Fulmer is proud of the University

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utvolpj said:
Sorry but he just needs to quit talking. He's done enough the past few years to damage the program
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I disagree. Fulmer is on the Mount Rushmore of Tennessee coaches. His perspective counts more than most…and certainly more than any comment on this site.

Plus, he played at UT.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Let’s say he takes your advice. If someone asks him to comment on the situation and he responds, “no comment,” how do you think that comes off? You’d be pissed that he threw Heupel under the bus.

Aside from the 152 wins he had, there is no winning for Fulmer with some. The guy devoted most of a 50 year chunk of his life to the program and delivered the only national championship you will ever see. I think he earned the right to comment if asked a question about it.
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I agree! The man made a mistake with Pruitt. But I bet all of us on here did too!! Let's not crucify him but celebrate what his accomplishments were. He was no Donnie Tindell
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Let’s say he takes your advice. If someone asks him to comment on the situation and he responds, “no comment,” how do you think that comes off? You’d be pissed that he threw Heupel under the bus.

Aside from the 152 wins he had, there is no winning for Fulmer with some. The guy devoted most of a 50 year chunk of his life to the program and delivered the only national championship you will ever see. I think he earned the right to comment if asked a question about it.
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And he wore the Orange as a player.

It’s funny how a poster who likely never wore the Orange as a football player or coach…feels entitled to make comments on here about Vol football…but criticizes Fulmer for doing the same.

Seems bass ackward to me.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Of course Fulmer has done more than ANYONE in this forum. He has also been paid exponentially more than anyone in this forum by the university. How much did probation cost the University?

Yes. In public he shouldn't be talking about Tennessee football
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Sorry, but this is just ridiculous.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
He should be as low profile as possible around there. That doesn't mean he shouldn't attend sporting events. I'm curious as to why you think it's appropriate
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He coached and played at the school. And served as the AD (very poorly). As a result, he has more perspective than anyone alive.

He can say whatever he pleases IMO.
 
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utvolpj said:
He's also done more to damage the program than I could ever do. See how that works?

Hopefully the OP is getting a share of that sweet buyout money
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The funny thing is that we’d have been fine if we kept him. He’d hired Dave Clausen and was in the process of modernizing the offense. 2008 was ugly but probably wouldn’t have been the new norm under Fulmer like it ended up being for the next 13 years
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
That was one of the most head scratching 2 years of his career. 2004 might have been his best coaching job ever. All kinds of reasons we should have been primed for another national championship in the next few years. Then came the next year. 2005 was undoubtedly his worst coaching job. 2008 right up there with it. Thank Goodness Cut was here in 2006-2007. Should have been proactive and announced a retirement so a firing wasn't necessary. Probably would have deterred a lot of unnecessary division. Yes, no doubt he loves UT, but certainly loves himself more
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Hamilton was the bigger idiot with the way Fulmer was handled. Then the Kiffin hire which had no protection whatsoever in the contract for Tennessee. Also basically told Gary Patterson to get F’ed in that hiring when it went down. Then when Kiffin bailed we were stupid enough allow Hamilton to hire another coach. I say we but everything was approved or turned down by Haslam. That was a long period of absolute incompetence from the top down and the top was always Haslam influencing all the major decisions.

Anderson and Fulmer kind of pulled a coup when Fulmer was inserted as AD. And yeah Fulmer sucked as AD but I’m not sure we ever get rid of the Haslam influence if not for Anderson and him. I’m not sure if we ever have people get serious enough to hire White either. Fulmer as AD was the absolute train wreck that caused the university to actually address the problem and install decent leadership at the top. Funny how now that Haslam isn’t as involved with decision making everything has gotten better. And to be fair the Haslam’s have done a lot for the university and the football program through the years.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
He should be as low profile as possible around there. That doesn't mean he shouldn't attend sporting events. I'm curious as to why you think it's appropriate
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Randy, Donde, Danny and Josh all feel its appropriate and invite him to be there and speak anytime.

PS: they welcome him representing the university at any time as well.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
As quoted in the article below:


Former coach Phillip Fulmer is “proud of the stance we took as a university “. He should know. There were a few QB controversies he was involved in but he always seemed to pick the right QB to lead us.

www.knoxnews.com

How Phillip Fulmer would handle Tennessee quarterbacks Joey Aguilar, Jake Merklinger

Phillip Fulmer leaned on Peyton Manning, Casey Clausen and Erik Ainge as new quarterbacks. Here's his advice for Tennessee's current QB situation.
www.knoxnews.com

He also leaned on some greats that were freshman that turned out to be stellar for us!
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I'd read the article, but I'm afraid that gas station sushi I had for lunch will come back up.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Hamilton was the bigger idiot with the way Fulmer was handled. Then the Kiffin hire which had no protection whatsoever in the contract for Tennessee. Also basically told Gary Patterson to get F’ed in that hiring when it went down. Then when Kiffin bailed we were stupid enough allow Hamilton to hire another coach. I say we but everything was approved or turned down by Haslam. That was a long period of absolute incompetence from the top down and the top was always Haslam influencing all the major decisions.

Anderson and Fulmer kind of pulled a coup when Fulmer was inserted as AD. And yeah Fulmer sucked as AD but I’m not sure we ever get rid of the Haslam influence if not for Anderson and him. I’m not sure if we ever have people get serious enough to hire White either. Fulmer as AD was the absolute train wreck that caused the university to actually address the problem and install decent leadership at the top. Funny how now that Haslam isn’t as involved with decision making everything has gotten better. And to be fair the Haslam’s have done a lot for the university and the football program through the years.
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Anderson lost his influence when he pushed for Pruitt hire. FYI... Haslam's are back in the saddle... IMO

Now they all maintain some sort of influence as long as their dollars continue to flow. But they don't either have the sway they once did.. I'm not sure there is a single voice among them now that had the sway that Jim Haslam had 15-20 years ago.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Anderson lost his influence when he pushed for Pruitt hire. FYI... Haslam's are back in the saddle... IMO

Now they all maintain some sort of influence as long as their dollars continue to flow. But they don't either have the sway they once did.. I'm not sure there is a single voice among them now that had the sway that Jim Haslam had 15-20 years ago.
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Yeah always heard Fulmer wanted to go in a different direction in that hire.
 
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lilesrt said:
His decisions were not intentionally destructive. They didn’t work out and I’m glad he’s no longer AD, but he loves the University. Give him some slack.
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Great O-Line coach, Great HC as long as Cutcliffe was there leading from the side. Went out on a slide sans Cutcliffe and was an accidental AD that just worsened the end of what was a good start in a career. Like you I think he still loves UT he gave his all but was just not a great HC without the right ppl around him and UT gave so much to him so I can see why he loves UT. He never was highly sought after at the end by other teams that says a lot IMO.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Of course Fulmer has done more than ANYONE in this forum. He has also been paid exponentially more than anyone in this forum by the university. How much did probation cost the University?

Yes. In public he shouldn't be talking about Tennessee football
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You shouldn’t talk sports in public either given your takes, but I don’t clamor in every thread to have you banned.

You would absolutely be outraged if a reporter called Fulmer up and asked for a comment on the Nico situation if he responded, “no comment.” You’d be screaming and crying about how he threw Heupel and the program under the bus.

The probation didn’t cost much since we got to get out of an 8 figure buyout for a horrible coach who you no doubt defended vociferously, and it pales in comparison to the money Fulmer helped generate winning conference titles as a player, assistant, and head coach. We are talking hundreds of millions there. Also he was the guy who locked Rick Barnes in when he almost went to UCLA, so even his stint as AD was not a total failure to the point that he should be exiled and given a gag order.
 
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LWSVOL said:
the offense was really good when Fulmer was in charge of it 1989-1992... he stayed involved in 1993 as David transitioned into OC duties. Not trying to change your mind, just stating facts...
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Johnny never really got things going consistently until he gave Fulmer the OC job. That gets forgotten by many.
 
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NATHAN05 said:
Love me some Fulmer, especially being an 80's-90's kid growing up on UT football..........but truth be told, I think Cutcliffe was truly the offensive mastermind and a great QB developer. There was a considerable dropoff when he left for Ole Miss.
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Yep, Cut was the best OC for UT, but who was smart enough to put him in that position TWICE. CPF did great things and made 2 horrible decisions that appropriately ended his 2 different stints, but I will ride with Cut, Al, Peyton and others who continue to appreciate him for his BODY OF WORK. I will also continue to devalue statements by those arrogant folk who feel compelled to share their BRILLIANCE in snarky tirades.
 
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