Frustrated but we should not give up on Heupel

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Voltrapnbama said:
I get the love for Joey but there have been several bright spots from kids other than qb1. Hood has balled out, Brazzel has been great, Staley has done a good job. They are glaring holes but there have been some great plays from kids on that team other than Joey. Matthews has even helped him out a lot. Give the credit where it’s due if we are doing that
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WR core has four great. Agree with the above.
 
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Volador said:
Oh to be so old and yet not so wise. Do you really need a lesson how coaches continually put our players in positions they shouldn't be in? Give you one good example, since you brought it up. Let's add on 5 yards to our FG attempt against GA. You really, really, really want to blame that on the team?? Of course not, cuz you know exactly who mismanaged the clock, don't you??
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Einstein did the coach jump offsides?
 
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vols40 said:
Einstein did the coach jump offsides?
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Was the play called the correct play against the defense we lined up against? Was JA given the opportunity to change the play at the line of scrimmage, thereby evenly distributing the # of blockers against their rush defense or possible blitz look? Linemen often jump the snap when they realize that they are going to be outnumbered. Just sayin', that the actions of the players can often be directly attributable to the coaching staff.

Mr. Einstein
 
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Volador said:
Was the play called the correct play against the defense we lined up against? Was JA given the opportunity to change the play at the line of scrimmage, thereby evenly distributing the # of blockers against their rush defense or possible blitz look? Linemen often jump the snap when they realize that they are going to be outnumbered. Just sayin', that the actions of the players can often be directly attributable to the coaching staff.

Mrs. Einstein
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FYP

When are offensive lineman coached to jump before the ball is snapped?
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
WOW! Heupel is standing on the sideline, calling a play, he isn't actually on the field. The guys on the field are the ones making the mistakes. A missed field goal caused the loss against Georgia, an interception returned for a touchdown by Alabama, three turnovers against Oklahoma that they got points off of. The defense has missed a lot of tackles that turned into big gainers. Key players being injured and replaced with guys who are fresh out of high school.

If Tennessee doesn't make those mistakes, they very easily could be undefeated and ranked in the top 5.
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Yes, if you made any team’s losses become wins, they’d be undefeated. And coaches haven’t played for teams in over 100 years, so “the coach didn’t miss any tackles” has not been a valid point in at least that amount of time.

We should not fire Heupel, but we all know the guy isn’t winning anything of note here. We have seen enough. He is actually a net negative for his team on Saturdays. You can’t win championships with a guy like that.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Yes, if you made any team’s losses become wins, they’d be undefeated. And coaches haven’t played for teams in over 100 years, so “the coach didn’t miss any tackles” has not been a valid point in at least that amount of time.

We should not fire Heupel, but we all know the guy isn’t winning anything of note here. We have seen enough. He is actually a net negative for his team on Saturdays. You can’t win championships with a guy like that.
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Well BYE
 
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He keeps on ****ing off winnable games. I was ok with him getting stomped by UGA. But now that we are starting to get comparable talent, his coaching deficiencies are coming to light. Firing him is wild, but blind belief in his ability to win big games is wilder. Need to see improvement in him directly. He's the leader. He's the guy. He gets the credit and he gets the blame. All of our wins in year 5 are against nobody's. Every one of them. And we are directly losing because of his coaching malpractice.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
WOW! Heupel is standing on the sideline, calling a play, he isn't actually on the field. The guys on the field are the ones making the mistakes. A missed field goal caused the loss against Georgia, an interception returned for a touchdown by Alabama, three turnovers against Oklahoma that they got points off of. The defense has missed a lot of tackles that turned into big gainers. Key players being injured and replaced with guys who are fresh out of high school.

If Tennessee doesn't make those mistakes, they very easily could be undefeated and ranked in the top 5.
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Excellent summary of “ how we got here”. Thank you. I’m remaining positive on our head coach for next season. Let’s put all the “ fire Heup” talk away, support our team for the upcoming games and get back to enjoying college football…!!! 😎
 
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Cartervol said:
Yeah people need to pipe down. I think the whole dark mode BS made the loss worse. Get rid of that gimmick trash and just play ball.
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I agree 💯!!!!!! And those stupid hype videos. Most of the folks on here thought dark mode was going to help us dominate Oklahoma, all it did was make it to where other fan bases can get a good laugh about us. Just a gimmick!
 
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All Heupel needs is a decent defense, especially in the secondary. Get rid of Martinez, hire a coach who knows how to teach DBs, safeties,a nd CBs in general.
 
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vols40 said:
FYP

When are offensive lineman coached to jump before the ball is snapped?
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So, you never played offensive line I gather? Say for example you are the left guard and you know that the center is pulling to his left on the play called. You have a defensive tackle in front of you and the defense brings a linebacker up over center. You, as the left guard, now have two people to block, so if you don't think that you are going to be quick on the count, your nuts. The left guard was not COACHED to jump offsides but, in the interest of saving his QB and running backs from a sack and loss of yards, he might, just might try to beat the snap by a split second. Heck, you see this on almost every play in the NFL nowadays where the tackles move backwards at or slightly ahead of the snap to thwart off defensive ends with lightning speed.

Good coaches, and there are a handful of them, anticipate what the D is going to do and therefore allows the O players to play within themselves.

More people on VN are coming to accept the fact that the offensive play calling is really hurting us. Just sayin'
 
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Volador said:
So, you never played offensive line I gather? Say for example you are the left guard and you know that the center is pulling to his left on the play called. You have a defensive tackle in front of you and the defense brings a linebacker up over center. You, as the left guard, now have two people to block, so if you don't think that you are going to be quick on the count, your nuts. The left guard was not COACHED to jump offsides but, in the interest of saving his QB and running backs from a sack and loss of yards, he might, just might try to beat the snap by a split second. Heck, you see this on almost every play in the NFL nowadays where the tackles move backwards at or slightly ahead of the snap to thwart off defensive ends with lightning speed.

Good coaches, and there are a handful of them, anticipate what the D is going to do and therefore allows the O players to play within themselves.

More people on VN are coming to accept the fact that the offensive play calling is really hurting us. Just sayin'
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Blah blah blah blah blah. Still moved before the snap and that isn't on the coach.

And another thing it isn't like Gilbert didn't have the leg for that kick if he'd had the distance straight on that kick that is equal to how much he missed it by that kick may be good from 55. Stop with the excuses and blaming everyone except who is actually at fault.
 
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lukeneyland said:
We’re a couple plays from being 8-1. Heupel has done a great job putting us in positions to win.
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But he can't coach players to stop jumping offsides, keep QB's from throwing I'll advised Ints, coach true freshman coming off a half season battle with injury to block the right person, and the FG kicker to quit missing clutch kicks. FAR'EM
 
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vols40 said:
Blah blah blah blah blah. Still moved before the snap and that isn't on the coach.

And another thing it isn't like Gilbert didn't have the leg for that kick if he'd had the distance straight on that kick that is equal to how much he missed it by that kick may be good from 55. Stop with the excuses and blaming everyone except who is actually at fault.
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Wow. I really do look like Einstein compared to your rhetoric. Thank you! :)
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Don't get me wrong. I am absolutely flabbergasted with Heupel this year and think this is his worst coaching job in the 5 seasons he's had, but I'm not calling for his ouster. He easily gets 7 seasons here at minimum.
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Yeah calling for “farring” right now is ridiculous but criticism is not!!! CJH deserves the constructive criticism and HE has a chance to get better, and make staff and team better too, but he’s running out of time! Two more years is legit.

Coaches in their 40’s aren’t changing their philosophies, management, and game behaviors much fwiw….

Personally I checked out on him in September! I’ve seen enough slop already.
 
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vols40 said:
You may look like Einstein but you sound like Arnold Horseshack
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It's all about knowledge of the game, for one cannot take such limiting perspectives and always cry at the obvious. An alcoholic's problem is not alcohol, and if a 16 year old boy takes his mom's car out without her knowledge and permission and wrecks the car, who is responsible? There's an obvious answer and, one that requires use of your frontal lobe. Try it - you'll like it!!!!!
 
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Volador said:
It's all about knowledge of the game, for one cannot take such limiting perspectives and always cry at the obvious. An alcoholic's problem is not alcohol, and if a 16 year old boy takes his mom's car out without her knowledge and permission and wrecks the car, who is responsible? There's an obvious answer and, one that requires use of your frontal lobe. Try it - you'll like it!!!!!
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Try Vandy
 
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Volador said:
So, you never played offensive line I gather? Say for example you are the left guard and you know that the center is pulling to his left on the play called. You have a defensive tackle in front of you and the defense brings a linebacker up over center. You, as the left guard, now have two people to block, so if you don't think that you are going to be quick on the count, your nuts. The left guard was not COACHED to jump offsides but, in the interest of saving his QB and running backs from a sack and loss of yards, he might, just might try to beat the snap by a split second. Heck, you see this on almost every play in the NFL nowadays where the tackles move backwards at or slightly ahead of the snap to thwart off defensive ends with lightning speed.

Good coaches, and there are a handful of them, anticipate what the D is going to do and therefore allows the O players to play within themselves.

More people on VN are coming to accept the fact that the offensive play calling is really hurting us. Just sayin'
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If we have one of the highest scoring percentages and points per game, how is the offensive play calling hurting us? Make it make sense. Aguilar got too greedy and a freshmen o-lineman had to go against honestly the most underrated d-lineman in the nation!
 
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