For you pantywads worrying about NIL

#52
#52
GoodlettsvilleVol said:
I find the opening thesis from the OP to be obnoxious and insulting.
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Bad thing is I run into these self called know it all’s a lot. There will still be rules that can be broke. It might just come down from inside disgruntled employee tell all after the fact but you still have rules. I’m sure most won’t get caught until the wrong team starts winning.
It’s not like you’re buying & bidding for indentured servants. There’s NIL laws in every State so it’s going to be a mess. There will be sleazy guys repping a player for a cut of say autograph sessions etc.. it’s gonna take a few years before we know which way this goes but it’s gonna be a bumpy ride IMO.
 
#53
#53
Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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Absolutely wrong on #5. Sure money has alway been changing hands. But the NIL has changed the scene entirely. Yes it’s legal but the amounts are far more than were handed out before. And the richest schools will benefit. It is a wide open bidding war now. If you don’t understand that, you are dreaming or woefully naive.
 
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#54
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I don't buy all of "UT doesn't have the $ stuff." We obviously had the dough to secure a lot of top talent. Gray, Chandler, Toto, etc. We bemoaned the fact we lost all this top talent this year. It was said that all the guys that got paid left. So we can now spend that money on the up and up. Nolen said he would be at Tennessee if it were only for the NIL. We've bought great players in the past and we will be able to continue to do so going forward. The sky isn't falling.
 
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Iravolfan said:
I disagree. Some teams have more money than others. Just like Walter Nolen going to A & M. I’m pretty sure Georgia didn’t want Jamal Lewis, they chose Jasper Sanks, which was a bust. College Football is now the NFL. I don’t think it’s a good thing
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They had Hines Ward, Robert Edwards, and Olandis Gary on the roster when Jamal was a freshman. He timed it perfect taking over from Jay Graham.
 
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#58
People who don't believe players were getting huge sums before apparently forget Albert Means was getting 250k from Bama 25 years ago. Bill Walton said UCLA players almost all stayed 4 years because they had to take a pay cut when they moved to the NBA. Chris Webber got nearly 700,000 dollars to go to Michigan nearly 30 years ago. Reggie Bush was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars. The Miami yacht party guy was spending 6 figures a month on players. Kentucky had a robust payment program in place all the way back to Rupp.
 
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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This post is beyond foolish. If you don’t think NIL has completely changed the landscape of college football then you are blind. Yes it will likely end up hurting us. Why? Because of what has happened to us over the past 15 years or so.
 
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#63
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VFL-82-JP said:
Now, this...THIS is how you build agreement with your viewpoint! Marvelously done.

1. Right up front, call anyone who doesn't agree with you a "pantywad." Before they even open the thread. Gotta be sure there is no doubt how you feel about them.

2. Tell everyone who clicks on the thread and starts reading your post, maybe even folks who might've agreed with you, that they have a car key in their ear (whatever that means).

3. Present your argument.

4. Conclude by recommending that readers (who are on a forum created to discuss issues surrounding Tennessee football) stop discussing NIL, that they just "drop it."

Brilliant, sir. Simply brilliant. You're gonna win them all over, I predict.
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Fighting fire with fire, imo.
 
#64
#64
I'm ok with paying the players, how about $17.50 an hour. Deduct taxes and insurance. Time and a half for bowl games, double time for playoff games. No more.
 
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Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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Sure thing sparky.....

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#67
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Some of the comments sound like actual panty wads. This is one thing wrong with the modern world. Everyone is too damn sensitive.

As far as the OP's point, he is mostly right, IMO. Players have been getting paid forever.

Besides that, the kids work their asses off to be some of the best athletes in the world and still make good enough grades to stay enrolled in school.

I say pay them more. Why the Hell not? I work for a living, and the goal has always been to make more money.
 
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#68
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UTwild82 said:
Pantywad is our word. Please use the more appropriate and politically correct term undergarment bundle. Your micro-aggression is NOT appreciated. Please educate yourself.
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Or we could say they have vaginal granulitis, AKA sand in their youknowwhat. ;)
 
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At what point does the NIL deal become a bigger focus than playing football ? Perhaps it ends up like a lot of pro teams with lazy, sullen, spoiled, me first attitudes? In the end, the GAME will suffer.
 
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#71
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OrangeVolMan said:
NIL along with the new non sit out transfer rule is creating free agency. This is the reason I stopped watching baseball. College football used to be about locality and disliking your rivals. If a player transfers from UT to Alabama, for example, they never really cared about UT. In addition, Whether we like it or not, the purpose of college football was giving scholarships to students representing our university who might not go to college otherwise. Why do I want to donate money to help pay for a scholarship for a player who may be making more money than I am.
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There used to be a sport called NASCAR … anyone remember that ? A bunch of guys who loved driving hot rod cars ? The loyalty that has driven college sports, from the players to the fans, well that foundation continues to erode. The current product is what we have been feeding for the past 40-50 years and this is what it’s grown to be. Like it or not.
 
#73
#73
Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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Dumbest post ever. Nothing to see here. All is well!
 
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#74
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I just want to let everyone know, I have never carried my car keys in either of my ears
At least he did not say get the car key out of your butt
 
#75
#75
Hulavol said:
I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.
All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.
This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.
3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.
4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.
5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).
In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.
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