Good hire bad timing .

[Volstylexx]

How would y’all gage the current overall approval rating of Caldwell compared with Warlick and Harper near the end of their tenures?

TSA has a higher current approval rating than Kim.

 

[lvocd]

TSA has a higher current approval rating than Kim.

It's funny you said that because earlier the thought crossed my mind that "the DMV has a bigger fan club than Kim right now."

 

[MicCheck12]

It’s not a “good” hire if the hire was the wrong fit. That’s the very definition of a bad hire

He said good coach not good hire. Reading is fundamental.

 

[1reVOLver]

How would y’all gage the current overall approval rating of Caldwell compared with Warlick and Harper near the end of their tenures?

It’s near impossible to gauge the overall rating, as a single fanboard or a collection of rabid social media sites represent …well, they represent themselves, and are in no way a useful statistical sample, randomly selected. I can only answer for myself.

Holly- Her last two seasons were painful to watch. The predictable press conference answer, “I don’t know…” summed it up. Sadness. Sadness for Holly, for the program, the legacy. Disapproval? Yes, but mostly sadness.

Kellie- It quickly became clear that she was, and I might add, continues to be, a
very good coach. Not great. Not excellent. Not outstanding. Very good.
A very good coach with enough ability to get the team to the top 5 or 6% of D1, the Sweet Sixteen. Not higher. Rating? More resignation than sadness. The invocations of Pat's era just highlighted the gulf between history and present.

Kim- Frustration. Watching the team, then listening to her remarks, formed in a theoretical world untethered to reality…frustration starts changing to annoyance, to anger, to despair. All the stages of grief except acceptance. Because to accept that _______ would be to embrace mediocrity.

 

[Volfan2012]

About the same as Warlick and much lower than Harper. Harper was still in fairly good shape was somewhat of a surprise that she got fired. Warlick got two more years than most wanted her to have. Kim is about 50/50 one more year or let her go now.

 

[glv98]

How would y’all gage the current overall approval rating of Caldwell compared with Warlick and Harper near the end of their tenures?

Coming from only my own small circle of Lady Vol devotees, something even worse then disapproval has happened with Caldwell. People aren't shocked at the decline by now and really don't care that much anymore. You can only have your heart broken so many times before it gets callous.

In my circle, with Holly of course there was great affection, but that turned to hoping for mercy killing by the end. It just seemed to go on endlessly. Felt like she twisted in the wind forever and people just wanted it over with for her and for us.

With Kellie I believe there was much more sympathy. People felt awful for her because if it weren't for bad luck she'd have none at all. And truthfully we always knew she would have to go above any of her previous coaching ceilings to win championships and for lots of reasons that didn't happen. But she was impossible to dislike personally, both bc of her history here and bc of her obvious love of her players. She got huge credit for restoring the culture. However most were ready to move on, especially if there was a quality replacement available Unfortunately there wasn't..

Almost everyone I know is mixed on replacing Kim now, Painfully aware she's unqualified but conscious of the disaster of hiring without a suitable replacement and not wanting to repeat the mistake. So theres almost nonchalance. Not exactly shocking news that the decline has hit rock bottom especially with a CEO with zero qualification. Most saw this coming. I don't hear any personal animosity toward Caldwell, more sympathy for someone in a highly public job who is so clearly over their head.

Saddest thing is there will be no mattress burning on campus for the Lady Vols. The decline has gone on for so long that while everyone of course wants vaguely see things restored to the golden days. no one really expects or even thinks about it that much anymore Lack of caring and lack of lofty expectations is the worst possible outcome. But here we are.

 

[papatomany]

Who detected a difference in play from Plan A to Plan B? Had she abandoned Plan A at UCLA in November? She should maybe consider telemarketing. She is persistent with the lines.

I did. I've been saying it all year.

 

[MAD]

It’s near impossible to gauge the overall rating, as a single fanboard or a collection of rabid social media sites represent …well, they represent themselves, and are in no way a useful statistical sample, randomly selected. I can only answer for myself.

Holly- Her last two seasons were painful to watch. The predictable press conference answer, “I don’t know…” summed it up. Sadness. Sadness for Holly, for the program, the legacy. Disapproval? Yes, but mostly sadness.

Kellie- It quickly became clear that she was, and I might add, continues to be, a
very good coach. Not great. Not excellent. Not outstanding. Very good.
A very good coach with enough ability to get the team to the top 5 or 6% of D1, the Sweet Sixteen. Not higher. Rating? More resignation than sadness. The invocations of Pat's era just highlighted the gulf between history and present.

Kim- Frustration. Watching the team, then listening to her remarks, formed in a theoretical world untethered to reality…frustration starts changing to annoyance, to anger, to despair. All the stages of grief except acceptance. Because to accept that _______ would be to embrace mediocrity.

Coming from only my own small circle of Lady Vol devotees, something even worse then disapproval has happened with Caldwell. People aren't shocked at the decline by now and really don't care that much anymore. You can only have your heart broken so many times before it gets callous.

In my circle, with Holly of course there was great affection, but that turned to hoping for mercy killing by the end. It just seemed to go on endlessly. Felt like she twisted in the wind forever and people just wanted it over with for her and for us.

With Kellie I believe there was much more sympathy. People felt awful for her because if it weren't for bad luck she'd have none at all. And truthfully we always knew she would have to go above any of her previous coaching ceilings to win championships and for lots of reasons that didn't happen. But she was impossible to dislike personally, both bc of her history here and bc of her obvious love of her players. She got huge credit for restoring the culture. However most were ready to move on, especially if there was a quality replacement available Unfortunately there wasn't..

Almost everyone I know is mixed on replacing Kim now, Painfully aware she's unqualified but conscious of the disaster of hiring without a suitable replacement and not wanting to repeat the mistake. So theres almost nonchalance. Not exactly shocking news that the decline has hit rock bottom especially with a CEO with zero qualification. Most saw this coming. I don't hear any personal animosity toward Caldwell, more sympathy for someone in a highly public job who is so clearly over their head.

Saddest thing is there will be no mattress burning on campus for the Lady Vols. The decline has gone on for so long that while everyone of course wants vaguely see things restored to the golden days. no one really expects or even thinks about it that much anymore Lack of caring and lack of lofty expectations is the worst possible outcome. But here we are.

We have some really great posters, enjoyed reading both of these responses.