Gabe Lazo Out

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KnoxLikeUs said:
That’s because none of the assistant coaches on this staff are natural leaders.. most posters here don’t look beyond the surface when understanding key decisions. Coach Ferrara at FSU has stepped in before in a head coach role when their head coach had to step away to take leave. This guy has a strong presence as a leader. I think this hire will help out Coach Caldwell tremendously, and also give her other assistant Coach Burdette someone she can mirror to gain a perspective from being an offensive minded coach.
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How in the world did our program get to the point where we are happy an incoming assistant might be able to help another assistant coach and the head coach with their weaknesses. Thanks DW!
 
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madtownvol said:
Don't get it twisted. This situation has nothing do the fans and whatever rationalizations and justifications get posted on this board. In fact, I would bet if you took a poll season ticket holders, the results would lean strongly to coaching change.

The only relevant player here is the AD Danny White. The social media rumors were very strong that key donors wanted a change. You would think that would have some impact but, it is fairly obvious at this point, that White wants to prove he made the right call and is sticking with CKC.

What will be interesting will be seeing what counts as a "good enough" season for White to give CKC a 4th year.
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18-12 will be touted as progress by ole Danny next year. Not sure what happened to all that talk from him about all of our sports needing to compete for championships, but here we are.
 
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A certain LSU WBB head coach, of notorious fashion choices, recently won a national championship. The same year her team's OOC schedule included a plethora of cupcakes. Why, you ask, did her team win THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP?


KnoxLikeUs said:
Because Kim Mulkey plays a crap non-conference schedule
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Volstylexx said:
It's "not factual" is subjective, only because the talent didn't translate to wins. On paper, it was very much the most talented team we've had in a decade. Heralded 5 star recruits, All-Americans, started the season top 10... so I would argue, we indeed did waste a talented team.

You can argue the reason the talent didn't translate - but it's safe to say these kids will likely be successful in other programs. There's plenty of evidence across sports to show where that usually holds true.
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High school ranking are meaningless unless they actually do it in college. How many college All-Americans did we have, the answer is 0. This isn‘t just hindsight for me, I said before the season this roster wasn’t good, but I didn’t think it would have been that bad.
 
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Seriously, not to argue with you but does that make sense to you before I provide substance?

Lucy said:
How in the world did our program get to the point where we are happy an incoming assistant might be able to help another assistant coach and the head coach with their weaknesses. Thanks DW!
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LadyVolsDiehard said:
But no one calls it a red flag for some reason.
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I teach this in my college business comm class. It's a "new social contract" that I think @brittannica alluded to earlier. We live in a world of "I owe you nothing" from both an organizational and employee perspective. If we see 2 years of work history that's actually viewed as a positive right now. In his case, he's leveled up everywhere he's been. I suspect he would have been a head coach somewhere next season had it not been for the end of season losing streak at TN. Within 2 years at LSU, I expect he will rebound and land as a HC somewhere.
 
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I look forward to every quoted post.. just to watch you derail the threads.


1reVOLver said:
A certain LSU WBB head coach, of notorious fashion choices, recently won a national championship. The same year her team's OOC schedule included a plethora of cupcakes. Why, you ask, did her team win THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP?
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I think were going to see a schedule that will get us at least 11 wins out of the non conference. Were not going to play the tough non conference we played last season. We will still have our games UConn, UCLA, and one other team in that ACC SEC challenge that will be a home game and the rest should be games we can manage to win.
I expect the non conference to be fourteen games this next season and would expect us to be the favorite to win 11 of them. Then in the SEC you go 8 and 8 your 19 and 11 and that three games better gets you back again. I don't expect DW to give up easily as long as she shows a game or two improvement he will stick with her at least the fourth to the fifth season.
 
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Volstylexx said:
I teach this in my college business comm class. It's a "new social contract" that I think @brittannica alluded to earlier. We live in a world of "I owe you nothing" from both an organizational and employee perspective. If we see 2 years of work history that's actually viewed as a positive right now. In his case, he's leveled up everywhere he's been. I suspect he would have been a head coach somewhere next season had it not been for the end of season losing streak at TN. Within 2 years at LSU, I expect he will rebound and land as a HC somewhere.
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This is exactly what I am alluding to! Thank you for stating it so clearly.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I think were going to see a schedule that will get us at least 11 wins out of the non conference. Were not going to play the tough non conference we played last season. We will still have our games UConn, UCLA, and one other team in that ACC SEC challenge that will be a home game and the rest should be games we can manage to win.
I expect the non conference to be fourteen games this next season and would expect us to be the favorite to win 11 of them. Then in the SEC you go 8 and 8 your 19 and 11 and that three games better gets you back again. I don't expect DW to give up easily as long as she shows a game or two improvement he will stick with her at least the fourth to the fifth season.
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I wasn’t focused on the record because we played 5-8 less games than everyone else, 5 cupcakes would have put us over 20 wins, but the season would have ended the same way.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I think were going to see a schedule that will get us at least 11 wins out of the non conference. Were not going to play the tough non conference we played last season. We will still have our games UConn, UCLA, and one other team in that ACC SEC challenge that will be a home game and the rest should be games we can manage to win.
I expect the non conference to be fourteen games this next season and would expect us to be the favorite to win 11 of them. Then in the SEC you go 8 and 8 your 19 and 11 and that three games better gets you back again. I don't expect DW to give up easily as long as she shows a game or two improvement he will stick with her at least the fourth to the fifth season.
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we were much closer to the cut line for the NCAAs this year than most imagined. 7-9 SEC record will end her tenure. 8-8 first round exit will likely end it as well. Anything else, would technically be an improvement and makes firing her harder, although long-term it's pretty obviously she isn't the answer IF winning titles is the goal.
 
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Volstylexx said:
we were much closer to the cut line for the NCAAs this year than most imagined. 7-9 SEC record will end her tenure. 8-8 first round exit will likely end it as well. Anything else, would technically be an improvement and makes firing her harder, although long-term it's pretty obviously she isn't the answer.
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She might get a lot of credit for breaking "the longest losing streak" in LVs history next season. As they say, a coaches first job is managing expectations and not letting them get too high. On that dimension, CKC has excelled.
 
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madtownvol said:
She might get a lot of credit for breaking "the longest losing streak" LVs history next season. As they say, a coaches first job is managing expectations and not letting them get too high. On that dimension, CKC has excelled.
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With the news that TN is going all in on men's basketball, with a possible 15 million dollar roster, I don't think we see any real push to restore the wbb program anytime soon. Stack the season with cupcakes, get to 20 wins and make the post-season and she's here for year 4.
 
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LadyVolsDiehard said:
But no one calls it a red flag for some reason.
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Job mobility is never a red flag when every move is climbing the ladder. Gabe's been on an upward mobility trajectory.

[If anyone thinks that Mulkey's LSU program, is not a move up from Tennessee which was a bubble team, well......]
 
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I’ll pass. Seeing mature age adults use catchphrases like “blow smoke” during dialogue is a sign not to waste a post.

Lucy said:
It makes no sense to me that that is where we are. And yet, here we are.
I really don’t see you generally provide much “substance”. But, feel free to continue to blow smoke wherever.
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LSU got sent home in the Sweet 16.. how did they just miss the Final 4 smh..

madtownvol said:
Job mobility is never a red flag when every move is climbing the ladder. Gabe's been on an upward mobility trajectory.

[If anyone thinks that LSU, who just missed the FF on a buzzer beater, is not a move up from Tennessee which was a bubble team, well......]
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KnoxLikeUs said:
I’ll pass. Seeing mature age adults use catchphrases like “blow smoke” during dialogue is a sign not to waste a post.
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Not sure if you were suggesting that the phrase "blow smoke" is one more attuned to those who are currently of less seasoned years, but (from Gemini):

The phrase "blowing smoke" as a metaphor for deception or obfuscation primarily stems from two distinct historical origins: the literal concealment used in stage magic and a now-obsolete medical practice involving tobacco smoke enemas.

Origins of the Phrase
  • Stage Magic and "Smoke and Mirrors": Historically, magicians used puffs of smoke to hide sleight of hand or mechanical tricks, effectively creating a visual barrier to deceive the audience. This evolved into the figurative sense of using "smoke" (distracting words or false claims) to hide a lack of substance or truth.
  • The Tobacco Enema: In the 18th century, "blowing smoke up one's ass" was a literal medical procedure used to resuscitate drowning victims, based on the belief that the warm nicotine would stimulate the heart. When this was eventually discredited as ineffective, the phrase became a metaphor for making insincere or false claims.

History of Usage

While the medical practice dates back to the 1700s, the figurative slang versions of the phrase emerged much later.
  • Early 20th Century: The basic idiom "to blow smoke" began appearing in slang dictionaries by the 1930s and 1940s, initially meaning to boast or exaggerate.
  • Common Political Usage: The phrase gained significant traction in the mid-1970s. Journalist Jimmy Breslin notably popularized the related term "smoke and mirrors" in 1975 to describe political trickery during the Watergate era.
  • Modern Popularity: Usage continued to rise through the late 20th century, with the Merriam-Webster dictionary tracing its first known use in its modern meaning to 1974.
 
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