Gabe Lazo Out

[volbeast33]

Didn’t know where to put this but I figured I would add it with the coaches responsibility talk from earlier.

 

[chuckiepoo]

That is what has been spoken by many on X and other sites. Whether they know anything who knows? What I kept hearing she has turned it all over to him.

Thank you for transparency.

 

[madtownvol]

No bag is too small.

Hey, I learn stuf from KLU.

I had thought that Uconn's 25 final fours was evidence that they have been a consistently great program. But Knox taught me that they were no where being as elite as the LVs during this run. You see only simple minds who think like 5 year olds, judge success by FFs (and 12 national titles). No, non, a truly great program does not need to win to prove to others that it is great. A truly great program, in fact, does not win in order to demonstrate its "greatness". This season in particular, the 8 game losing streak and the first elimination exuded the kind of self-confidence to lose that only comes from greatness. When you are great as we are and always will be, why should we waste our time and energy winning games? Winning is for losers. And if you can't see that. I am not gonna explain it to all you "small minds" out there.

Or restating matters, I am now completely convinced that KLU is Darth with a new trolling identity cause these post are paradoxical nonsense. I will give that poster major props for effectively adopting an entirely different posting style.

 

[1reVOLver]

For all the KC fanbois, yeah both of them, here's a sneak peek at next year.

 

[madtownvol]

Best thing that could happen for Kim right now is to get turned down by the big recruits. Sounds crazy, i know, but we saw what the most talented team in over a decade did this year. She needs Big O, Cooper and then a group of mid major transfers that don't have the All American labels tied to them. Kids who will grind it out, happily, in her erratic style system. That's how she wins.

Interesting paradox, Kellie could not win because she could not sign enough blue chip players; Caldwell can't win because she signed too many blue chip players.

 

[0311]

And that’s how some individuals have two years of experience after a 20 year career! Semper Fi!

 

[Volfan2012]

That’s a fair point. I don’t think Coach Lazo at LSU will do any more with those players than Coach Ferrara will do with the players at Tennessee.
To me, it’s an even deal. Now Coach Caldwell feels she has a person that fits her philosophy and it will help her moving forward as a coach. This guy is a veteran coach. He has a business-like attitude and is highly respected in basketball circles. I believe Tennessee players will respect that especially the ones returning and incoming it’s the right fit. Both programs get who who they needed to serve as assistant coaches.

Totally agree he was not a great developer as far as I could see none of the Assistants seem to be. The freshmen never got to the point they should have. Mia almost did was really playing at a level until that injury at South Carolina. I can see Ferrara being better than Lazo in development from what I saw this season out of the freshmen.
For me the only scary thing about him has passed for now Edwards not going with him. So I am fine with the guy we have will know more in about three weeks on his recruiting ability.

 

[Volstylexx]

This was not the most talented team in a decade, because it had no shooting talent and making shots is the name of the game.

This team couldn’t shoot a lick.

They lost jewel, Tess, Sara, and Samara, and they didn’t replace any of that shooting.

Thats not a defense of KC because roster construction is her job. But the narrative that we wasted a talented team is not factual IMO.

It's "not factual" is subjective, only because the talent didn't translate to wins. On paper, it was very much the most talented team we've had in a decade. Heralded 5 star recruits, All-Americans, started the season top 10... so I would argue, we indeed did waste a talented team.

You can argue the reason the talent didn't translate - but it's safe to say these kids will likely be successful in other programs. There's plenty of evidence across sports to show where that usually holds true.

 

[volfan102455]

So, Kim Mulkey's assistant coach moves on to be hired as HC at Rutgers. Then Mulkey hires Gabe as her assistant and offers this statement:.



So from reading this board, I now know that this statement really means that Mulkey wanted to sabotage her own program by hiring a "cancer" who offers nothing of value while doing also Kim Caldwell a huge favor.

His movement to LSU was probably in the works - so I am leaning to more of he left on his own verses she let him go.

 

[volfan102455]

That is what has been spoken by many on X and other sites. Whether they know anything who knows? What I kept hearing she has turned it all over to him.

She had never recruited at the D1 level - just took the leftovers at the D11 level with players that were just looking for a place to land and play.

Very different when you are competing for the top players against other top schools.

If she let him handle it, probably because of her lack of experience and relations at the D1 level.

 

[Volfan2012]

It's "not factual" is subjective, only because the talent didn't translate to wins. On paper, it was very much the most talented team we've had in a decade. Heralded 5 star recruits, All-Americans, started the season top 10... so I would argue, we indeed did waste a talented team.

You can argue the reason the talent didn't translate - but it's safe to say these kids will likely be successful in other programs. There's plenty of evidence across sports to show where that usually holds true.

Only thing I can add is their stats were really ugly almost every player. Just two Barker and Cooper had decent lines. Better stats meant more points and more wins. You just don't win shooting 40 percent and if you don't have the talent to do better then I have to judge your talent as inefficient. 40 percent from the field, 67 from the line, 30 from the three equals 16 wins 14 losses and the 16 has to come from some really bad teams if that is your stat line.

 

[Volfan2012]

She had never recruited at the D1 level - just took the leftovers at the D11 level with players that were just looking for a place to land and play.

Very different when you are competing for the top players against other top schools.

If she let him handle it, probably because of her lack of experience and relations at the D1 level.

Exactly what was said.

 

[volfan102455]

Totally agree he was not a great developer as far as I could see none of the Assistants seem to be. The freshmen never got to the point they should have. Mia almost did was really playing at a level until that injury at South Carolina. I can see Ferrara being better than Lazo in development from what I saw this season out of the freshmen.
For me the only scary thing about him has passed for now Edwards not going with him. So I am fine with the guy we have will know more in about three weeks on his recruiting ability.

There was absolutely no development on the team from any coach.

 

[Volstylexx]

That’s a fair point. I don’t think Coach Lazo at LSU will do any more with those players than Coach Ferrara will do with the players at Tennessee.
To me, it’s an even deal. Now Coach Caldwell feels she has a person that fits her philosophy and it will help her moving forward as a coach. This guy is a veteran coach. He has a business-like attitude and is highly respected in basketball circles. I believe Tennessee players will respect that especially the ones returning and incoming it’s the right fit. Both programs get who who they needed to serve as assistant coaches.

Young recruits don't commit to major programs because of the "business like attitude of a highly respected assistant coach" - they commit because of the connection and personality. If Lazo brings the same type of talent to LSU that he was able to bring to TN, you will then see what a veteran coach can do with that talent. I promise you, Kim Mulkey isn't going 16-14 with a bench of All-Americans.

 

[Volfan2012]

There was absolutely no development on the team from any coach.

100 percent the ugly stats were certainly players inefficient play. You expect them to get better as the year goes along they learn things none of our freshmen did. Civil was starting to breakout a little, but no where near her talent level.

 

[spojo13]

So, Kim Mulkey's assistant coach moves on to be hired as HC at Rutgers. Then Mulkey hires Gabe as her assistant and offers this statement:.



So from reading this board, I now know that this statement really means that Mulkey wanted to sabotage her own program by hiring a "cancer" who offers nothing of value while doing also Kim Caldwell a huge favor.

Yeah, Mulkey doesn’t understand that he’s a bad recruiter and developer. She should have asked some of our illustrious board members about him first! I don’t understand the need to bad mouth and name call everyone leaving. I’m not going to actively root for any of them, but I’m not going to trash them on the way out.

 

[volfan102455]

100 percent the ugly stats were certainly players inefficient play. You expect them to get better as the year goes along they learn things none of our freshmen did. Civil was starting to breakout a little, but no where near her talent level.

In this system, do they really get the experience on the floor to even work on getting better?

 

[volfan102455]

Yeah, Mulkey doesn’t understand that he’s a bad recruiter and developer. She should have asked some of our illustrious board members about him first! I don’t understand the need to bad mouth and name call everyone leaving. I’m not going to actively root for any of them, but I’m not going to trash them on the way out.

It is all about focusing the blame elsewhere. Whether is it true or not will be seen.

 

[KnoxLikeUs]

That’s because none of the assistant coaches on this staff at that time including Coach Lazo were natural leaders.. most posters here don’t look beyond the surface when understanding key decisions. Coach Ferrara at FSU has stepped in before in a head coach role when their head coach had to step away to take leave. This guy has a strong presence as a leader. I think this hire will help out Coach Caldwell tremendously, and also give her other assistant Coach Burdette someone she can mirror to gain a perspective from being an offensive minded coach.

Totally agree he was not a great developer as far as I could see none of the Assistants seem to be. The freshmen never got to the point they should have. Mia almost did was really playing at a level until that injury at South Carolina. I can see Ferrara being better than Lazo in development from what I saw this season out of the freshmen.
For me the only scary thing about him has passed for now Edwards not going with him. So I am fine with the guy we have will know more in about three weeks on his recruiting ability.

 

[Volfan2012]

In this system, do they really get the experience on the floor to even work on getting better?

Evidently it hasn't been proven to provide anything sufficient progress in development. JMO never going to work but DW is letting it ride another year so hope for the best.
I hate the five out think every player has to learn a position and develop abilities playing their role on a team. When your freelancing extremely difficult to understand and play your role. All players have different strengths and weaknesses this system say everyone is the same. Post players shoot threes, Players making 20 percent shoot them, no specific plays are run for any particular player. The subbing of confusion all comes together to see what we saw this season.

 

[1reVOLver]

Yeah, Mulkey doesn’t understand that he’s a bad recruiter and developer. She should have asked some of our illustrious board members about him first! I don’t understand the need to bad mouth and name call everyone leaving. I’m not going to actively root for any of them, but I’m not going to trash them on the way out.

Yes.

When an assistant coach goes job hunting he can either chase $$ or try to get to a program with a superior head coach to mentor him/her. Having learned what not to do
from Kim C, Gabe moved on to learn more useful lessons from a person who has won natties with two teams.

 

[Volstylexx]

It is all about focusing the blame elsewhere. Whether is it true or not will be seen.

There's a large section of the TN wbb fanbase that honestly thinks a team of 5 star All-Americans were just horrible players. That an Assistant Coach who was noted as one of the best recruiters in the sport, and rumored for multiple head coaching jobs, was secretly sabotaging the team, that the "system" is so hard to learn that it takes a half a year, when we could see with our own eyes that the "system" was the problem.... SIGH. i mean, it comes a point where you just want to say, "We're going to get what we deserve" and that moment (while it looks different for each of us) is not going to be a good day when it comes to the history of this once proud program. We are nowhere close to rock bottom because we have fans who refuse to open their eyes and see it for what it is.

 

[KnoxLikeUs]

Because Kim Mulkey plays a crap non-conference schedule… man will you please sit down.
All of this stuff you are pushing is definitely going to play itself out. I’ll be here then just like I am now. I’m 100% on board with every change made since the end of the season. I’m 100% confident that Oliviyah Edwards graduates as a Lady Vol. Take her word for it not mine.
GBO.



Fake news… he’s pounding his chest talking about 2ppg-4ppg transfers. There’s no hard look being made. Just a fantasy.

Young recruits don't commit to major programs because of the "business like attitude of a highly respected assistant coach" - they commit because of the connection and personality. If Lazo brings the same type of talent to LSU that he was able to bring to TN, you will then see what a veteran coach can do with that talent. I promise you, Kim Mulkey isn't going 16-14 with a bench of All-Americans.

 

[madtownvol]

There's a large section of the TN wbb fanbase that honestly thinks a team of 5 star All-Americans were just horrible players. That an Assistant Coach who was noted as one of the best recruiters in the sport, and rumored for multiple head coaching jobs, was secretly sabotaging the team, that the "system" is so hard to learn that it takes a half a year, when we could see with our own eyes that the "system" was the problem.... SIGH. i mean, it comes a point where you just want to say, "We're going to get what we deserve" and that moment (while it looks different for each of us) is not going to be a good day when it comes to the history of this once proud program. We are nowhere close to rock bottom because we have fans who refuse to open their eyes and see it for what it is.

Don't get it twisted. This situation has nothing do the fans and whatever rationalizations and justifications get posted on this board. In fact, I would bet if you took a poll season ticket holders, the results would lean strongly to coaching change.

The only relevant player here is the AD Danny White. The social media rumors were very strong that key donors wanted a change. You would think that would have some impact but, it is fairly obvious at this point, that White wants to prove he made the right call and is sticking with CKC.

What will be interesting will be seeing what counts as a "good enough" season for White to give CKC a 4th year.

 

[chuckiepoo]

I really do walk her though. She has a stroller

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