For you pantywads worrying about NIL

[TitanicVolz]

Wait til one of these"Millionaire"kids end up killing a family in their Porsche or some other wild story u can think of.Youll have all the attention u want and more,giving kids who most haven't had anything half a mill or anything like that is just Ludacris to me.I just think we're gonna have a big situation on our hands and it's gonna take something ridiculous to really bring any attention to it.NCAA really effed this one up from the start.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Wait til one of these"Millionaire"kids end up killing a family in their Porsche or some other wild story u can think of.Youll have all the attention u want and more,giving kids who most haven't had anything half a mill or anything like that is just Ludacris to me.I just think we're gonna have a big situation on our hands and it's gonna take something ridiculous to really bring any attention to it.NCAA really effed this one up from the start.

Isn't it just disgusting how the American Free Enterprise system works where people can get paid for unique talents?

Awful, I tell you, that someone I consider "too unprepared" should make money.

 

[Fullfillmer]

A correlation is one thing but people are trying to infer that the standard institutional endowments contributes directly to NIL. I have not heard seen or read anywhere where that is the case.

I don't think that is what anyone is saying or has ever been saying. Most people are smart enough to understand that the institutions are not contributing to NIL deals.

 

[Tennman]

I’m gonna say this one time:
Get the car key out of your ear and pay attention.
NIL is GOOD for football. It is not ruining it, putting UT at any kind of disadvantage or anything else.

All NIL (and functioning exactly as it should)- is doing is exactly what it is intended to do: making the paying of players legal and in the open.

This is important (beneficial) for many reasons:
1- It allows the NCAA to function without having to waste millions of dollars trying to investigate and prosecute cases where every school and sport in the nation breaks the rules.
2- It makes the paying of players legal so that the kid actually gets what he is promised, the payer can run the money through payroll, and neither party is breaking any laws. This is very important for those handing out the cash and for those taking it.

3- The coaches and institutions no longer have to deal with the seediness and hypocrisy of having “plausible deniability.” Not to mention the time it takes to teach kids how to hide money and not flaunt etc. etc. This is grimey and horrible.

4- The schools can truly know what the top offer for a kid is - unlike before when the kids agent (dad, uncle, HS coach, etc) handled the bidding.

5- These kids aren’t getting anymore money than before. It’s just legal now. NOTHING else has changed. Let me repeat that one more time:
NOTHING else has changed. We will still outbid Georgia for Jamal Lewis. We will still outbid Bama for Tee Martin. We will still outbid FSU and UF for Travis Henry. Our ladies basketball team will still outbid UConn. Our ladies golf team will still outbid Georgia - ( hell yes - even this happens - Ex UGA ladies head golf coach gave me some great stories about this).

In Sum - nothing has changed and this is better for all parties involved. Each team can have 85 players on payroll. Same as in 1995.
So can we drop this please?
Thank you.

Well, you make some valid points, however I still think NIL is going to kill college football. Maybe not the sport, but the kids desire, their loyalty, and even their developement. Not to get political, but I see it the same as handouts, free cash, free phones, free rent, free everything. If a person can survive with little effort then they lose the pride, self accomplishment, and desire to basically work hard. I see NIL money (especially the large ones) interfering with a young persons skill progession, and even their desire to go play at a higher level. I know, not every young person will react the same, but if a young athelete comes in a freshman and gets a million dollars NIL contract, where is their priority after that?. Do they still have that internal drive to motivate to get better? Do they still play at 110%, or do they take plays off? Do they play NOT to get hurt? We've already seen the results of sitting out of a bowl game to avoid injury which might hurt their chance at a professional sport. Its human nature to work hard and be driven when you're hungry and have a desire to better yourself. I believe there is enough proof in the world on the negative effects of "giving" instead of earning. Thats my thought. I know many will disagree. I'm still living in a world of "earn what you get", stay loyal, and do your best always. GO VOLS

 

[TNnative]

As long as these kids pay proper taxes on these funds along with the value of their "free" education then I do not care about the premise

With the kind of idiots running Washington nowadays? I don't care if they pay taxes or not.

 

[TNnative]

Why would one have car keys in their ears?

I have worked with people who could not keep their thumbs out of another body cavity. So it seems like a nice change of pace to me.

 

[Delmar]

Wait til one of these"Millionaire"kids end up killing a family in their Porsche or some other wild story u can think of.Youll have all the attention u want and more,giving kids who most haven't had anything half a mill or anything like that is just Ludacris to me.I just think we're gonna have a big situation on our hands and it's gonna take something ridiculous to really bring any attention to it.NCAA really effed this one up from the start.

I think it’s more LiL’ Jon to me. WHATTT!!!

 

[UTK]

The problem is...we have a better bunch of cheap assholes around our program now. We haven't done much outbidding the past decade

 

[Johnnyreb#VFL]

I’ve always been a college first type of guy. I think within the next 1 or 2 I’ll prob be an NFL first guy.

 

[TNnative]

Wait til one of these"Millionaire"kids end up killing a family in their Porsche or some other wild story u can think of.Youll have all the attention u want and more,giving kids who most haven't had anything half a mill or anything like that is just Ludacris to me.I just think we're gonna have a big situation on our hands and it's gonna take something ridiculous to really bring any attention to it.NCAA really effed this one up from the start.

Well, I have said this before, so why not again? It is you idiots calling them "kids" once they are old enough to face criminal charges that are the real reason why they act that way. You are the root cause. So, blame yourselves.

 

[beachvol23]

I don't think that is what anyone is saying or has ever been saying. Most people are smart enough to understand that the institutions are not contributing to NIL deals.

I disagree. I’ve seen several posts but can’t find links at this point, but the way the people were discussing make it sound like if school X has existing enormous endowments that they automatically translate to NIL and that is not the case. People are assuming that mega donors automatically contribute or even care about sports or football: case in point is the UT alum that owns Dish Network and there are probably many more.

 

[DuckInAPen]

I think it’s more LiL’ Jon to me. WHATTT!!!

Not Del the Funky Homosapien or Marky Mark?

 

[DaddyChad]

I don't buy all of "UT doesn't have the $ stuff." We obviously had the dough to secure a lot of top talent. Gray, Chandler, Toto, etc. We bemoaned the fact we lost all this top talent this year. It was said that all the guys that got paid left. So we can now spend that money on the up and up. Nolen said he would be at Tennessee if it were only for the NIL. We've bought great players in the past and we will be able to continue to do so going forward. The sky isn't falling.

Nolen is absolutely FOS though. Tennessee isn’t pushing the NIL as hard as some schools right now. Could be bc of the investigation or just the administration being extra vigilant on being on the up and up.

 

[photovol]

I disagree. Some teams have more money than others. Just like Walter Nolen going to A & M. I’m pretty sure Georgia didn’t want Jamal Lewis, they chose Jasper Sanks, which was a bust. College Football is now the NFL. I don’t think it’s a good thing

Agree!
Sometimes you have to ask yourself, is the NIL the new norm, or just the beginning?

20 years ago, most college football fans would call you crazy, if you suggested what’s happening to College Football today

The times they are a changing, but are they changing for the better or worse?

Your answer………………….?

 

[photovol]

I don't buy all of "UT doesn't have the $ stuff." We obviously had the dough to secure a lot of top talent. Gray, Chandler, Toto, etc. We bemoaned the fact we lost all this top talent this year. It was said that all the guys that got paid left. So we can now spend that money on the up and up. Nolen said he would be at Tennessee if it were only for the NIL. We've bought great players in the past and we will be able to continue to do so going forward. The sky isn't falling.

Tennessee is now under the microscope, unfortunately, because of their own doing!
Idiots indeed

 

[orange_glory]

Why would one have car keys in their ears?

Start their brain

 

[SoddyAllVol]

Let’s hear about the ex uga ladies head golf coach stories and then we’ll talk

 

[ftsandersvol]

Are you seriously wad-shaming my panties?

 

[feathersax]

I find the opening thesis from the OP to be obnoxious and insulting.

Only because the OP is an idiot.

 

[Behr]

Well, I have said this before, so why not again? It is you idiots calling them "kids" once they are old enough to face criminal charges that are the real reason why they act that way. You are the root cause. So, blame yourselves.

Until they're out of School working to pay mortgage, property insurance groceries to live on, electricity, cell phone bills etc, they are kids to me. They're closer age wise and mentality wise to kids than they are adults. In my opinion.

If they're not to you that's okay with me, I mean it's really not worth getting upset over.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

When a College QB makes more than a Starting NFL QB Rookie or 2 year Player QB then we have a Problem and NIL is a Problem

When you cannot regulate Salary Caps for Colleges, then we have a problem

When you don't have a Balance of Power like a Draft based on Level and then we have a problem

NIL has taken the Earning it to Get the Payday. Not sure I suspect Class attendance will Drop.

Handlers/Agents add more fuel to the fire. Expect the bribing of Recruiting Agencies to elevate the Star Status of a HS Athlete for a bigger Payday.

Basically, NIL is a signing bonus based on Recruiting Services that cannot possibly evaluate all the Athletes.

If you cannot buy a team in the NFL you should not be able to Buy a team in the College Ranks.

See Texas A&M. $30 Million Spent.

I am all for paying College Athletes, Teams need Caps and every Player on the Team should benefit. The Problem is that the NCAA has no ability, capability, or authority to control this.

The Transfer Portal will only contribute to this even More. Player A can opt to go into it and teams can also solicit a player through an agent from another team with an enticing raise.

I am all for NIL but it came before any ground rules were established and the NCAA sat on their a$$ and did nothing but watch the door hit them in the face....

It's bad for college football without any adult supervision and will get worse.

We are seeing some of the benefits of NIL and a lot of the problems that it creates. There is no doubt that a number of changes need to be made. The can of worms has been opened and I don't think will ever go away. Let the rule makers gather enough data so that logical and fair changes can be make in the near future.

 

[Majors]

Most visible and marketable player on campus currently is Fulkerson. Not saying football players won’t be there but right now Fulk is our brand player.

Rick Barnes last night : We need John Fulkerson to help us or step aside.

At what point, do those pulling the weight of the team tell the ones making the money and holding them back to step aside. Won’t end well. Our franchise player sat during OT and wasn’t in foul trouble, call it Covid hangover. No excuse for last night, he brings nothing to the team right now in regards to production.

 

[Delmar]

Until they're out of School working to pay mortgage, property insurance groceries to live on, electricity, cell phone bills etc, they are kids to me. They're closer age wise and mentality wise to kids than they are adults. In my opinion.

If they're not to you that's okay with me, I mean it's really not worth getting upset over.

Exactly. Not sure where the poster was coming from with that analysis. Whatever they are “called”doesn’t cause stupid or illegal acts. I believe the absolute abandonment of parental responsibility causes a lot of kids to “act like they do”. Call me old fashioned, I don’t care. I believe kids act exactly according to what their parents allowed while they were growing up. And there is a direct correlation to the amount of attention the parents gave them. When they get to be 18, it’s too late.

 

[DrTNT]

I disagree. Some teams have more money than others. Just like Walter Nolen going to A & M. I’m pretty sure Georgia didn’t want Jamal Lewis, they chose Jasper Sanks, which was a bust. College Football is now the NFL. I don’t think it’s a good thing

I also thought it was well documented Bama either didn’t recruit Tee Martin or they didn’t recruit him as a QB… gonna have to agree to disagree w/ OP I believe NIL needs regulation to maintain legitimate competitiveness.

 

[beachvol23]

Most visible and marketable player on campus currently is Fulkerson. Not saying football players won’t be there but right now Fulk is our brand player.

Rick Barnes last night : We need John Fulkerson to help us or step aside.

At what point, do those pulling the weight of the team tell the ones making the money and holding them back to step aside. Won’t end well. Our franchise player sat during OT and wasn’t in foul trouble, call it Covid hangover. No excuse for last night, he brings nothing to the team right now in regards to production.

This is asinine! The guy is a walking injury and how in the world can anyone expect, even an elite athlete, to be automatically in shape days after ANY respiratory virus. Get real! And Barnes throwing him under the bus again is uncalled for, especially after Fulk got a broken face and his coach did absolutely nothing about it! Barnes should be getting on JJJ, not Fulk! Barnes is on the clock now with is 6m salary! He needs to help his basketball team’s offense or step aside!!!! His gross failure of roster management and recruiting past three years and his entire tenure on post players is unacceptable!
Now on NIL, I can only hope the football staff (admin and coaches) is doing everything they possibly can despite their restrictions because we need defensive players as much as any time in our history ASAP!