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#227
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Weezer said:
Huff, as I said previously, there is no denying some things are better today, but there is nothing wrong with missing that sense of comfort and security that existed in past generations. There was more emphasis on community back then, and I miss that. Today's world is full of people who only worry about themselves. Yes, there are still some good people out there, but so many people have turned to a more materialistic world view.
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Had this discussion in Sunday school about education. Back then each neighborhood had its own elementary school. The middle and high schools were tied to the community too. Your teachers lived in your neighborhood. Now you have these mega schools, kids from all over, no sense of community or identity, parents not driving halfway across town for parent teacher meetings, teachers educating kids they know nothing about, etc. Not all progress is good.
 
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You guys are missing the point. You can't go back in time and find gems like this

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One thing that I would like to ask is if you all think that music and tv shows reflect the times. If you think that they do, then what seems to be happier music......Doo Wop music and love ballads of the 50's, or some of the angry rap lyrics and head banging, frenetic music of today? Which TV shows seem like happier times.....The Donna Reed Show, Father Knows Best, Andy Griffith , Leave it to Beaver, or The Walking Dead, Fear of the Walking Dead, etc?
 
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1972 Grad said:
One thing that I would like to ask is if you all think that music and tv shows reflect the times. If you think that they do, then what seems to be happier music......Doo Wop music and love ballads of the 50's, or some of the angry rap lyrics and head banging, frenetic music of today? Which TV shows seem like happier times.....The Donna Reed Show, Father Knows Best, Andy Griffith , Leave it to Beaver, or The Walking Dead, Fear of the Walking Dead, etc?
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They do, but only to a certain degree. In the 50s and 60s, I would say TV shows reflected what people would tolerate on TV moreso than what was actually going on in the world. Women were becoming liberated sexually, but you couldn't put that on a primetime sitcom. They just wouldn't allow it. If you check out literature, there was a lot more freedom to write about what you wanted and they were publishing books like Animal Farm, 1984, Lord of the Flies, Brave New World, etc.

The 1970s documentary series on Netflix talks about how it was the first time the TV generation actually had control of what was produced. Before then, it was people who didn't grow up on TV. That revolutionized things. They began the transformation of TV and movies into more of an art form.

Not to mention there were only a few channels. When we have 600 TV channels, they're gonna make something for everybody.
 
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n_huffhines said:
They do, but only to a certain degree. In the 50s and 60s, I would say TV shows reflected what people would tolerate on TV moreso than what was actually going on in the world. Women were becoming liberated sexually, but you couldn't put that on a primetime sitcom. They just wouldn't allow it. If you check out literature, there was a lot more freedom to write about what you wanted and they were publishing books like Animal Farm, 1984, Lord of the Flies, Brave New World, etc.

The 1970s documentary series on Netflix talks about how it was the first time the TV generation actually had control of what was produced. Before then, it was people who didn't grow up on TV. That revolutionized things. They began the transformation of TV and movies into more of an art form.

Not to mention there were only a few channels. When we have 600 TV channels, they're gonna make something for everybody.
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You would know more than me since you lived through that time period. I am sure that I just don't remember the outcry for blood and guts on tv, and angry music. I guess there was a clamoring for it, and just not enough channels and radio stations to put it on.
 
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1972 Grad said:
You would know more than me since you lived through that time period. I am sure that I just don't remember the outcry for blood and guts on tv, and angry music. I guess there was a clamoring for it, and just not enough channels and radio stations to put it on.
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That's not the argument I made, but whatever.

BTW, you're about 20 years behind on rap music. Gangster rap isn't very popular anymore (and it was popular among people like me who had nothing to do with that lifestyle... it's just entertainment). Kendrick Lamar raps about struggles with alcohol. Kid Cudi raps about losing his Father to cancer, being a loner, drugs, etc. Kanye West raps about being a god, fashion, gold-diggers, car accidents, etc.
 
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n_huffhines said:
That's not the argument I made, but whatever.

BTW, you're about 20 years behind on rap music. Gangster rap isn't very popular anymore (and it was popular among people like me who had nothing to do with that lifestyle... it's just entertainment). Kendrick Lamar raps about struggles with alcohol. Kid Cudi raps about losing his Father to cancer, being a loner, drugs, etc. Kanye West raps about being a god, fashion, gold-diggers, car accidents, etc.
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There is still loads of trap music/crack rap still being made. Leaving church last week I was allowed to sample some at a red light from the car beside me. Every other word was f or n. I saw something move in the back, guy had a kid in a car seat. Raisin em right I guess.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
There is still loads of trap music/crack rap still being made. Leaving church last week I was allowed to sample some at a red light from the car beside me. Every other word was f or n. I saw something move in the back, guy had a kid in a car seat. Raisin em right I guess.
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Is that any worse than my parents raising me on 60s and 70s rock music that glorified drug use?

I don't think music has the negative power people claim it has, tho the music you mention may indicate there are other things wrong with their parenting.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Is that any worse than my parents raising me on 60s and 70s rock music that glorified drug use?

I don't think music has the negative power people claim it has, tho the music you mention may indicate there are other things wrong with their parenting.
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So I guess you are one of the firmly convinced that "Puff, the Magic Dragon" was about drugs?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Is that any worse than my parents raising me on 60s and 70s rock music that glorified drug use?

I don't think music has the negative power people claim it has, tho the music you mention may indicate there are other things wrong with their parenting.
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Proof's in the pudding I suppose.
 
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"Puff the Magic Dragon" was actually an innocent song, but Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" was absolutely about drugs.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Damn, i've never wanted a time machine more than now. I'd love to send you guys back to 1955. Hope you don't need a root canal.
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Some things are better, and some aren't. Music is far more portable now and fidelity greatly improved, but the question is why when you hear what "music" is now.

We used to actually have to put a key in the car and turn it - you know before that there were push button starters - generally on the floor? Oh, before Ford started the double sided keys, you actually had to make sure the key was turned the right way - life was really difficult then. So now you can get in with a key fob and push a button - except you can make a little device to intercept a keyless entry code and open doors to empty the car out. Contrast that with a time when people didn't always find it necessary to even lock the car. But back to the key fob. What do you want to bet that somebody has already figured out how to intercept that signal, push the start button, and just drive off with your new car that cost much more than a house cost in the '50s. Is this new stuff fantastic or what?
 
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Just being honest, I'd miss my remote. Back then, I was the remote. "Son, change the channel." lol
 
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MercyPercy said:
Lol, no need to be obtuse. You know that era was full of music glorifying drug use.
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Actually, I don't. You see I don't dissect music like people do Shakespeare. Music is generally something that plays in the background while I'm doing something else, so when I hear "One pill makes you ... and the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all" those are words that go through my head - no literal or other translation - just words - sometimes worthy of thought, but not propaganda or advertising to drag me into another world. But then I have to admit not playing records backwards searching for hidden meaning either. However, I will always remember getting off the bus at the Ft. Benning induction center to the sound of "Somebody to Love".
 
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Weezer said:
Just being honest, I'd miss my remote. Back then, I was the remote. "Son, change the channel." lol
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So many small things like that that I won't ever miss. Rewinding and fastforwarding VHS and cassette tapes took forever, was imprecise (if you wanted to find a song), and ruined the tape.

My Dad and I used to watch Andy Kelly throwing darts on a 19" TV. I feel like I can't see anything on a TV that size today, even when it's HD.
 
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When VCRs first came out, I loved going to the video rental store. Movies in a box. It was like magic. Everybody would search out a movie then we'd decide which ones we were actually going to rent. It was like a family adventure.
 
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