General Nathan Bedford Forrest Billboard in Selma

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Pepe_Silvia said:
Forrest was very instinctual. And he was a better combat commander than Stuart imo. It's been a while since I've dusted off any of my Forrest books, but if I recall correctly he never lost a battle in which he was the lead commander.
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Read about Forrest and the battle of Johnsonville Tn (now New Johnsonville). Interesting story and a great battle tactics.
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
I think the point of what FP was saying (I can hardly believe I'm defending him) is that Southern generals like NFB are held in far greater contempt for their misdeeds than the Northern generals like Grant and Sherman who are lauded as heroes, yet who did equal, if not worse, evils.
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As Napoleon stated, "History is a fable agreed upon."
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
I think the point of what FP was saying (I can hardly believe I'm defending him) is that Southern generals like NFB are held in far greater contempt for their misdeeds than the Northern generals like Grant and Sherman who are lauded as heroes, yet who did equal, if not worse, evils.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into FP's argument, but that was what I got from it.

It was logic on a long detour.
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What Sherman did on his march to Atlanta set the South back at least 100 years.
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
No, I agree that firing on Ft. Sumter was bad because it gave Lincoln the ammunition he wanted to declare war.

However, that doesn't justify the North's invasion.

Lincoln WANTED the South to fire and forced their hand.
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Actually, it does.
 
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A bit off topic, but this thread got me thinking about some of my family history. You guys might appreciate this story. Fielding Hurst goes back about 7 generations on my father's side.

Fielding Hurst | Entries | Tennessee Encyclopedia

In July 1863, Hurst’s regiment accompanied Federal units into Jackson, Tennessee, to break up pockets of Confederate troops returning to the area. After a brief but intense battle, portions of the city lay almost completely in ruins. Criticized for their actions, the Federal units involved shifted the blame for the destruction to Hurst’s men. Fielding futilely protested the charges, and Federal commanders fined the Sixth Tennessee Cavalry (USA) over five thousand dollars from its payroll to reimburse the citizens of Jackson, many of whom were avowed secessionists.
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Union or no, he was kind of a badass. Burned the town I was born in to the ground, haha.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
A bit off topic, but this thread got me thinking about some of my family history. You guys might appreciate this story. Fielding Hurst goes back about 7 generations on my father's side.

Fielding Hurst | Entries | Tennessee Encyclopedia



Union or no, he was kind of a badass. Burned the town I was born in to the ground, haha.
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Likewise I did some research on my family tree not long ago. I have several family members that enlisted in the Confederacy. One name in particular was my Great-Great Grandfather that I traced to Richmond, Virginia. He died of typhoid fever in 1862 at Chimborazo Hospital.

Did some further research and was able to find his grave. Interesting stuff.

Chimborazo Hospital - Richmond National Battlefield Park (U.S. National Park Service)
 

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DinkinFlicka said:
A bit off topic, but this thread got me thinking about some of my family history. You guys might appreciate this story. Fielding Hurst goes back about 7 generations on my father's side.

Fielding Hurst | Entries | Tennessee Encyclopedia



Union or no, he was kind of a badass. Burned the town I was born in to the ground, haha.
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Wow. Thanks for the history lesson about Hurst & Jackson being burned down to the ground in 1863. It says Hurst died destitute in 1882 w/no heirs but only leaving his wife. After he was dead & buried he was still hated very much to the point that the scorn of his detractors would ride over his grave & spit on it as they would be on their way.
 
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My great great grandfather fought for the Confederate States of America. Captured in Virginia in July 1864. Sent to Hellmira Prison in Elmira, New York. He, along with the other Confederate prisoners, were nearly starved to death, drank water from the latrine. Endured New York winter, many in tents. Hellmira had the highest mortality rate of any prison north or South.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
My great great grandfather fought for the Confederate States of America. Captured in Virginia in July 1864. Sent to Hellmira Prison in Elmira, New York. He, along with the other Confederate prisoners, were nearly starved to death, drank water from the latrine. Endured New York winter, many in tents. Hellmira had the highest mortality rate of any prison north or South.
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Even higher than Andersonville?
 
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Burhead said:
Even higher than Andersonville?
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Some historians say higher than Andersonville. Others say the mortality rate at Elmira was 25%, and Andersonville was 29%. The Southern civilians were starving, Confederate soldiers were starving, so the South simply did not have the food to feed the yankee prisoners.

At Elmira, the Southern prisoners were intentionally starved. Family members of prisoners sent blankets to the prisoners at Elmira to try to keep them warm inside their tents during the New York winter, but the yankees burned them. Imagine yourself in the state of New York, living inside a tent for the entire winter, and the only food you were fed every day was bread and water. No vegetables. No meat.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Wow. Thanks for the history lesson about Hurst & Jackson being burned down to the ground in 1863. It says Hurst died destitute in 1882 w/no heirs but only leaving his wife. After he was dead & buried he was still hated very much to the point that the scorn of his detractors would ride over his grave & spit on it as they would be on their way.
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His home in McNairy is regularly vandalized to this day. I first learned about him when my father and I ate at the Catfish Hotel in Paris (not sure?) and sat at the table next to his portrait. Of course, my father added his own falsehoods into the story.

"He used to mount his enemy's heads on pikes!"

"He would have a Haram of kidnapped women!"

"He was shot in the back by his own men!"
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
His home in McNairy is regularly vandalized to this day. I first learned about him when my father and I ate at the Catfish Hotel in Paris (not sure?) and sat at the table next to his portrait. Of course, my father added his own falsehoods into the story.

"He used to mount his enemy's heads on pikes!"

"He would have a Haram of kidnapped women!"

"He was shot in the back by his own men!"
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There's a place called Hagy's Catfish Hotel right next to Shiloh battlefield. Not sure if that's the same place you're referring to.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
His home in McNairy is regularly vandalized to this day. I first learned about him when my father and I ate at the Catfish Hotel in Paris (not sure?) and sat at the table next to his portrait. Of course, my father added his own falsehoods into the story.

"He used to mount his enemy's heads on pikes!"

"He would have a Haram of kidnapped women!"

"He was shot in the back by his own men!"
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Falsehoods or not it sounds (or reads) as though he was one mean sumb*tch anyway....no offense. :)
 
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