Game Thread Lady Vols at Penn State

#277
#277
Slydell said:
Dammit coaches! You need to make those shots. Coaches didn't shoot worth a crap tonight.
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lol or set screens or back screen or Holly why didn't u run the baseline during the zone, Dean, u didn't box out, Law, why did u miss 5 wide open threes, why didn't u pump for a mid range jumper, Reeves, why didn't u get to the paint.

Love it. lol
 
#279
#279
Amb3096 said:
Because Alexa can shoot the ball, and she is the best passing guard (other than Diamond). It becomes a trade off. She hurts the team defensively because she will easily get beaten off the dribble by most PGs. But on the flip side, they become a more difficult team to guard because she's been lighting it up from outside the perimeter. There is a lot more upside to having her on the court as opposed to someone like Jordan who is not much better of a defender and much less capable.

I don't think that this team has the pieces to be really good unless PG play improves. It's clear that Jordan is the same player she's been for 3 years, so I don't expect much to change unless Alexa becomes a better defender and starts taking Jordan's minutes.
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Its clear Middleton is just not a great player. But damn she loves to dribble behind her back.
 
#280
#280
brassie said:
The announcers at the UConn game mentioned that Dangerfield wanted to go to Tennessee but she opted for UConn because Tennessee already had a point guard and Jefferson was graduating from UConn.
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That's what I thought. With Te'a on the team Dangerfield thought she might had been playing behind her. But I think she made the best decision of her bball life by choosing UConn.

She needed and wanted to be coached by the best coach in the business. Can't fault her for that.
 
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#281
#281
TN1111 said:
Maybe so, but there's absolutely no reason to be losing to Penn State regardless who's playing guard. Alabama beat this team last year. Something tells me there's more to our problems than better guard play. Hopefully you're right and that will fix all our issues.
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I am right, trust me....have you seen Reynolds try and make a layup...she jump steps to do it.....just like Massengale...whom also wasn't a good guard in my eyes.

Alexa is just too slow to keep up with the type of guards that are good these days....her game would have been great back in the 90s, just not today.

Guard Play and Defense wins championships.....we lack both this year...we should SO lower our expectations this year with the players we have! We're just not that good this year people and it's okay.

I remember last year when we didn't have a single recruit and a select few of us (the optimist) knew 2017 and 2018 was going to be huge recruiting years for us and we're halfway home. Holly KNOWS what we need and she's went out and got the players that will get us back to the top! I'm not player bashing cause I love the players we have as people, but some of their basketball skills just aren't up to par with the rest of WCB this year!
 
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#284
teacherdean said:
Does anyone think that perhaps PSU is better coached? Just throwing it out there.
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Coquese Washington came from the Notre Dame Muffet McGraw coaching tree. Her recruiting has tapered off and her results have suffered but when she has an okay team they play tough/ I remember back 2012 through 2013 Penn St and UConn had some really good games.
 
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#286
cwbytruckers said:
Its clear Middleton is just not a great player. But damn she loves to dribble behind her back.
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I don't think Alexa needs to be a great player. She just needs to be a competent one. I can't say that Jordan has been that thus far in her career: afraid to shoot, non-descript passing skills, and stands around a lot.

And yes, I wish Alexa would stop that behind that back dribble. It's so slow that her defender can run to the bench, grab a sip of water, run back on the court and pick off the behind-the-back dribble before Alexa's come full circle. She needs to keep it simple.
 
#288
#288
LadyVol1908 said:
I am right, trust me....have you seen Reynolds try and make a layup...she jump steps to do it.....just like Massengale...whom also wasn't a good guard in my eyes.
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There is no comparison between Massengale and Reynolds. Ariel could pass, attack the basket, shoot the long ball and run an offense. She could be inconsistent, but this would be a top 5 team with Ariel running the point. Reynolds was probably the worst starting PG for the SEC teams with winning records, and she was worse than some of the ones on teams with losing records.
 
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#289
Amb3096 said:
I don't think Alexa needs to be a great player. She just needs to be a competent one. I can't say that Jordan has been that thus far in her career: afraid to shoot, non-descript passing skills, and stands around a lot.

And yes, I wish Alexa would stop that behind that back dribble. It's so slow that her defender can run to the bench, grab a sip of water, run back on the court and pick off the behind-the-back dribble before Alexa's come full circle. She needs to keep it simple.
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And most of the time she is in traffic and it looks like she is about to get double teamed. I'm surprised she doesn't lose the dribble more often. Cooper is going to be missed this year.
 
#290
#290
Here we go again!! Is Holly ever going to get it? I see the same plays and mistakes that we made last year. They better get it pulled together pretty fast or we go down exactly the same road as we did last year.


What should have been an easy win turns into a circus yet again!!!

Hope the new recruits will stick with us!

Get it straight Holly before it is too late!!!
 
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#292
#292
We are lacking leadership--at the top and on the floor. Reynolds should be leading this team, and DeShields. Do they lead? Doesn't seem like it. This was EXACTLY how we started last year--and that is troubling.
 
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#293
#293
The announcers said that the Lady Vols were installing a read and react offensive system this year. That is a bit worrisome because to do that you MUST have players with high basketball IQ. High basketball IQ cannot be taught at this level it has to be recruited. I am not sure that the current roster has more than 4 active players that would work well in a read & react system.

Maybe that was an emphasis for the incoming class? Otherwise, I am not really sure how a system like that would work out especially with all that youth next year and possibly the players that would work best in it leaving before the new highly ranked class comes in to be able to help coach them up. Either way sounds like they are working on the offense, not sure what's going on with the defense.
 
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#296
armchair said:
We are lacking leadership--at the top and on the floor. Reynolds should be leading this team, and DeShields. Do they lead? Doesn't seem like it. This was EXACTLY how we started last year--and that is troubling.
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I thought DeShields did a good job in the 3Q of being aggressive and getting her teammates (mainly Nared) some great passes that led to easy buckets. She led the team with 5 assists. Jordan had 1 assist in 36 minutes...the same as Kortney Dunbar, whose assist I think came as a result of an airball that was about 3 feet short of the basket and landed right in Russell's hands...
 
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#298
Amb3096 said:
There is no comparison between Massengale and Reynolds. Ariel could pass, attack the basket, shoot the long ball and run an offense. She could be inconsistent, but this would be a top 5 team with Ariel running the point. Reynolds was probably the worst starting PG for the SEC teams with winning records, and she was worse than some of the ones on teams with losing records.
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Would Massengale be an improvement over Reynolds. Yea, but only because she could hit some threes as a junior/senior. She was a disappointment at PG herself--a pretty serious disappointment, IMO. As a freshman I thought she'd be outstanding. Nope: She was soft, never really developed as a point guard, was a fairly lazy defender. She could hit some threes, as I said, but that was about all she could do. Our guards NEVER develop. Reynolds is a not a PG and not a shooting guard. She needs a more well-defined role. Middleton should be our PG, IMO--she understandw how to play PG and can pass. Reynolds should focus on using her body and scoring. That's what I'd do--but I'm sure Warlick won't do it.
 
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#299
armchair said:
Would Massengale be an improvement over Reynolds. Yea, but only because she could hit some threes as a junior/senior. She was a disappointment at PG herself--a pretty serious disappointment, IMO. As a freshman I thought she'd be outstanding. Nope: She was soft, never really developed as a point guard, was a fairly lazy defender. She could hit some threes, as I said, but that was about all she could do. Our guards NEVER develop. Reynolds is a not a PG and not a shooting guard. She needs a more well-defined role. Middleton should be our PG, IMO--she understandw how to play PG and can pass. Reynolds should focus on using her body and scoring. That's what I'd do--but I'm sure Warlick won't do it.
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Agree on Massengale!
 
#300
#300
Amb3096 said:
She's half-right, I'd say. Jordan really isn't that good...
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Do you remember when Shekinna Stricklen was forced to play point guard? I'm thinking this is the same issue with Jordan. They are both 2 guards.

Anyway you cut it Tennessee is in a world of trouble at point guard.

There was one point in the game where Cedes got free while in the post. She was wide open with her arms stretched out demanding the ball. Jordan dribbling at the top of the key looking just looking at her. I was like screaming pass the ball to her she's wide open! Too late. Turnover. PSU's ball.
 
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