Detillier spoke with former former Tennessee wide receiver and current Knoxville radio host Jayson Swain on Wednesday morning, and his scouting report on Guarantano should sound familiar: big arm, talented arm, inconsistent but working extremely hard to change that.

“I’ll be honest with you, he was a little erratic throwing the ball, but that didn’t surprise me, because he’s working with receivers that he’s never worked with,” Detillier told Swain on The Swain Event. “You come here, you don’t bring the Tennessee Volunteer wide receivers with you. He’s working with receivers from Tulane, LSU, Nicholls State, Southeastern [Louisiana].


I'm not really buying the WR explanation. If that were true, wouldn't all of the QB's at the camp be "erratic"? I hope Helton helps him a great deal, but I'm starting to think Christ was brought in for more than just "motivation".
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We had an erratic qb for three years before Guarantano became a starter. He is the main reason we had any success under butch jones. Of course he was a major threat with his legs and if he had been more accurate passer we would have won several more games. We can only hope Guarantano developers better accuracy or running skills. If not it’ll be tough to win.
 
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vettefool said:
We had an erratic qb for three years before Guarantano became a starter. He is the main reason we had any success under butch jones. Of course he was a major threat with his legs and if he had been more accurate passer we would have won several more games. We can only hope Guarantano developers better accuracy or running skills. If not it’ll be tough to win.
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Regardless of "dual-threat" being added to his name, Guarantano's high School stats, were not indicative of a true dual-threat quarterback, and so far neither has his performance at UT.

So I wouldn't count on his legs winning any games the way Dobbs' did.
 
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Only two knocks I have on JG is maturity and processing slowly. With that said, some or a lot of that can be attributed to former staff and scheme...even attrition in the protection...

I feel confident that he has matured both mentally and physically. If the game slows down for him I see no reason he can’t be a very good QB for us, especially in this system of Helton’s..
 
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hammer81tn said:
Last year, Guarantano was running for his life nearly every play. It shouldn't be any wonder why he could be perceived as erratic. Unless all he was going to do was throw screens or swing passes instead of throwing down the field or run plays, he was scrambling or eating grass. That O line didn't do much protecting and it cost UT almost 3 qb's, it seemed that McBride played hurt the last game or two because there was nobody left.
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Do they play tackle football at the Elite 11? If he’s erratic against air then that’s not good.
 
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butchna said:
So if it does change then you’re full of shizz...or just more than usual? :)
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It just means something major happened and something clicked. I haven't seen anything great about JG or Chryst. A serviceable QB will do if we have a run game
 
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Catbone said:
It just means something major happened and something clicked. I haven't seen anything great about JG or Chryst. A serviceable QB will do if we have a run game
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So the “not great” thing isn’t a final answer? :question:
 
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Dougie_D said:
He was also brought in for depth.

And who knows, maybe the staff got wrong information and was given that JG was going to transfer out, so they had already talked to Chryst to set the pieces in motion.

When JG decided not to transfer, the coaches had to spin it as a QB competition.
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Dougie, there are like six words in your entire post that aren't baseless speculation.

Heck, your final sentence is even speculation built on TOP of the speculation that came before it.

:)
 
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Being under the tutelage of Mike Canales and Butch Jones would make any QB erratic.

Its gonna take time for him to shake the stench of those two off him.
 
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k-town_king said:
Except for A&M, Ark, and UF. Not to mention Dormady and McBride whom he was better than. The only freshman qb that was better than him in the SEC last year was Fromm.
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Well, the Florida freshman Qb did beat someone..... who was it? Oh yeah. Ark Qb Allen was far better than JG. A&M Qb sure wasn’t worse.

Bamas Freshman Qb was better. He did pretty good in the few times he played, didn’t he? Patterson at OM wasn’t a freshman cause he played a couple games in 16 but he’s in the same ha class as JG. . Far better. Eason at Ga in same class as he’s far better although no longer at Ga. I don’t understand how Vol fans can watch ‘17 and not be concerned at Qb?
 
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