Foster Needs To Be Benched

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UT IE 95 said:
I'm waivering between classifying this post as clueless vs. classless. Either amply describes it.
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you are a piece of work. as much as I would like to begin an insult fest with you, this time I'll refrain. I would like to hear how you've decided to defend Phil's part in the inept bumbling excuse for an sec football team that we have.
 
#110
#110
I say let AF do 90% of the mid-field work(where he's best). Then when we get on the 10 let Hardesty run it. He at least runs like he wants the football. Thats not to say we'll get in the endzone, that would be asking tooo much. But he does run harder.
 
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#111
I was actually going to read this thread and move on, but there are a couple of things I'd like to address.

I know how many Vol fans feel about Arian's abilities, his starting position and worth to the team, so I won't say anything on that topic. What could be left to say on this is beyond me since it's been debated ad nauseum. Bottom line: You feel how you feel. Nothing anyone can do about that. Me or Arian.

I will say that the penalty shouldn't have happened. It should've been either a no call or off setting. If you look at those pictures of it, the one thing that is really striking to me is this. In all but the last picture, look at how the the Florida players are standing around Arian, looking straight at him. All of them are just inches from him. They have him circled and they are standing very close. If a ref can throw the flag on excessive celebration as taunting the other players, tell me how this is not taunting. Just the fact that they've got him cornered with no other Vols around as he's trying to get up should be enough. But as they stand there trying to taunt him, what you don't see is how they held him down on the ground as he tried to get up. And the ref is right there watching it all but he waited for Arian to get them off him before he throws a flag. I don't care who you are or how you feel about Arian, you cannot possibly think that that call was not wrong. Should Arian not do anything? Cower and walk back to the huddle defeated and beaten? Sorry, ain't gonna happen. Plus, you also don't know what was said to these guys before this game. And I will leave it at that.

As for your opinion that Arian was in Fulmers face, let me tell you, he wasn't. He was pissed. Fulmer asked him what happened and he was explaining what happened. He was animated yes, but NOT in Fulmer's face. HAD HE BEEN, I WOULD'VE BEEN THE FIRST TO SUGGEST BENCHING HIM. If you see the replay on that, you will see Arian making motions with his hands showing how they were holding him down and how he threw his arm up to get that one guy off of him as the other four were standing there just daring him to do something. Fulmer was not pissed at Arian for his explanation but he was mad that there was a penalty, which is why he took him out. But he put him back in because if you hear the story, if someone sees the replay, you know what you've said to your players to get them pumped for this game....then you know it isn't all on Arian. Period.

You can think all you want that Arian is a ME first guy rather than a team player, but you'd be wrong. I don't expect you to believe that coming from me and frankly, I don't care. But the logic used to come to that deduction is wrong. First of all, that "Self Made" tatoo doesn't have one thing to do with playing football. I don't expect you to know that but geez, just making general assumptions based on what you think you know or what you think you see, is ignorant at best unless you're sure of all the facts. You cannot be, in this instance, because you don't have all the info. My hope is you'll be open to some of the correct info, but I won't bet the farm on it.

As for the sweeps, I agree with you. Against Florida, Arian should not be running sweeps. But those were the plays called, so what would you have him do? Getting the ball to your playmakers is a good philosophy, but if you don't play to your players' strengths, then it kinda kills the philosophy, wouldn't you agree? NOBODY ever said Arian was a barn burner. But there are some things he does very very well. So why not utilize him in the areas that he's good at?

I realize with the level of frustration that fans are feeling about this team's performance that many people just need somewhere to point the aggression at. Fair enough. I talked to Arian about that at length this last weekend. He understands that people need a focal point for their frustration. He understands the fact that he, Coach Fulmer and Jon Crompton will be catching the brunt of that. He said God blessed him with broad shoulders and he will handle it. I also realize that many fans really feel that Arian is not the proper choice to start. I don't make those decisions so I have no answer for that other than I think Arian's earned it. He has made some mistakes, but he still gets up and keeps on giving it his all every day. We all do that don't we? What else can we do? What else can Arian do? Coach Fulmer? Jon?
 
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#112
I agree about that particular penalty and play. AF did what I would have done.

What I would not have done is have tattoos on my arm about which someone could assume something and then gripe when they assumed the worst.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I agree about that particular penalty and play. AF did what I would have done.

What I would not have done is have tattoos on my arm about which someone could assume something and then gripe when they assumed the worst.
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Fair enough, but Arian ain't griping. Really I'm not either. The griping has come from other places. Each of his tatoos means something personal to HIM about his experiences in LIFE. Which is why they are on HIS body. Everything is fair game, I suppose. But some of the stuff is reaching.
 
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#114
I agree the penalty was nothing short of shocking and definately thanks for coming on here and posting giving us that inside voice...Thanks Fostermom
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I agree about that particular penalty and play. AF did what I would have done.

What I would not have done is have tattoos on my arm about which someone could assume something and then gripe when they assumed the worst.
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I agree with you on your first point. On your second point, I plead the fifth.
 
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#116
In all but the last picture, look at how the the Florida players are standing around Arian, looking straight at him. All of them are just inches from him. They have him circled and they are standing very close.
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seriously?

Plus, you also don't know what was said to these guys before this game. And I will leave it at that.
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whatever it was it didint stop UF from routing us, again.

He said God blessed him with broad shoulders and he will handle it.
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same thing Phil said, but how does that make anyone feel better about getting beat down again?

he still gets up and keeps on giving it his all every day.
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One thing I will say is that I have never questioned his heart or his dedication. nevertheless, I think he made a mistake in striking the Florida player and the team paid for it. yes the ref made a bad call, but if Arian doesnt react that way, the ref doesnt have the chance to blow it.
 
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One thing I will say is that I have never questioned his heart or his dedication. nevertheless, I think he made a mistake in striking the Florida player and the team paid for it. yes the ref made a bad call, but if Arian doesnt react that way, the ref doesnt have the chance to blow it.
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This had NOTHING to do with us losing the game...By the way it is over and we must move on so why do we not try it...I hate it as much as the next person believe me but I can no do anything about it and bitching does nothing...Absolutely nothing...We play again this weekend and we need to back these kids
 
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fostermom said:
Fair enough, but Arian ain't griping. Really I'm not either. The griping has come from other places. Each of his tatoos means something personal to HIM about his experiences in LIFE. Which is why they are on HIS body. Everything is fair game, I suppose. But some of the stuff is reaching.
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I don't doubt that's true, but some of it comes with the territory.
 
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vader said:
I was referring to my Vader tat. Also, I didn't realize we met at the Florida game.
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well hell, I'd assume the worst about that one too. Guy rolls up on me with Dark Helmet on him and all I can think is Spaceballs "Smoke 'em if you got 'em"
 
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G0V0LS33 said:
This had NOTHING to do with us losing the game...By the way it is over and we must move on so why do we not try it...I hate it as much as the next person believe me but I can no do anything about it and bitching does nothing...Absolutely nothing...We play again this weekend and try to with it
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I think it was a single play, but one that did hurt the team, period. there is no one play that cost us the game, but do you want your senior leader making such a costly mistake? He has been very successful in his time on the Hill and I appreciate it, but I was disappointed in his actions.
 
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