Georgia O-Line

#76
#76
As a resident of Georgia, let me help y'all understand something. Every tailback that's walked on campus in the last 30 years is a generational player and the next Herschel Walker.
 
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#77
#77
sjt18 said:
You would hope that they would make some adjustments after being walked on, right? But if you would really like to play that game then your passing game must be absolutely horrible. FSU's back up QB threw for 304 yds against Clemson. Mason only had 131.

We both know that logic doesn't carry... I hope. But neither does what you just tried to play. I would probably give you Clemson's DL over UT's at this point but I'd take UT's LB's. You can call it homerism but I have observed both groups. Their LB's just don't look very good.

Lastly, I hope you do not actually believe that FSU would have struggled to run the ball that much vs CU if Winston had played. It is pretty obvious that CU's strategy was to make Maguire beat them. Clemson DID expose FSU's Achilles Heel. If Winston goes down... they're toast.
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Actually it does but only if you watched the game and not just read the stat sheet. Mason was 18/26 and they only used the passing game in that one to loosen up the running game. There was no reason to take shots downfield when what you are doing is working. They ran the ball and ran it well so why go away from that?
 
#78
#78
GAVol said:
As a resident of Georgia, let me help y'all understand something. Every tailback that's walked on campus in the last 30 years is a generational player and the next Herschel Walker.
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We have fallen into that a bit in HOPING someone becomes "the next Herschel" .. not sure we use the phrase "generational player" much though. Gurley though, all you have to do is watch the USuCk highlights to realize what type of back this guy is. And Chubb is going to blow people's minds too when it's all said and done. Already having a really good season.
 
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#79
TDawg said:
Even if you take out ALL the negative yardage they only had 63 yards rushing. FSU was still the number 1 team in the country and it was in Tallahassee. With all the talent on that team, they should still be able to move the ball better than that at home.
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OMG dude, get off Clemson vs FSU, it means nothing. The game plan for that QB all week was to run the clock in the first half and not turn the ball over. Winston wasn't suspended for the 2nd half until Friday evening, if we lost Worley Friday evening we would be lucky to get 200yds total offense on Saturday.
 
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ntxVOL said:
OMG dude, get off Clemson vs FSU, it means nothing. The game plan for that QB all week was to run the clock in the first half and not turn the ball over. Winston wasn't suspended for the 2nd half until Friday evening, if we lost Worley Friday evening we would be lucky to get 200yds total offense on Saturday.
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With all the posts on here about OU/WVU, this is a really funny response.
 
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TDawg said:
Actually it does but only if you watched the game and not just read the stat sheet. Mason was 18/26 and they only used the passing game in that one to loosen up the running game. There was no reason to take shots downfield when what you are doing is working. They ran the ball and ran it well so why go away from that?
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No. Your logic simply doesn't carry. You have made some "if-then" relationships that are not correct. Particularly, "if" UGA can run over Clemson in week 1 "then" they will also run over UT in week 5. You support that with a claim that cannot be proven that Clemson's front 7 is either better or at least no worse than UT's.

UGA may run over UT... but it won't be because they ran over Clemson or because Clemson stopped FSU's run game with a back up QB playing.
 
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TDawg said:
We have fallen into that a bit in HOPING someone becomes "the next Herschel" ..
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TDawg, do you ever think there will be a "next Herschel" in the SEC? He averaged over 30 carries a game. If you do that to a player today in the SEC with the LBs and their speed ... and size ... The odds of a kid surviving that...

Sorry ... just a random thought.
 
#83
#83
TDawg said:
With all the posts on here about OU/WVU, this is a really funny response.
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That game actually meant something. OU rushed for about the same yardage as Bama against them. Some would say Bama's stable of RB's are pretty good too. It at least provides a better measuring stick of where our D really is.

Again, it comes down to explosive plays and not allowing your RB's to take over the game. If we hold you to less than 5yds per carry then it's game on.
 
#84
#84
AFTER... I posted what I did earlier about keeping UGA behind the chains... the UT coaches said the same thing in their post practice interviews.

The really important battle in this game is going to be fought between UT's CB's and UGA's WR's. If Sutton can shut down half the field then UT can consistently put 8 in the box on 1st and 2nd down. If one of the other guys can play solid man D on the other WR then it opens up all sorts of run blitz packages that could really create some issues for UGA.

Like Clemson did to FSU... UT is going to try to do to UGA. They will try to force Mason out of his comfort zone as a game manager. He will have to make plays.
 
#85
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citadel84 said:
TDawg, do you ever think there will be a "next Herschel" in the SEC? He averaged over 30 carries a game. If you do that to a player today in the SEC with the LBs and their speed ... and size ... The odds of a kid surviving that...

Sorry ... just a random thought.
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That's a good question actually. I think the term "next Herschel" and "generational player" coexist only because I think guys like Herschel and Bo were good enough to be dominant even today. Will there be another Herschel? I doubt it actually but we can hope. Most guys if they get even close to that level will have enough of their own name that they won't be labeled the next anyone else. Gurley is as close as we have gotten to that combination of size, power and speed and has been a stud since day one his freshman year. He had a great game against Buffalo and everyone thought "eh, it's just Buffalo" but Khalil Mack was in the middle of that and couldn't do anything about it.
 
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TDawg said:
With all the posts on here about OU/WVU, this is a really funny response.
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I do think it may be a better comparison is the point. Clemson vs. FSU... first off I think FSU is overrated this year. I'd call them a top 15, maybe top 10 team but so far they haven't looked like they did last year. Second, Jameis Winston does make that much of a difference, he is that good, without him, FSU is FAR more one dimensional and Clemson STILL couldn't win. I would be completely okay with the two comparisons if Winston had played or at least played the second half.
 
#87
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ntxVOL said:
That game actually meant something. OU rushed for about the same yardage as Bama against them. Some would say Bama's stable of RB's are pretty good too. It at least provides a better measuring stick of where our D really is.

Again, it comes down to explosive plays and not allowing your RB's to take over the game. If we hold you to less than 5yds per carry then it's game on.
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I agree completely with the last statement there. And all I am trying to say is the Clemson/FSU game certainly meant something on the national stage and for Clemson ...

5 ypc is a tall order but if that happens, it will be a battle for sure.
 
#88
#88
So how many of Bama's recent stud RB's would you consider "generational" players? Not only were they unstoppable at times... they won championships.
 
#89
#89
sjt18 said:
AFTER... I posted what I did earlier about keeping UGA behind the chains... the UT coaches said the same thing in their post practice interviews.

The really important battle in this game is going to be fought between UT's CB's and UGA's WR's. If Sutton can shut down half the field then UT can consistently put 8 in the box on 1st and 2nd down. If one of the other guys can play solid man D on the other WR then it opens up all sorts of run blitz packages that could really create some issues for UGA.

Like Clemson did to FSU... UT is going to try to do to UGA. They will try to force Mason out of his comfort zone as a game manager. He will have to make plays.
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I disagree with you on this. I think the real battle that will win this game for UT will be exploiting our weak spots between the LBs and DBs.. We have proven that we can put points on the board without going deep down the field with Hudson and the WRs.
 
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TDawg said:
That's a good question actually. I think the term "next Herschel" and "generational player" coexist only because I think guys like Herschel and Bo were good enough to be dominant even today. Will there be another Herschel? I doubt it actually but we can hope. Most guys if they get even close to that level will have enough of their own name that they won't be labeled the next anyone else. Gurley is as close as we have gotten to that combination of size, power and speed and has been a stud since day one his freshman year. He had a great game against Buffalo and everyone thought "eh, it's just Buffalo" but Khalil Mack was in the middle of that and couldn't do anything about it.
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JMO, when you compare your current RB's to Bo or Herschel there isn't much difference in size but everyone else on the defensive side of the ball are bigger. This is a problem for RB's in today's game and the reason you can't expect one guy to carry the load anymore.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
I do think it may be a better comparison is the point. Clemson vs. FSU... first off I think FSU is overrated this year. I'd call them a top 15, maybe top 10 team but so far they haven't looked like they did last year. Second, Jameis Winston does make that much of a difference, he is that good, without him, FSU is FAR more one dimensional and Clemson STILL couldn't win. I would be completely okay with the two comparisons if Winston had played or at least played the second half.
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And I can respect that. My only point is that with the recruiting Free Seafood U has done over the last 5 years or so, they are hardly a one man show.
 
#92
#92
citadel84 said:
I disagree with you on this. I think the real battle that will win this game for UT will be exploiting our weak spots between the LBs and DBs.. We have proven that we can put points on the board without going deep down the field with Hudson and the WRs.
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You missed the point. I'm not necessarily talking about going downfield. I am talking about being able to take away the pass on 1st and 2nd downs consistently while loading the box against the run.
 
#93
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ntxVOL said:
JMO, when you compare your current RB's to Bo or Herschel there isn't much difference in size but everyone else on the defensive side of the ball are bigger. This is a problem for RB's in today's game and the reason you can't expect one guy to carry the load anymore.
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There isn't going to be another Herschel.

Everyone in the stadium knew who was getting the ball. In today's offenses, Herschel would average 8 yards a carry.
You can believe I am a homer if you wish, but opposing coaches and talking heads have said Gurley is a generational player.
 
#94
#94
sjt18 said:
You missed the point. I'm not necessarily talking about going downfield. I am talking about being able to take away the pass on 1st and 2nd downs consistently while loading the box against the run.
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I see what you mean. Just was not thinking in that direction .... Don't know about the play selection by down but we are running about 2/3 of the time. And with a 7.7 yard per rush average don't see us changing that much.

I think we get our yards and points especially playing in Athens. You will beat us by exploiting our glaring weakness in the secondary.
 
#95
#95
citadel84 said:
I see what you mean. Just was not thinking in that direction .... Don't know about the play selection by down but we are running about 2/3 of the time. And with a 7.7 yard per rush average don't see us changing that much.

I think we get our yards and points especially playing in Athens. You will beat us by exploiting our glaring weakness in the secondary.
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Citadel84 - I'm a Citadel 84 grad too...if that's what your login means. Wish our Dawgs could be better!...school is just too small to keep up nowadays.

Pretty fair and level headed analysis thus far. I'll be pulling for the VOLS to beat UGA and think they can stay in the game with the same intensity displayed in the first 3 games
 
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#96
GAVol said:
As a resident of Georgia, let me help y'all understand something. Every tailback that's walked on campus in the last 30 years is a generational player and the next Herschel Walker.
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Haha this is so true! But on the other hand, there are quite a few here that do the same thing about Manning lol
 
#97
#97
TDawg said:
I think that kind of stuff is being said because of the previous years OLine .. this one is smaller but WAY more athletic and getting big blocks where needed. And as we saw in the USuCk game, Gurley doesn't need a whole heck of a lot to make a run happen. The self-made 3rd and 16 is a prime example.
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Well there it is. Guess we should mark it down as a L.
Troll
 
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#99
OrangeIsLife said:
All the sports talkers on radio and TV are saying that Georgia can/will run the ball down everyone's throat. Just one question. Why didn't they do that to an obviously overrated South Carolina team?
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Richt. Not a great coach considering the gobs of talent flowing through Athens
 
#100
#100
JC61 said:
Citadel84 - I'm a Citadel 84 grad too...if that's what your login means. Wish our Dawgs could be better!...school is just too small to keep up nowadays.

Pretty fair and level headed analysis thus far. I'll be pulling for the VOLS to beat UGA and think they can stay in the game with the same intensity displayed in the first 3 games
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JC - It sure does ... Is there a way to send messages in volnation? I was in Hotel Co. You?

Grew up a Georgia fan and remain so today. Most everyone else at El Cid were either Clemson or SC ... This Vol team can most certainly beat Georgia. They are improving every week. Having started so many freshman to being the season ... those players now have four games starting experience. 9 out of 10 times this game goes to the wire.
 
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