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AM64 said:
Actually, I don't. You see I don't dissect music like people do Shakespeare. Music is generally something that plays in the background while I'm doing something else, so when I hear "One pill makes you ... and the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all" those are words that go through my head - no literal or other translation - just words - sometimes worthy of thought, but not propaganda or advertising to drag me into another world. But then I have to admit not playing records backwards searching for hidden meaning either. However, I will always remember getting off the bus at the Ft. Benning induction center to the sound of "Somebody to Love".
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Wtf

You don't have to play the songs backwards to understand the drug references man. I feel like I'm getting trolled.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah...they didn't have the equivalent of our $ menu back in the day. People spent a lot more of their income on food.

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I don't think food was necessarily more expensive back then, if that's what you're trying to imply. My guess is that food expense (as a percent of income) has gone down largely because there are more expenses today that take a share of that income (e.g. internet, cable, cell phones, etc.) than there were in the past. As such, the "percentage" spent on food as a part of all expenses would be less.
 
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n_huffhines said:
So many small things like that that I won't ever miss. Rewinding and fastforwarding VHS and cassette tapes took forever, was imprecise (if you wanted to find a song), and ruined the tape.

My Dad and I used to watch Andy Kelly throwing darts on a 19" TV. I feel like I can't see anything on a TV that size today, even when it's HD.
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You should have lived with black and white TVs. They were horrible.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I was talking rock music, not folk...
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Huff, I'm aware you know more than we do about what went on in the 50s and 60s, but you see the same radio stations that played what you consider rock also played what you consider folk in those days. We didn't divvy things up in to neater selections because we just didn't have as many stations available and apparently weren't sophisticated enough to make up the multiple criteria needed to segment the music.

Now, I'll agree that PP&M, the Kingston Trio, the Brothers Four, etc were generally folk; but they wound up on the same stations and charts as did Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, and the Beatles. There were even crossovers from country and easy listening artists on occasion.
 
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AM64 said:
Huff, I'm aware you know more than we do about what went on in the 50s and 60s, but you see the same radio stations that played what you consider rock also played what you consider folk in those days. We didn't divvy things up in to neater selections because we just didn't have as many stations available and apparently weren't sophisticated enough to make up the multiple criteria needed to segment the music.
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At no point have I said I know more about the 50s and 60s than you guys do. Every time I bring up a fact, somebody has some smartass thing to say about how I didn't live then. Who cares? It doesn't change that I'm right about the facts I am mentioning.

What do you think my point is? That all music then was bad? All I said is that music about drugs was popular. This is a really weird response.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I don't think food was necessarily more expensive back then, if that's what you're trying to imply. My guess is that food expense (as a percent of income) has gone down largely because there are more expenses today that take a share of that income (e.g. internet, cable, cell phones, etc.) than there were in the past. As such, the "percentage" spent on food as a part of all expenses would be less.
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There a lot of factors that make it a smaller % of our income. We are wealthier now. Advances in technology have made the production of food cheaper. Advances in transportation have made the dissemination of food cheaper. Etc.
 
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n_huffhines said:
There is a reason only one side of this conversation has figures and the other merely has opinions. Get off my lawn!
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Your figures don't mean dick to people that grew up not having to lock things or having to chain everything down. Your comparison is like having one large infected sore to syphilis. It makes it so much better when it is spread all over. And we aren't talking about major violent crime, we are talking about petty theft and such. I'll take my life experience over your numbers, because after all it is MY ****ING OPINION.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
I don't think food was necessarily more expensive back then, if that's what you're trying to imply. My guess is that food expense (as a percent of income) has gone down largely because there are more expenses today that take a share of that income (e.g. internet, cable, cell phones, etc.) than there were in the past. As such, the "percentage" spent on food as a part of all expenses would be less.
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Do these numbers include restaurants and fast food? I would say they may be stats from grocery stores.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Your figures don't mean dick to people that grew up not having to lock things or having to chain everything down. Your comparison is like having one large infected sore to syphilis. It makes it so much better when it is spread all over. And we aren't talking about major violent crime, we are talking about petty theft and such. I'll take my life experience over your numbers, because after all it is MY ****ING OPINION.
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You're obsessed with this one perception about the past. You can have this point. It doesn't outweigh everything else.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That's not the argument I made, but whatever.

BTW, you're about 20 years behind on rap music. Gangster rap isn't very popular anymore (and it was popular among people like me who had nothing to do with that lifestyle... it's just entertainment). Kendrick Lamar raps about struggles with alcohol. Kid Cudi raps about losing his Father to cancer, being a loner, drugs, etc. Kanye West raps about being a god, fashion, gold-diggers, car accidents, etc.
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20 years behind that crap isn't nearly enough. Here is the deal. You missed the first manned space flights, and we all wondered how far we could go the next time. You missed the moon landing, being one of the first in town to get.a television, seeing the first color tv program ever, the excitement of hearing, then seeing the Beatles for the first time.

You missed wondering what new group from England would be the next hot group, the excitement of the new car models being covered in the showroom until THE DAY, the excitement and hope that JFK brought, seeing the very first Super Bowl, watching Wilt battle Bill Russell, seeing Bob Gibson and Sandy Koufax, following your favorite baseball team and knowing that their lineup next year would be the same, and you knew every player and what position they played.

You missed watching Indy and Formula One drivers in the car fighting the steering wheel because the door openings allowed a clear view of the drivers. You missed seeing Richard Petty and Fred Lorenzen battle back when NASCAR didn't suck.

You missed the times when the whole town went to the local high school on Sunday afternoon to take the polio vaccine delivered as a pink spot on a sugar cube. You missed the Saturdays when you were lucky enough to walk or ride your bicycle downtown to watch cowboy movies all afternoon. You missed the drive-in movies and the ice cream shop across from the school, dances at Teen Town, etc. I feel extremely fortunate to have grown up when I did. You wouldn't understand.
 
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1972 Grad said:
20 years behind that crap isn't nearly enough. Here is the deal. You missed the first manned space flights, and we all wondered how far we could go the next time. You missed the moon landing, being one of the first in town to get.a television, seeing the first color tv program ever, the excitement of hearing, then seeing the Beatles for the first time.

You missed wondering what new group from England would be the next hot group, the excitement of the new car models being covered in the showroom until THE DAY, the excitement and hope that JFK brought, seeing the very first Super Bowl, watching Wilt battle Bill Russell, seeing Bob Gibson and Sandy Koufax, following your favorite baseball team and knowing that their lineup next year would be the same, and you knew every player and what position they played.

You missed watching Indy and Formula One drivers in the car fighting the steering wheel because the door openings allowed a clear view of the drivers. You missed seeing Richard Petty and Fred Lorenzen battle back when NASCAR didn't suck.

You missed the times when the whole town went to the local high school on Sunday afternoon to take the polio vaccine delivered as a pink spot on a sugar cube. You missed the Saturdays when you were lucky enough to walk or ride your bicycle downtown to watch cowboy movies all afternoon. You missed the drive-in movies and the ice cream shop across from the school, dances at Teen Town, etc. I feel extremely fortunate to have grown up when I did. You wouldn't understand.
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But there are comparable "firsts" today, and there are more of them. I got to play video games against kids in China. Sandy Koufax was great, but so was Greg Maddux. I knew every f-ing baseball player in the entire MLB. I got to play Nintendo. I did go to drive-in movies. I had Saturday morning cartoons. I rode my bike downtown all the time. We had ice cream.

I get to listen to the Beatles as much as I want. Any song, anywhere I want, whether it's in the car, at work, or at the gym.

I don't feel like I missed polio at all. My Uncle was killed by it. Sounds terrible.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But there are comparable "firsts" today, and there are more of them. I got to play video games against kids in China. Sandy Koufax was great, but so was Greg Maddux. I knew every f-ing baseball player in the entire MLB. I got to play Nintendo. I did go to drive-in movies. I had Saturday morning cartoons. I rode my bike downtown all the time. We had ice cream.

I get to listen to the Beatles as much as I want. Any song, anywhere I want, whether it's in the car, at work, or at the gym.

I don't feel like I missed polio at all. My Uncle was killed by it. Sounds terrible.
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I'm not talking about listening to the Beatles. I'm talking about the excitement that surrounded their arrival in the states. Just like the excitement of the first color tv program, the excitement and anticipation of space travel, etc . I told you that you wouldn't understand.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I'm not talking about listening to the Beatles. I'm talking about the excitement that surrounded their arrival in the states. Just like the excitement of the first color tv program, the excitement and anticipation of space travel, etc . I told you that you wouldn't understand.
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What you don't seem to understand is that you are conflating the fun of being a kid in the 60s with the idea that the 60s were a better time to live. Being a kid is awesome. You weren't a kid in the 80s, so you wouldn't know if my experience was better than yours or not. All you know is that you loved your experience.

I'm trying to objectively compare everything, which is why I rely on stats. I wholeheartedly believe the 2010s are better than the 1980s because of the data, but I had more fun in the 80s because I was a kid. That doesn't make the 80s better.
 
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Trying to explain growing up in a different time than your audience, is difficult at best.

I was born in 62 and wouldn't trade my 60s and 70s for nothing.

Yeah, we couldn't watch Tennessee football games every Saturday, however, we had John Ward on the radio.

I was a kid, didn't need all this constant bombardment of information, and yet, still wasn't totally ignorant. I had the time to be and the outlook of - a kid.

Music had heart and soul then. If there were drug or political messages in the music, it was delivered to the listener (kid) as an undertone. Music is now laced with in-your-face messages that I wouldn't want my kids listening to. (Luckily, mine are grown and on their own).

Mercy, that black and white Gameboy you spoke of... My oldest son was born in 84 and that was his first game system also. Lol

Like I said in an earlier post, albeit not so clearly, everyone grows up with their own perspective - their own environment. Stats are stats, but they do not take the place of our memories of how it was in our little part of the world.

Flame on, bro's.

GBO!!!
 
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I gotta admit that being able to listen to whatever song I want whenever I want has made me get tired of a lot of songs a lot quicker than I used to. There was something special about tracking down obscure music in various record stores, etc. Also something magical about hearing a song on the radio once when you're like 13 and then hearing it again a decade later, out of the blue.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Nothing beats a good stick, I don't care how rich or young you were. A good stick was a great find.
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We would search for ones that were vaguely gun-shaped and play cops and robbers. The imagination is a great and wonderful thing.
 
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I remember making mix tapes of all kinds. Recording songs off the radio at first...then double decks came out and you could copy cassettes. Making tapes for lifting weights on playing ball, love songs for the girls etc. Each generation has things that are unique to their time.

The 80s are when I was a child. Born in 77, the year Elvis died. Even having not been around for longer, I can see that this country has lost its innocence, it's decency. Try raising a kid now...or 2 like me. Bad language and sexuality are in your face commonplace. Any mistake a kid makes today outside of their home like throwing up, or falling down, or a bloody nose...is likely to be recorded on a cell phone and blasted across the Internet to millions, recorded permanently in cyberspace. There is no more privacy, at all.

Also, people seem to have no shame. When I was a kid we were very poor after my parents split, but my mom wouldn't take a handout because she had self respect. People didn't take handouts back then unless they were homeless or an inch away. These days it seems like it's popular to have an EBT card. Everybody's doING it. There is no stigma attached to abusing the government, the church, or any other sucker.that is willing to give.

Theft is out of control. You can point to whatever statistics you want about murder, rape etc...I know good and well that when I was a kid you didn't have to chain everything up to keep people from stealing it. People will literally steal ANYTHING these days. Anything that can be sold or melted or traded for dope. Used to be that for the most part crime was only prevalent in urban areas. Now it is pervasive in small towns and the country. That's why the older people here notice it so much more. It hasn't been where they live until now.

Howany people you know that still teach their kids manners? You hear a lot of sir and maam? When I was a kid that was the only way am adult was adressed. And children were to be seen and not heard. Not only do people not teach their kids to treat other adults with respect anymore, they don't even make their own kids treat them with respect. I see it all the time coaching soccer. Kids talk to their parents like they are hired help. Say things that my mom would have publicly beat me for saying to anyone, much less to her. This is because parents are afraid to spank their own dang kids. Or too lazy to put down that remote or cell and parent. Many of the parentsame I see are so self absorbed they miss all of practice and half of the games because they won't get off Facebook or Twitter on their phones long enough to be a real parent.

Rant over. No need for the soapbox.
 
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