Gotta read this.

These people didn't realize what Gruden would demand BEFORE they approached him? If they are that dumb, we are a long way from rock bottom.

Did they just start looking for a coach after the season ended? UCLA wasn't open until a week after Jones had been let go. What the **** were they doing that week in between?

I'm not optimistic things are going to get better anytime soon.
 
These people didn't realize what Gruden would demand BEFORE they approached him? If they are that dumb, we are a long way from rock bottom.

Did they just start looking for a coach after the season ended? UCLA wasn't open until a week after Jones had been let go. What the **** were they doing that week in between?

I'm not optimistic things are going to get better anytime soon.

If the rumors of who Phil is going after are true (and I hope they’re not) then we have absolutely no reason to be optimistic.
 
This was a post from UT booster on Twitter. Interesting read. Fact or Fiction??



Here's what REALLY happened at UT, not what you saw & heard at the press conference:
Remember that you read this here first:
Ergen, Thornton, & Davis, among others, had enough of Haslam's pick for AD botching the coaching hire & embarrassing our/their alma mater. It was becoming a bad reflection on them as businessmen to be portrayed in such a bad light nationally, since they are known to be prominent donors to UT.
They gave Davenport an ultimatum & she called Currie in off the road. He went anyway on a plane owned by one of his KSU donors at his former school, which is why no one could find him or contact him yesterday.
Peyton had aligned himself with the Haslams, & one rumor is that he has been offered a piece of the Browns to run them when they inevitably clean house for the second time at the end of the season. Other rumors abound that the Haslams have promised the Mannings they will help them be able to acquire another NFL franchise or a piece of one.
Leach is really interested in this job, but probably won't get it now. That's a real shame, because he & Kiffin are the two best coaches we could have hired, & Spurrier said so today on Finebaum. They know how to recruit & build a staff & run offenses that deploy their weapons to the utmost on the field.
Just a few hours ago, it was Haslam & Manning aligned on one side, pitted against Ergen, Thornton, & Davis on the other. They contacted Fulmer, who met them at the airport. Haslam & Manning wanted Sigmon named interim AD. The others wanted Fulmer & said they were ending their donations if he wasn't given the job on some basis.
Ergen was giving $35M annually to UT when Fulmer was here as coach & has only given $10M annually since. He told UT he would make up for any shortfall in what the Haslams may withhold.
You can tell that Davenport is in way over her head in this job & was visibly shaken at the press conference. She didn't know how to answer any of the questions.
The reason Currie didn't use a search firm is that he was given a list of 3 coaches to interview by Haslam that Davenport signed off on. In order, they were 1. Gruden, 2. Kelly, & 3. Schiano. Gruden was already signed & ready to come, as some of these other boosters had already gotten his agreement, but Haslam nixed the hire because Gruden wanted total control of the program like Saban has at Bama & Meyer at OSU, & Haslam was determined not to let go of his control of everything.
By the time Currie got to Kelly, he had already been approached by both Florida & UCLA, & had decided to go to one of those places. Currie went to the Bahamas knowing he was going to offer Schiano when he got back home. It was only when the firestorm hit on Sunday that Currie had to go beyond the original Haslam list, which is when we got started getting turned down by so many others. Currie made a last ditch attempt to save his job by going for Leach, but he wasn't authorized by Haslam or Davenport to be contacted.
Now, the rest of this is speculation, but maybe more educated guess than conjecture:
Cutcliffe, now age 63, & Miles, age 64, will be the two top targets now for HC, with Tee Martin as OC brought in under either of them & groomed to be their successor. That's the plan. Might involve Chavis or Steele as DC. Should have a hire within 48 hours.
Not sure where they will go if this plan doesn't fall through. Only thing that bothers me about Fulmer in this search is that there will probably be no "outside the box" thinking & any new blood other than Tee. Also, he went with Currie to interview Doeren in NC & had signed off on his hire, which would have been a disastrous hire, so it was just fortuitous for us that he turned us down.

Good grief! Even is this is true - we just trade one big time booster that wants control with another one that wants control.

We need someone who will work for what is best for the University and NOT cater to these boosters.

I will be surprised if Davenport doesn't leave on her own. She probably never dreamed that the boosters, alumni, and fans at this university were so crazy!
 
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Idk if Gruden was signed or not , but to think Haslam has no control because he isn’t on some board is just naive. He controls everything when it comes to UT sports. And has for awhile now. The entire family does.

Used to.
 
Good Read - fictional or not. My thoughts though are:

Now that Davenport and the Board of Trustees are finally involved with this search, WHY can't we go back to Gruden and say "the team is yours - you have all power to do as you please" ??

Exactly. If this is true, just go back to Gruden and say "Control is all your's" lol So taking this with a grain of salt
 
I thoroughly believe that Les Miles will be the next head coach and Tee is being talked to about joining staff as OC... And Dan brooks could be in play for DL coach and no idea about DC... There will be a mixture of old and new on this staff....
 
Ok I’ll be the one to ask. What was it that threw Obama off? Cause he was off that night.

Obama personally resented Romney unlike McCain who he respected. He didn't think Romney was worthy of standing on a stage with him. He also thought the American people would see through his flip flopping. And so Obama didn't take the debate prep seriously. His staffers were desperately trying to prepare but he wasn't focused. He thought people wouldn't believe Romney.

Obviously he was wrong. After that debate Romney surged in the polls and Obama decided he had to now prepare for the debates and take this game seriously.

The thing that surprised me when I heard this was the personal resentment toward Romney. I didn't know Obama had such strong negative feelings toward Romney and that he was also reckless enough to blow off the debate prep because he thought the American people wouldn't believe Romney because he held different positions in the past. That was very naive of Obama.
 
obama personally resented romney unlike mccain who he respected. He didn't think romney was worthy of standing on a stage with him. He also thought the american people would see through his flip flopping. And so obama didn't take the debate prep seriously. His staffers were desperately trying to prepare but he wasn't focused. He thought people wouldn't believe romney.

Obviously he was wrong. After that debate romney surged in the polls and obama decided he had to now prepare for the debates and take this game seriously.

The thing that surprised me when i heard this was the personal resentment toward romney. I didn't know obama had such strong negative feelings toward romney and that he was also reckless enough to blow off the debate prep because he thought the american people wouldn't believe romney because he held different positions in the past. That was very naive of obama.



great...post of the year!
 
What is this? Plot lines for "As The World Turns" soap opera?

The only subject matter missing is an illicit sex scandle, cocaine, and a dead hooker!

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This is an issue for me..

...but Haslam nixed the hire because Gruden wanted total control of the program like Saban has at Bama & Meyer at OSU, & Haslam was determined not to let go of his control of everything.

How in the name of everything sane can a booster nix a hire? He is not on the board nor was he part of the HC search committee... so that blows my mind. The only way that has legs is that Haslam has the enough of the weaker minded board members under his direct control. Which needs to be nipped in the bud, if true.

No offense but it's almost like some of you haven't been paying attention to this.

Of course Haslem has been dictating this. He's been doing it for years. He had Currie #1 on speed dial. Remember when the AD search was almost complete and towards the end a mystery candidate named John Currie entered the picture and was immediately named the AD (by Haslam who led the AD search). With his puppet in place it was his sure fire way to continue to remain the puppet master behind the curtain.

As for the tweet from the booster. One of two things is true. Either Gruden was indeed in play based on a visit from some high level boosters (and Currie refused to make the follow up because he knew that he and Haslam were going to hire Schiano the whole time) or it was a ploy to use the fan base's desire to hire Gruden by simply leaking out Grumors by the non-Haslam faction of boosters that wanted to use it to retake control of power back from the Haslam clan (in an effort to make Currie and Haslam look bad by their refusal to engage with Gruden - which we now know is true regardless of whether they talked to Gruden or not).

If it's the latter I doubt anyone could have anticipated what was about to transpire on Sunday and just how bad it would turn out. Either way whether we get Gruden or not removing Currie from the AD and replacing with Fulmer and ostensibly neutering Haslam is good for the university no matter which way you look at it.
 
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Disappointing Manning has aligned himself with Haslam. A huge slap in the face to Fulmer. Yeah, it’s just business, but Manning needs to “Omaha” on this one and call a different play for himself.
 
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Some posters stay on here constantly just to make the same comment 50 times per day.

Their unchanging assertion....

That no one, nowhere, ever knows anything.

It's funny, cause these usual suspects are by far the most ignorant people you'd ever meet.

Surprisingly they know less about about football than they do the current events surrounding this program.

Ther act of logging on and scanning for things to ignore is just as pointless as I imagine their lives to be.

It's a good object lesson for others though. You can learn and teach others what a close minded idiot looks like.
 

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