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#26
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NEVolFan said:
This is an issue for me..

...but Haslam nixed the hire because Gruden wanted total control of the program like Saban has at Bama & Meyer at OSU, & Haslam was determined not to let go of his control of everything.

How in the name of everything sane can a booster nix a hire? He is not on the board nor was he part of the HC search committee... so that blows my mind. The only way that has legs is that Haslam has the enough of the weaker minded board members under his direct control. Which needs to be nipped in the bud, if true.
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Totally agree. I guess I'm naive, but what decisions *should* a booster have control of in regards to the team? I mean, beyond making the head coach put your daughter up in his house.
 
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We need to be rid of all the control freaks and let a guy like Gruden have full control of the football program. Why would anyone not want that?
 
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warrior said:
It's absolutely true. His brother is the Governor and head of the board. Currie was hand picked by him. Literally walked into the room, said this guy here is AD. I don't even think he was interviewed by the hiring committee. And it was done. At least that's the story of many in the situation.

Furthermore, Haslam had already tried to hire Schiano for the Browns. Apparently he owes him something. I am thinking hush money.
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Haslam -- The Governor...will probably make a Senate Run...Corker Seat....This is probably not the kind of publicity you want hanging over your head...

Conflict of Interest = Corruption.... Stated Brother had nothing to do with Shiano hire....We know that to be a lie.
 
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NEVolFan said:
This is an issue for me..

...but Haslam nixed the hire because Gruden wanted total control of the program like Saban has at Bama & Meyer at OSU, & Haslam was determined not to let go of his control of everything.

How in the name of everything sane can a booster nix a hire? He is not on the board nor was he part of the HC search committee... so that blows my mind. The only way that has legs is that Haslam has the enough of the weaker minded board members under his direct control. Which needs to be nipped in the bud, if true.
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Because MONEY TALKS and BS walks.
 
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CDCman said:
This was a post from UT booster on Twitter. Interesting read. Fact or Fiction??



Here's what REALLY happened at UT, not what you saw & heard at the press conference:
Remember that you read this here first:
Ergen, Thornton, & Davis, among others, had enough of Haslam's pick for AD botching the coaching hire & embarrassing our/their alma mater. It was becoming a bad reflection on them as businessmen to be portrayed in such a bad light nationally, since they are known to be prominent donors to UT.
They gave Davenport an ultimatum & she called Currie in off the road. He went anyway on a plane owned by one of his KSU donors at his former school, which is why no one could find him or contact him yesterday.
Peyton had aligned himself with the Haslams, & one rumor is that he has been offered a piece of the Browns to run them when they inevitably clean house for the second time at the end of the season. Other rumors abound that the Haslams have promised the Mannings they will help them be able to acquire another NFL franchise or a piece of one.
Leach is really interested in this job, but probably won't get it now. That's a real shame, because he & Kiffin are the two best coaches we could have hired, & Spurrier said so today on Finebaum. They know how to recruit & build a staff & run offenses that deploy their weapons to the utmost on the field.
Just a few hours ago, it was Haslam & Manning aligned on one side, pitted against Ergen, Thornton, & Davis on the other. They contacted Fulmer, who met them at the airport. Haslam & Manning wanted Sigmon named interim AD. The others wanted Fulmer & said they were ending their donations if he wasn't given the job on some basis.
Ergen was giving $35M annually to UT when Fulmer was here as coach & has only given $10M annually since. He told UT he would make up for any shortfall in what the Haslams may withhold.
You can tell that Davenport is in way over her head in this job & was visibly shaken at the press conference. She didn't know how to answer any of the questions.
The reason Currie didn't use a search firm is that he was given a list of 3 coaches to interview by Haslam that Davenport signed off on. In order, they were 1. Gruden, 2. Kelly, & 3. Schiano. Gruden was already signed & ready to come, as some of these other boosters had already gotten his agreement, but Haslam nixed the hire because Gruden wanted total control of the program like Saban has at Bama & Meyer at OSU, & Haslam was determined not to let go of his control of everything.
By the time Currie got to Kelly, he had already been approached by both Florida & UCLA, & had decided to go to one of those places. Currie went to the Bahamas knowing he was going to offer Schiano when he got back home. It was only when the firestorm hit on Sunday that Currie had to go beyond the original Haslam list, which is when we got started getting turned down by so many others. Currie made a last ditch attempt to save his job by going for Leach, but he wasn't authorized by Haslam or Davenport to be contacted.
Now, the rest of this is speculation, but maybe more educated guess than conjecture:
Cutcliffe, now age 63, & Miles, age 64, will be the two top targets now for HC, with Tee Martin as OC brought in under either of them & groomed to be their successor. That's the plan. Might involve Chavis or Steele as DC. Should have a hire within 48 hours.
Not sure where they will go if this plan doesn't fall through. Only thing that bothers me about Fulmer in this search is that there will probably be no "outside the box" thinking & any new blood other than Tee. Also, he went with Currie to interview Doeren in NC & had signed off on his hire, which would have been a disastrous hire, so it was just fortuitous for us that he turned us down.
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More fake news..
 
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The original poster (not on here) defends his story pretty well. Says Bev had to tell Haslam "no", which has never happened at UT when he wanted to pick the next AD. Probably why she was shaking at the press conference with Phil!
 
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CDCman said:
This was a post from UT booster on Twitter. Interesting read. Fact or Fiction??



Here's what REALLY happened at UT, not what you saw & heard at the press conference:
Remember that you read this here first:
Ergen, Thornton, & Davis, among others, had enough of Haslam's pick for AD botching the coaching hire & embarrassing our/their alma mater. It was becoming a bad reflection on them as businessmen to be portrayed in such a bad light nationally, since they are known to be prominent donors to UT.
They gave Davenport an ultimatum & she called Currie in off the road. He went anyway on a plane owned by one of his KSU donors at his former school, which is why no one could find him or contact him yesterday.
Peyton had aligned himself with the Haslams, & one rumor is that he has been offered a piece of the Browns to run them when they inevitably clean house for the second time at the end of the season. Other rumors abound that the Haslams have promised the Mannings they will help them be able to acquire another NFL franchise or a piece of one.
Leach is really interested in this job, but probably won't get it now. That's a real shame, because he & Kiffin are the two best coaches we could have hired, & Spurrier said so today on Finebaum. They know how to recruit & build a staff & run offenses that deploy their weapons to the utmost on the field.
Just a few hours ago, it was Haslam & Manning aligned on one side, pitted against Ergen, Thornton, & Davis on the other. They contacted Fulmer, who met them at the airport. Haslam & Manning wanted Sigmon named interim AD. The others wanted Fulmer & said they were ending their donations if he wasn't given the job on some basis.
Ergen was giving $35M annually to UT when Fulmer was here as coach & has only given $10M annually since. He told UT he would make up for any shortfall in what the Haslams may withhold.
You can tell that Davenport is in way over her head in this job & was visibly shaken at the press conference. She didn't know how to answer any of the questions.
The reason Currie didn't use a search firm is that he was given a list of 3 coaches to interview by Haslam that Davenport signed off on. In order, they were 1. Gruden, 2. Kelly, & 3. Schiano. Gruden was already signed & ready to come, as some of these other boosters had already gotten his agreement, but Haslam nixed the hire because Gruden wanted total control of the program like Saban has at Bama & Meyer at OSU, & Haslam was determined not to let go of his control of everything.
By the time Currie got to Kelly, he had already been approached by both Florida & UCLA, & had decided to go to one of those places. Currie went to the Bahamas knowing he was going to offer Schiano when he got back home. It was only when the firestorm hit on Sunday that Currie had to go beyond the original Haslam list, which is when we got started getting turned down by so many others. Currie made a last ditch attempt to save his job by going for Leach, but he wasn't authorized by Haslam or Davenport to be contacted.
Now, the rest of this is speculation, but maybe more educated guess than conjecture:
Cutcliffe, now age 63, & Miles, age 64, will be the two top targets now for HC, with Tee Martin as OC brought in under either of them & groomed to be their successor. That's the plan. Might involve Chavis or Steele as DC. Should have a hire within 48 hours.
Not sure where they will go if this plan doesn't fall through. Only thing that bothers me about Fulmer in this search is that there will probably be no "outside the box" thinking & any new blood other than Tee. Also, he went with Currie to interview Doeren in NC & had signed off on his hire, which would have been a disastrous hire, so it was just fortuitous for us that he turned us down.
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Same thing posted in the Gruden thread but was a text message from someone in the know.
 
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#37
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Volfan2012 said:
We need to be rid of all the control freaks and let a guy like Gruden have full control of the football program. Why would anyone not want that?
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Who in their right mind would think that Fulmer would relinquish control now that he's got the AD job after waiting 10 years? That would be ZERO chance.
 
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sona said:
The original poster (not on here) defends his story pretty well. Says Bev had to tell Haslam "no", which has never happened at UT when he wanted to pick the next AD. Probably why she was shaking at the press conference with Phil!
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Haslam is not a god. Needs to stop thinking that it’s the university of Haslam.
 
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Some of us don't know the difference between a Fairy Tale and a War Story.

One begins with "Once upon a Time" and the other with "This is no BS"

This story could should have begun with "Once upon a Time"
 
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Just read it as originally posted, not on tweeter, not on facebook. I don't know the poster, just saying he defends it and adds to it over multiple pages on that forum.

Want to find it? Search (with the quotes - this gets you the exact wording) for this:

" Here's What REALLY Happened at UT, NOT What You Saw & Heard at the Press Conference"

Fire that up in google and read away. Wish I knew who the OP was, but no clue.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
For real. Why would Peyton sell his soul to be the GM/partial owner or any part of the worst franchise in the NFL? He can be a GM at anywhere he wanted.
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Read more on this... Haslam has suggested to the Mannings that he can get them a part of another NFL franchise as well as the deal with the Browns. So, it looks like candy land for Peyton right now.
 
#43
#43
I bet...the events of the last few weeks are even more stupid than what is posted above...
 
#44
#44
NEVolFan said:
This is an issue for me..

...but Haslam nixed the hire because Gruden wanted total control of the program like Saban has at Bama & Meyer at OSU, & Haslam was determined not to let go of his control of everything.

How in the name of everything sane can a booster nix a hire? He is not on the board nor was he part of the HC search committee... so that blows my mind. The only way that has legs is that Haslam has the enough of the weaker minded board members under his direct control. Which needs to be nipped in the bud, if true.
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My question as well. Especially if Ergen said he would make up anything lost by the Haslams.
 
#45
#45
Volfan2012 said:
We need to be rid of all the control freaks and let a guy like Gruden have full control of the football program. Why would anyone not want that?
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Agree... but some folks will not check their egos at the door. Saban has it figured out, and that model works.
 
#46
#46
This could very well be fake. But in all honesty, does any of this really sound fake? Especially given whats happened over the past week? I could see all of it being true.

Then again, every word could be false. Sad part is, we will never know the truth.
 
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#47
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gtin723 said:
Some of us don't know the difference between a Fairy Tale and a War Story.

One begins with "Once upon a Time" and the other with "This is no BS"

This story could should have begun with "Once upon a Time"
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WRONG. This was posted on FB by a guy I've been friends with since high school. He has been heavily involved with all things Tennessee, not just athletics, since we attended UT in the mid to late 70's. If anyone would know all this, it would be him.
 
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