'20 GA ATH Arik Gilbert (LSU commit)

#2,776
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I want speed at WR, absolute speed. Hell, I'll take a few drops but I want speed like the good ole "if we're even, Im leavin" days
 
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#Vol4Life1991 said:
Bama (julio, ridley, cooper)
Miami (moss, johnson, wayne)
Cali (d jackson, marvin jones, K allen)
Osu (Thomas, Ginn, holmes)

To a lesser degree b/c of Washington
Okie st (hill, Bryant, Washington-steelers)
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So... of the list I posted...

- Reed was a #1 WR for Buffalo for several years...
- Henderson was a deep threat for the Saints for a long time
- Clayton was all-world coming out of college and posted one of the better rookie campaigns of his generation, then had a bunch of injuries and faded out...
- Bowe was a multi-Pro Bowl selection
- Byrd was in a horrific car accident before the draft, still got drafted, and never recovered... one of those could have beens...
- Holliday was one of the NFL's most dangerous return men in Denver and set 11 franchise records as a return specialist
- LaFell was a WR2 for several teams in a long career
- Randle was a WR2/3 for the Giants for 4 years
- Landry you've clearly heard of
- ODB you've clearly heard of
- Chark is on fire right now

If we're ranking off recency it doesn't make a lot of sense to list 3 guys from Miami that retired 5 years ago
As far as rankings for current active-in-the-NFL WR trios (that get playing time):
1) Bama: Julio Jones, Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley
2A) Clemson: Deandre Hopkins, Sammy Watkins, Mike Williams
2B) LSU: Odell Beckham Jr, Jarvis Landry, DJ Chark
4) Georgia Tech (makes zero sense lol): Calvin Johnson (yea, retired for a few years, whatever), Demaryius Thomas, Darren Waller
5) California: Keenan Allen, Marvin Jones, Desean Jackson
6) Penn State: Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, DaeSean Hamilton
7) Ohio St: Michael Thomas, Curtis Samuel, Terry McLaurin
8) USC: Juju Smith-Schuster, Robert Woods, Nelson Agholor
9) Texas A&M: Mike Evans, Christian Kirk, Josh Reynolds
10) Georgia: AJ Green, Chris Conley, Mecole Hardman
11) Oklahoma: Marquise Brown, Dede Westbrook, Sterling Shepard (honorable mention for Kenny Stills)
12) South Carolina: Alshon Jeffery, Deebo Samuel, Pharoh Cooper
13) Maryland: DJ Moore, Stefon Diggs, Torrey Smith/DHB kind of together count as a third haha
14) SMU: Emmanuel Sanders, Courtland Sutton, Aldrick Robinson
15) Oklahoma State: Dez Bryant (recently retired), James Washington, Justin Blackmon kind of counts?
16) Notre Dame: Golden Tate, Will Fuller, Miles Boykin
17) Miami: Phillip Dorsett, Allen Hurns, Travis Benjamin


LMK if I missed a decent one... there were several that had a solid 2 but zero chance for a third...

So yea... I'd say LSU has as good of a claim for "WR U" as anybody on the market dude... sorry... you're just not making any sense... they were manufacturing NFL draft pick WRs without even showcasing their skill levels for up until last year, which is a whole other level of weird... also... lol @ Georgia Tech's option offense producing three NFL Pro Bowlers (I can only imagine Waller will get his this year)... that's nuts...

Anyways... not trying to be argumentative... just illustrating how off-base your argument is, especially if you're bringing up recency bias

Edited: forgot Penn State
 
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#Vol4Life1991 said:
Bama (julio, ridley, cooper)
Miami (moss, johnson, wayne)
Cali (d jackson, marvin jones, K allen)
Osu (Thomas, Ginn, holmes)

To a lesser degree b/c of Washington
Okie st (hill, Bryant, Washington-steelers)
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Your Miami example is a bit of a stretch given that all three of those guys were drafted in the early 2000s (a fact you pissed on in an earlier post regarding the LSU examples given from a similar time period).
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#Vol4Life1991 said:
These highs school kids don't give a damn about pre-2010 let alone 2002. The premise of this topic was what has these schools produced lately in terms of nfl talent. You can always go back 20/30/40 years to validate a moot point.
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Your OSU example is silly considering you crapped on Devery Henderson and Brandon LaFell. Why don't you compare their stats to Ginn and Holmes. Even with Thomas, who may be the best current WR in the league, as a group, they are nowhere near the LSU trio by comparison.

Alabama and Cal are your two best attempts and I'd still give it OBJ, Landry, and Bowe. All three of those guys have made a Pro-Bowl. Can't say that about either the Bama or Cal trio.

But, even if we call it even between the 3 teams, then you can name two similar examples out of 120 D1 teams over a 10 year period. Think about that for a minute.
 
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PoweredByTheT said:
So... of the list I posted...

- Reed was a #1 WR for Buffalo for several years...
- Henderson was a deep threat for the Saints for a long time
- Clayton was all-world coming out of college and posted one of the better rookie campaigns of his generation, then had a bunch of injuries and faded out...
- Bowe was a multi-Pro Bowl selection
- Byrd was in a horrific car accident before the draft, still got drafted, and never recovered... one of those could have beens...
- Holliday was one of the NFL's most dangerous return men in Denver and set 11 franchise records as a return specialist
- LaFell was a WR2 for several teams in a long career
- Randle was a WR2/3 for the Giants for 4 years
- Landry you've clearly heard of
- ODB you've clearly heard of
- Chark is on fire right now

If we're ranking off recency it doesn't make a lot of sense to list 3 guys from Miami that retired 5 years ago
As far as rankings for current active-in-the-NFL WR trios (that get playing time):
1) Bama: Julio Jones, Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley
2A) Clemson: Deandre Hopkins, Sammy Watkins, Mike Williams
2B) LSU: Odell Beckham Jr, Jarvis Landry, DJ Chark
4) Georgia Tech (makes zero sense lol): Calvin Johnson (yea, retired for a few years, whatever), Demaryius Thomas, Darren Waller
5) California: Keenan Allen, Marvin Jones, Desean Jackson
6) Penn State: Chris Godwin, Allen Robinson, DaeSean Hamilton
7) Ohio St: Michael Thomas, Curtis Samuel, Terry McLaurin
8) USC: Juju Smith-Schuster, Robert Woods, Nelson Agholor
9) Texas A&M: Mike Evans, Christian Kirk, Josh Reynolds
10) Georgia: AJ Green, Chris Conley, Mecole Hardman
11) Oklahoma: Marquise Brown, Dede Westbrook, Sterling Shepard (honorable mention for Kenny Stills)
12) South Carolina: Alshon Jeffery, Deebo Samuel, Pharoh Cooper
13) Maryland: DJ Moore, Stefon Diggs, Torrey Smith/DHB kind of together count as a third haha
14) SMU: Emmanuel Sanders, Courtland Sutton, Aldrick Robinson
15) Oklahoma State: Dez Bryant (recently retired), James Washington, Justin Blackmon kind of counts?
16) Notre Dame: Golden Tate, Will Fuller, Miles Boykin
17) Miami: Phillip Dorsett, Allen Hurns, Travis Benjamin


LMK if I missed a decent one... there were several that had a solid 2 but zero chance for a third...

So yea... I'd say LSU has as good of a claim for "WR U" as anybody on the market dude... sorry... you're just not making any sense... they were manufacturing NFL draft pick WRs without even showcasing their skill levels for up until last year, which is a whole other level of weird... also... lol @ Georgia Tech's option offense producing three NFL Pro Bowlers (I can only imagine Waller will get his this year)... that's nuts...

Anyways... not trying to be argumentative... just illustrating how off-base your argument is, especially if you're bringing up recency bias

Edited: forgot Penn State
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Solid research.
 
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#2,789
I'm proud of us for letting this thread die when it should have, and not creating any ridiculous rumors to get our hopes up.

Good job everyone.
 
#2,790
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I would say the OC in waiting, Ensminger has a good head on his shoulders as well, never really wanted to be the OC but has done a solid job. Deal is supposedly done.
 
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