Gawd I loathe Alabama & Nick

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Mose Phillip's Watch said:
Yap cause he cheats & once he retires your program will be mediocre again
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Bama is more than one man.
It takes a village to raise a program.
Nobody hates all things crimson more than me. But one must give a tip of the hat to support their program receives. Football fans are generally not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Maybe our southern neighbor just has a butt load of dull knife citizens that live vicariously through the exploits of the tide.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
This is a dream that some TN fans need to wake up from. Will they be exactly like they have been? No. But Bama will still be elite.
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That probably depends on whether or not they can pull Dabo Swinney away from Clemson. That is by no means a sure thing. I am old enough to remember 1983. Those two sentences in bold are expressing the same sentiment that most people had following Bear Bryant's retirement/death. Aside from the brief stretch of 1989-1994, Alabama was mediocre in the 24 seasons played between the end of Bryant and the beginning of Saban (1983-2006). Bill Curry actually left Alabama for Kentucky in January of 1990, following a 10 win season, because he couldn't cope with the unrealistic expectations of the Bama fan base in the aftermath of Bryant. I can't imagine the pressure that Saban's successor will be under.

For you youngsters out there, even if you still count the 1993 game as a tie (which Alabama later forfeited), Tennessee actually had a winning record vs Alabama (13-10-1) in the 24 games played between the end of Bryant's tenure and the beginning of Saban's tenure. That is probably hard for anyone under the age of 21 to believe.
 
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Bama absolutely cleaned up in Florida this year. They signed 7 of the top 15 or so recruits from Florida. How does UF, Miami, and FSU let that happen?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That probably depends on whether or not they can pull Dabo Swinney away from Clemson. That is by no means a sure thing. I am old enough to remember 1983. Those two sentences in bold are expressing the same sentiment that most people had following Bear Bryant's retirement/death. Aside from the brief stretch of 1989-1994, Alabama was mediocre in the 24 seasons played between the end of Bryant and the beginning of Saban (1983-2006). Bill Curry actually left Alabama for Kentucky in January of 1990, following a 10 win season, because he couldn't cope with the unrealistic expectations of the Bama fan base in the aftermath of Bryant. I can't imagine the pressure that Saban's successor will be under.

For you youngsters out there, even if you still count the 1993 game as a tie (which Alabama later forfeited), Tennessee actually had a winning record vs Alabama (13-10-1) in the 24 games played between the end of Bryant's tenure and the beginning of Saban's tenure. That is probably hard for anyone under the age of 21 to believe.
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Bama was 195-93-2 between Bryant and Saban. 3 SEC titles and one natty. I think most UT fans would take that over the next 24 years considering the shape the program is in now.
 
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DukeDaisySam said:
Bama was 195-93-2 between Bryant and Saban. 3 SEC titles and one natty. I think most UT fans would take that over the next 24 years considering the shape the program is in now.
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I gave a "brief stretch of 1989-1994" allowance for the 1992 National Championship and for the 1989 SEC Championship which they shared with Auburn and Tennessee. I still say that outside of those years they were mediocre from the beginning of the Ray Perkins tenure to the end of the Mike Shula tenure. Their 1999 SEC Championship was allowed to stand, but it is more than slightly tainted by the corruption which was obviously taking place during the Mike DuBose years. Alabama also went on probation, with sanctions including a bowl ban, on two separate occasions (1995 and 2001) during the years in between Bryant and Saban which I didn't even mention. It is accurate to say they were mediocre.
 
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bamawriter said:
Glass houses...
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When the student learns from the teacher by both observations and activities what he practices at another location and is not tolerated by the administrative folks in charge, and yet the teacher continues to go forward unchallenged... there is a difference
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I gave a "brief stretch of 1989-1994" allowance for the 1992 National Championship and for the 1989 SEC Championship which they shared with Auburn and Tennessee. I still say that outside of those years they were mediocre from the beginning of the Ray Perkins tenure to the end of the Mike Shula tenure. Their 1999 SEC Championship was allowed to stand, but it is more than slightly tainted by the corruption which was obviously taking place during the Mike DuBose years. Alabama also went on probation, with sanctions including a bowl ban, on two separate occasions (1995 and 2001) during the years in between Bryant and Saban which I didn't even mention. It is accurate to say they were mediocre.
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195-93-2 is mediocre?
 
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Coastypop said:
When the student learns from the teacher by both observations and activities what he practices at another location and is not tolerated by the administrative folks in charge, and yet the teacher continues to go forward unchallenged... there is a difference
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This.

If Bama can cheat and it is tolerated in the AD and there is no pushback from the powers that be in the SEC and NCAA, then more power to them. Way to go.

Doesn’t change the fact that the cheating organization is more ethically corrupt than the one that doesn’t tolerate it. Actually putting the two programs in perspective, the “glass houses” type comments are a sad and impotent attempt to equalize two cheating programs as the cut from the same cloth.
 
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DukeDaisySam said:
195-93-2 is mediocre?
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Outside of the years 1989-1994, Alabama's results were mediocre from the start of the Ray Perkins tenure through the Mike Shula tenure. This is especially true when you also factor in their two separate stretches on probation with sanctions, and their losing records vs their two biggest rivals in those years (Auburn and Tennessee). Alabama was 10-13-1 vs Tennessee and 10-14 vs Auburn. They changed head coaches 5 times, not including the embarrassing Mike Price fiasco. Ray Perkins left them for the worst team in the NFL at the time. Bill Curry left them for the 2nd worst team in the SEC at the time and Dennis Franchione left them for Texas A&M. Mike DuBose left them for his secretary. Mike Price left them for a stripper. Put all of that together and you have mediocrity.
 
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Coastypop said:
When the student learns from the teacher by both observations and activities what he practices at another location and is not tolerated by the administrative folks in charge, and yet the teacher continues to go forward unchallenged... there is a difference
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Do you honestly think that Tennessee would be self-reporting all these violations if they were winning?
 
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rjd970 said:
Actually putting the two programs in perspective, the “glass houses” type comments are a sad and impotent attempt to equalize two cheating programs as the cut from the same cloth.
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If you took that as me attempting to "equalize" the two programs, then you badly misunderstood.
 
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bamawriter said:
Do you honestly think that Tennessee would be self-reporting all these violations if they were winning?
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Do you honestly think Bama doesn’t violate NCAA rule on a larger and wider scale than other programs?
 
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bamawriter said:
If you took that as me attempting to "equalize" the two programs, then you badly misunderstood.
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Reading comprehension isn’t really your strong suit. The equalize comment was about the ethical practices of each institution. They absolutely aren’t equal despite your attempt to put UT and Bama the same cheating stratosphere.


I understand you have a weird fetish for affirmation on a rivals board that Bama has dominated, even if it is in the NCAA forum, but this is dumb.
 
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